A thread about change

[The Big Al]

Alright, I've had it up to here with the bitching about Pokemon being recasted. So I'm making thread about change, how we handle change, and basically to get this off my chest.

A few years ago I read the book "Who Moved My Cheese?". It's a great book that teaches about accepting change. I suggest everyone wasting money and paper trying to get PUSA to hire the old VA's should pick up that book and read it.

And the fact is, this is a little change. Let me tell you a real story. This is the story of The Big Al Goes to College. I was scared half out of my mind to leave the home I had lived in for the past eighteen years. I was scared I couldn't handle the school. I was afraid of being around strangers. I would lay awake in bed at night wondering how I would cope. Yet I got use to my dorm room. I completed my first semester with a 3.08 average. And the people around me are nice. I wasted all that energy worrying about something that didn't happen.

Although this was born out of my frustration about the VA uproar, this is to discuss change in general. Bring your stories about change, your worries about change, your advice about change, and basically enjoy change.

 

[Jukain]

I will agree that most of pokemon fans in general are really all bent out of shape about change. Not just about this, but the new pokemon games as well. I don't know if the third gen ever got totally accepted by the fans simply because of the numerous problems the fandom had with it. I found no problems with it and enjoyed it. Now with the fourth gen on the horizon, I see that they're ready to take the axe to pokemon. Only four out of the nine new pokes have been well received. (Lucario, Manyula, Buizeru, and Perappu), and there are even those that make demands that they are so adamant about that if they are not met, then they will ignore the game altogether, just because of that one thing. I will agree with them that I do not want to see really radical changes to the core of the game, but some of the things they are demanding are just going too far. I have seen an almost general consensus that they should not have gone any further than G/S/C. I have been taught to more or less respect other people's opinions, but I really don't think all of this hate was really justified. They might bring back some of the features of G/S/C. They might not. Is that really the end of the world? Of course, there is little if anything known about the fourth gen. I might be wrong about there being little receptiveness to change in this respect, but it just seems like it. Please correct me if I am wrong. Please don't debate with me about my opinions, though, because that is not what this thread is for. I also apologize if this was totally inappropriate for this topic.

 

[The Big Al]

This is the thread about all change and how we react to. So it's alright.

 

[Maverynthia]

I think it's all stupid since it's not fully sure that the VAs WILL change, people quote a pilot episode being made with "new" voice actors. There are many reason pilot episodes are made. The pilot episode of Gargoyles was akin to Gummi Bears more than what it ended up being. I'm not too worried about it really. I think we should wait for the change to happen and then scream over it...as then it's a manifested problem.
However as for life, there are sometimes where you can see the predictable change and NEED to do something about it before.

 

[Nekusagi]

On the other hand, Al, there's no reason why you should meet people's attempts to keep change from happening with utter pessimism. I'm not trying to start a flamewar here, just trying to say it's one thing to accept change blindly and be defeatist, a whole other thing to fight it when it can be fought. In the bigger picture of things, it's like a couple saying "Oh crap. Our marriage is going to hell," and just getting a divorce, as opposed to them saying, "Well, we're having trouble communicating. Let's go to marriage counseling and talk this out." It might be easier for them just to split and live with the consequences for the rest of their lives, but is it the best thing? My freshman year, I fell deeply in love with a guy and obsessed over him. Later into the school year, turns out that he was dating my best friend. It was during the musical that I learned about this, but only by walking in on the two making out. Apparently, the rest of my friends decided that the easiest thing to do was to just keep quiet about it and try to keep me from finding out, but that all went to hell. The result? Three semesters of mutual hatred and a friendship that's still healing now, well into his senior year and my junior year. I spent two whole years of my life feeling unspeakable pain for what had happened, and the scars still haven't healed... Do you see now what taking the easy way out can do? Do you?

::calms down::

...I'm sorry, Al, didn't mean to take all that drama out on you. I was just trying to make a point there, since defeatism generally pisses me off. I've always believed that we create what we think, so no one should ever just accept something as fate and pass it off as necessary change.

I think that's the reason I read Tarot... because people think it can tell the exact future, but in the end, the whole point of doing it is to take control of your future. Any good reader could tell you that.

(sees a lot of drama coming to this thread)

 

[The Big Al]

On the other hand, Al, there's no reason why you should meet people's attempts to keep change from happening with utter pessimism.

You've already tried and convicted people who have yet to prove themselves and you call me a pessimist?

I'm not trying to start a flamewar here, just trying to say it's one thing to accept change blindly and be defeatist, a whole other thing to fight it when it can be fought.

