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90% of Pokemon Will Be in An Evolution

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Is this thing still true? I remember them mentioning it in the latest CoroCoro scan next to Elekible and Roserade.

So, what do you guys think of this? Some people seem to take this as saying we will only have 10% new Pokemon, when they don't realize it means alot of the Shinou Pokemon will have evolved forms.

Personally, I think this could be cool.
 
Professor Nanakamado says that 90% of the Pokemon in the Pokedex can evolve.

That includes old Pokemon and all the new ones.
 
Assuming there's ~500 Pokémon in DP, that gives ~50 singles.

21 legends from previous generations, plus the 3 confirmed DP legends, plus the inevitable trio brings the number to 27, over 50%

  1. Farfetch'd
  2. Lickitung
  3. Tangela
  4. Kangaskhan
  5. Pinsir
  6. Tauros
  7. Lapras
  8. Ditto
  9. Aerodactyl
  10. Aipom
  11. Yanma
  12. Murkrow
  13. Misdreavus
  14. Unown
  15. Girafarig
  16. Dunsparce
  17. Gligar
  18. Qwilfish
  19. Shuckle
  20. Heracross
  21. Corsola
  22. Delibird
  23. Skarmory
  24. Stantler
  25. Smeargle
  26. Miltank
  27. Nosepass
  28. Sableye
  29. Mawile
  30. Plusle
  31. Minun
  32. Volbeat
  33. Illumise
  34. Torkoal
  35. Spinda
  36. Zangoose
  37. Seviper
  38. Lunatone
  39. Solrock
  40. Castform
  41. Kecleon
  42. Tropius
  43. Chimecho
  44. Absol
  45. Relicanth
  46. Luvdisc

That means that in addition to the 7 already known, there's another 23 at the very least, I'd expect closer to 35 more related to the current singles, which is maybe 25% of the new Pokémon. Also, the ones in bold I'd put good money on remaining singles.

Of course, the fact that existing Pokémon already in lines like Electabuzz are getting evolutions throws the whole thing off, as there's no way to attempt to predict all that.

If any of the above calculations are wrong, I rushed through this, so meh.
 
Don't forget Castform, Spinda, and Kecleon. They're pretty gimmicy, and I don't see them evolving.
 
Castform most likely. I could definantly see a baby Kecleon existing. Not sure about Spinda, although leaning towards it remaining a single.
 
I still think that the whole 90% thing is nothing more than an estimate. An exaggerated estimate at that. It certainly seems like 90% are part of an evo chain, but I did the math myself. It is really 80-something percent. Unfortunately, that was only working with currently available pokemon. If you go purely on the number of pokemon that evolve, the number is a lot less because you have to exclude every last poke that is at the end of every evo chain in existence. There is no telling how many new pokemon they'll make, but they would have to make a vast majority of them have an evo chain in order to achieve this percentage, unless they give a lot of older pokemon a pre-evo/evo. It is possible, but I don't very well see it happening.
 
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Yeah, probably a over estimate.

I do see them however having alot of evolved forms, as we had none last gen.
 
Damn, I hope Skarmory gets an evolution instead of a baby.
 
Skarmory should of got a baby while Mantine got an evolution to try and balance them out a bit more. But since when did Gamefreak care about equality between version counterparts?
 
You know, it's amusing that Kangaskhan has went three gens without a pre-evo. Considering it sits in its pouch all day, you'd think GameFreak would jump at the chance to call that a new Pokemon.
 
Why is everyone including old Pokemon in this? Couldn't he simply mean 90% of the Pokemon in the Shinodex (which we don't know the size of) can evolve?

Let's say that about half of 500 Pokemon are in DP - with the rest requiring a trade over from an earlier game (which shouldn't be too hard, with wifi and breeding, there'll be a whole underground "market" for trading the 250 missing Pokemon online - people without the GBA games won't have to worry too much) - That's 225 evolutions and 25 without. But there's no way of figuring that out, since we're not for certain what Pokemon will be in Shino.
 
It's likely Nanakamado was only referring to the Shino Dex, not the National Dex.

Trying to estimate whether we'll get more evos/pre-evos of existing Pokemon in that case isn't really relevant.

