A Newbie in the Ring

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So I was reading the rules, and I don't think it said anything about having to have a specific tournament you're entering. So I think this is okay.

Before anyone even looks at my team: Please understand that I have actually never competitively battled. I didn't even have Wi-Fi until I got Platinum. Thus, my team might look like the "uber suxorz" to a pro at competitive battling. So please be polite in your critiquing. I am fully aware that my team has no moves like Dragon Dance, Calm Mind, Stealth Rock, etc. Keep in mind that this was my in-game team and sometimes a team that I would fight against my friends with. I need your help to edit my movesets, held items, etc. If you read this, thank you so much.


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Miles (Heracross) [M] @ Wide Lens
Guts
Adamant (+Atk, -SpAtk)
EVs: 252 Atk // 252 SpDef // 6 Spe
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Reversal
- Megahorn

I'm pretty sure Stone Edge is not the greatest move nor is the Wide Lens the greatest item.

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Rem (Gengar) [M] @ Miracle Seed
Levitate
Mild (+SpAtk, -Def)
EVs: 252 SpAtk // 252 Spe // 6 SpDef
- Shadow Ball
- Dark Pulse
- Energy Ball
- Flamethrower

Don't ask about the Miracle Seed, I can't even remember why it's on him.

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Dreck (Kingdra) [M] @ Mystic Water
Sniper
Sassy (+SpDef, -Spe)
EVs: 252 SpDef // 252 SpAtk // 6 HP
- Dragon Pulse
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Signal Beam

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Duo (Ambipom) [M] @ Leftovers
Technician
Jolly (+Spe, -SpAtk)
EVs: 252 Spe // 252 Atk // 6 Def
- Ice Punch
- Return
- Seed Bomb
- Dig

I dunno. I let my friend borrow him and this is how he came back.

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Kyouhei (Camerupt) [M] @ Charcoal
Solid Rock
Quiet (+SpAtk, -Spe)
EVs: 252 SpAtk // 252 Atk // 6 HP
- Flash Cannon
- Flamethrower
- Earthquake
- Solar Beam

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Gotei (Manectric) [M] @ Magnet
Static
Mild (+SpAtk, -Def)
EVs: 252 SpAtk // 252 Spe // 6 HP
- Signal Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Flamethrower
- Crunch

So as you can see, I'm definitely in need of help. I just don't even know where to begin. I'm willing to take advice, even if it means taking out whole Pokemon.
 
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Hmm

Heracross: Nice set. Maybe a flame orb to activate guts to do more damage

Gengar: Shadow ball and dark pulse on the same set is not a great idea since they hit almost the same things. Replace dark pulse with thunderbolt and let it hold a life orb.

Kingdra: a bad hack ? lol it cant have inner focus ability. The set is nice, maybe a scarf as an item ? or a specs ?

Ambipom: Replace dig with double hit, other wise its fine. Although a life orb would be nice....

Camerupt: No complaints. Although a sunnybeamer would be nice

Manectric: I have never used one so I have no idea
 
Kyouhei is going to get raped. He's slow and has no defense EVs. Solar beam is useless in competitions unless you have sunny day.
 
Kingdra: a bad hack ? lol it cant have inner focus ability. The set is nice, maybe a scarf as an item ? or a specs ?

No, just an idiot who put Inner Focus instead Sniper. What the hell was I looking at? Dragonite XD?

And thanks for the advice so far. Kyouhei does have quite the chance of getting raped by a Surf o_o;. Should have thought of that.
 
I'm pretty sure Stone Edge is not the greatest move nor is the Wide Lens the greatest item.

You'd be surprised. I have a similar set on my Jolly Heracross and she's swept entire OU teams on her own without any assistance. Wide Lens helps with the shaky accuracy of both Megahorn and Stone Edge. With it, they'll almost certainly always hit.

The only thing I'd change is that Reversal. Without a Scarf or Endure...

Have you considered giving it a Swords Dance? A 766 attack stat is nothing to laugh at. And that's only with one SD, imagine if you get a chance to use all three!

If you decide to go with Reversal, I suggest Endure and a Choice Scarf

If you go with the suggested Flame Orb, I suggest Protect to make sure you survive long enough to get burned

My personal recomendation is still Wide Lens+Swords Dance with Megahorn, Stone Edge and Close Combat though
 
That's an awesome idea! I considered SD, but I just didn't want to waste it on Reversal XD! I hadn't considered Close Combat though, it's worth a try though!

I'm thinking that I really need a Pokemon with better SpDef. I might need something that can take hits. Kingdra and Heracross are okay, but should I perhaps consider Mantine, Dusknoir, or Umbreon? My Pokemon all (except Ambi and Hera who have high Atk) have high SpAtk. I think I might be lacking in defensive Pokemon. I don't know. What do you guys think?
 
If Sp. Def is what you're looking for, there is no one better than Blissey. She is the veritable GOD of Sp. Def
 
That's an awesome idea! I considered SD, but I just didn't want to waste it on Reversal XD! I hadn't considered Close Combat though, it's worth a try though!

I'm thinking that I really need a Pokemon with better SpDef. I might need something that can take hits. Kingdra and Heracross are okay, but should I perhaps consider Mantine, Dusknoir, or Umbreon? My Pokemon all (except Ambi and Hera who have high Atk) have high SpAtk. I think I might be lacking in defensive Pokemon. I don't know. What do you guys think?

well the way I think is that if you want to have all sweepers you can. Like my team has no walls and is just attackers and it works reasonably well. So if you want to play with all attackers then go for it.
 
on your heracross drop the eq for close combat and give it a choice scarf and reversal for a night slash. mayb change its evs to 252/spe beacuse a choice heracross with maxed speed is a terror to face.
 
You know, your Camerupt idea isn't entirely bad. Smogon actually has the same EV spread... but it desperately needs a different nature. Brave is good.
 
Camerupt works well....

in Underused and NeverUsed. theres to many things that stop him in OU
 
I've noticed none of your poke'mon set anything up, No toxic spikes or Stealth rocks or Weather effects, Maybe you could concider that? Sp.Attk Kingdra is diffrent might give you a suprising edge :) i like it :p Also Fake out on Duo would be better and use him as a lead.

www.smogon.com, A good site that tells you Typical sets for Poke'mon and good moves and natures + EV's so its worth checking out your poke'mon against that. All tells you counter's to your Poke'mon so you know when your introuble. Worth a check mate. Love the Kingdra.

Also a quick one, Manectric is a nice little poke'mon to use, Fast, nice SP.Attk and its ability can put a spanner in the works, Maybe swap crunch for something though :)
 
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that's an big all-out attacking team. not good. a salamence with two dragon dances and outrage will kill this team. maybe a metagross or something else defensive instead of camerupt would be good (he's not made for sweeping). Maybe also something defensive instead of manectric.
 
that's an big all-out attacking team. not good. a salamence with two dragon dances and outrage will kill this team. maybe a metagross or something else defensive instead of camerupt would be good (he's not made for sweeping). Maybe also something defensive instead of manectric.

grosses are annoying you gotta use like 2-3 earthuakes to finish up...unless u have a sp atk Ev'd Magmortar to clean it up.
 
If that's the case, then a [insert fire berry's name here] would do the trick.
 
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