Since when is accepting the fact you can't control change defeatist? If anything, it's a victory over yourself.

In the bigger picture of things, it's like a couple saying "Oh crap. Our marriage is going to hell," and just getting a divorce, as opposed to them saying, "Well, we're having trouble communicating. Let's go to marriage counseling and talk this out."

Actually, you're sounding more like the former scenario. "They won't be the same so I hate just because they are different."

It might be easier for them just to split and live with the consequences for the rest of their lives, but is it the best thing? My freshman year, I fell deeply in love with a guy and obsessed over him. Later into the school year, turns out that he was dating my best friend. It was during the musical that I learned about this, but only by walking in on the two making out. Apparently, the rest of my friends decided that the easiest thing to do was to just keep quiet about it and try to keep me from finding out, but that all went to hell. The result? Three semesters of mutual hatred and a friendship that's still healing now, well into his senior year and my junior year. I spent two whole years of my life feeling unspeakable pain for what had happened, and the scars still haven't healed... Do you see now what taking the easy way out can do? Do you?

But you had control over what could happen. In this current scenario you have no control over what's going to happen. Not mention you don't know the outcome of the current situation. This is more like you getting a little bit of news and chewing out your friend.

...I'm sorry, Al, didn't mean to take all that drama out on you. I was just trying to make a point there, since defeatism generally pisses me off. I've always believed that we create what we think, so no one should ever just accept something as fate and pass it off as necessary change.

Maturity will come to you.
I think that's the reason I read Tarot... because people think it can tell the exact future, but in the end, the whole point of doing it is to take control of your future. Any good reader could tell you that.[/QUOTE]
Oh please. You're pathetic. I'm sorry but I'm going come right out and say it. You're the kind of person who can't stand the thought you're not in control. I on the other hand am willing accept when something is out of my control. Cuase I was once like you and it ended with a lot of wasted energy.

Let me tell you basic story of "Who Moved My Cheese". There are two mice named Skip and Scurry and two mice sized men named Hem and Haw who all lived in a maze. They spent their days traveling the maze to find cheese. Then, one day, a huge pile of cheese appeared and seemed to be replensihed everyday. Hem and Haw got used to the pile and even built a house near the cheese. However, one day the cheese disappeared. Skip and Scurry traveled into the maze to find more cheese. Hem and Haw on the other hand just sat their and complained about their cheese being moved. Right now, you're acting like Hem and Haw and guess what happened to them...they went HUNGRY. Haw eventually left to search for cheese but Hem just sat their. Don't be a Hem.

 

[Joey]

But WHY is the cheese gone!?!?

I think change is good. I may not always LIKE said changes when they first happen, but sometimes it turns out better then before. Take Baseball for an example. The Angels didn't resign Troy Percival, and I was pretty annoyed because he was a great player. But without him, K-Rod has been able to play as our closing pitcher, and he's great. (Other then random incidents of dropping the ball...) Even this season I'm pretty miffed about Bengie Molina not being resigned. But until the season starts, we won't know if we'll have an even better catcher then before.

I try to be optimistic about change. And if it's an inevidable change, for better or worse, I don't worry about it. Because if there's nothing I can do to stop it, then there's no point in making a fuss about it because it will happen anyway.

As far as the pokemon world goes... if the voice actors do change, I won't be throwing a fit. I'll hear what's up with the new voices, and if I don't like em, I'll contently return to watching the Japanese. I'll play the games no matter what they do to em, and if they turn out to not be my preference, then I'll go back to playing the other three gens. I find that unlikely however, since I tend to like whatever newness they come out with in the games.

I am a leaf on the wind...

 

[The Big Al]

The cheese was gone because of forces beyond the control of Hem, Haw, Skip, and Scurry.

I'm not a leaf in the wind but I will give change a chance. And I can accept when I don't have control over the situation. All I ask is that people don't go nuts at the mere wiff of change. At least learn what the change means.

 

[Jukain]

As for the VA thing, I don't think that's a change issue. The people that have been doing the voices for years and don't plan on stopping are being replaced by newbie soundalikes for absolutely no reason at all except for profit. I would understand why they are upset. It's an insult to their talents. I think that's the real issue, but that's just me.

 

[Joey]

Eeerr... You missed my meaning with the cheese line, huh. I was misquoting Pirates of the Caribbean. But why is the rum gone? I meant it as a joke. And now it's no fun cause I had to explain it. Poo

I bet you missed the leaf on the wind reference too!