Though I'd be amazed if there wasn't a further one or two considering Gamefreak's love of them this time.
 
Their probably making up for the fact that only 2 Pokemon last gen were related to old ones, which really dissapointed me.
 
Argy said:
Damn, I hope Skarmory gets an evolution instead of a baby.
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I could see a Skarmory evolution easier than a pre-evolution, actually. I actually made one such Pokémon up - a big metal wyvern thing.
 
Their probably making up for the fact that only 2 Pokemon last gen were related to old ones, which really dissapointed me.
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I loved that.
 
I guess you could though say that alot of R/S Pokemon were simply reimaginations of the R/B ones (I don't think so really, though.)
 
Let's see...Hmmmm....
Farfetch'd-Probably not
Lickitung-Possible
Tangela-Neglected, so no.
Kangaskhan-Possible prevo
Pinsir-No.
Tauros-Possible prevo
Lapras-Maybe a prevo.
Ditto-No.
Aerodactyl-No.
Aipom-Very likely
Yanma-Maybe.
Murkrow-Likely
Misdreavus-Meh. Can't be sure.
Unown-No.
Girafarig-No.
Dunsparce-Sadly, no.
Gligar-No.
Qwilfish-No.
Shuckle-No.
Heracross-No.
Corsola-No.
Delibird-No.
Skarmory-Possible prevo
Stantler-No.
Smeargle-No.
Miltank-Possible prevo
Nosepass-No.
Sableye-No.
Mawile-Maybe
Plusle-No.
Minun-No.
Volbeat-No.
Illumise-No.
Torkoal-No.
Spinda-No.
Zangoose-No.
Seviper-No.
Lunatone-No.
Solrock-No.
Castform-No.
Kecleon-No.
Tropius-No.
Chimecho-Possibly
Absol-Who knows?
Relicanth-No.
Luvdisc-No

So we have thirteen that have a bit of a chance.
But if we include those that are like Electabuzz, we get some more possibilities. Also, we're not going to be able to get 500 Pokemon in the games. At max, I think, around 300. This information is good news, because it means we're unlikely to have any gimmick Pokemon. I think all the new loners we're getting have already been released. Perap, Buoysel, Drapion, Pachirisu, and Cherimu could be the only non-evolutionary new Pokemon.
Now we have 4 prevos and 3 evos of old Pokemon. We'll probably get at least one more of each, but the rest will be old, familiar evolutionary chains, and new, unfamiliar chains.
 
I talked about this in the other topic,
I counted 412 total pokemon revealed so far. Assuming the starters evolve 3 times. If there are 27 legendaries, and 46 pokemon that still don't have evolution chains then we know that 73 is too much. That number also doesn't count pokemon that look like they could evolve also but don't: prerap, bouysel, pachirisu, dorapion, cherimu, and korobooshi. That's 6 more, and if lucario is legendary or doesn't evolve then there is 80!

Now we definately know there isn't 800 pokemon, but this only gives space for 88 more pokemon in Daimond and Pearl.

I think its safe to assume that there will be a legendary trio, making 30 legendaries and 83 unevolved monsters. I also have a feeling that there are more legendaries to find and be secret in this game.. maybe 2-3 (if lucario is legendary), but I won't count that.

So, anyways that would mean 52 pokemon can evolve that we know about with, but 50 have to not evolve, leaving us with 48 pokemon spots left. This gives us these options:
*20 more old pokemon don't evlove, and the remaining do.
*48 spots for new line pokemon, and 2 old pokemon evolve.
*or a mix of the two.

This isn't that much, which is why I think they are going to have 550 to 600 monsters total in this game. It gives them more breathing space for creating new monsters that don't evolve, legendaries, and pokemon that do evolve. Even pokemon with evolution chains may evolve again... like I have a feeling scizor might!

As for monsters I want to evolve... Stableye, Farfetch'd, and Aipom.
Other pokemon that I think have evolutions/pre-evos that may come? Pincer, Heracross, Volbeat, Mauvile, Skarmory... I think there is a lot that could go. Its too hard to tell, but I definately think there won't be only 500, that would make things feel rushed.
 
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