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Is there anywhere in the Pokémon pages that show what a Pokémon's ability/ies was/were in Generation III if they changed in Generation IV? I don't think there is at the moment, which is a rather large oversight.
 
I don't really understand your question.. Can you explain clearly? DX
 
This should be moved to the Pokémon Games section, i guess.
To answer your question: Serebií has a GenIII Pokédex. This should answer your question if i understand it right.
 
I don't believe there is any page that shows this... but it's not really needed. What do you mean by changed, exactly? Like if they got a new ability in Gen IV?

Aeris, this is a Bulbapedia question. It does not help to direct the user to another site.
 
Example: In Generation III, Eevee has only one ability, but in Generation IV, it has two. This should be noted somewhere on its page, but the only place abilities are listed is on the Pokémon Infobox, which doesn't really have room to add new information. This is needed for the same reason any information on older generations is needed: people still play those games.

I would be happy to work on adding these in once I'm finished with my current project, but I would like to know exactly where people think this data should be placed, as there is no current place for it on the page. Thoughts?
 
Adaptability is a Gen IV ability. It's as simple as checking when the ability was created... unless there is an example of when a Pokemon got an ability that was from Gen III. I can't think of any Pokemon that would occur with though. I will bring this up though with the other staff members.
 
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Could a footnote be added next to Abilities from Gen IV on if they are given to Pokémon that existed before them? On the Pokémon pages, like the Breloom example.
 
I like the footnote idea. Requires little additional room, and since, as Sketch pointed out, no Pokémon seems to have lost an ability yet, all that would be necessary is a "Generation IV only" tag.
 
The thing is, what Sketch said is true. Adaptability didn't even exist in Gen III, therefore, how could Eevee possibly have it? It'd be like if we marked every move introduced in a later generation with "NOTE: THIS POKÉMON COULD NOT LEARN THIS MOVE IN GEN III/II/I".

Same with all other abilities that Pokémon from Gen I/II/III have. They all had only Gen III abilities in Gen III, and in Gen IV, some gained a Gen IV ability. I don't doubt it'll continue like this in Gen V, but the big question is whether they'll move to a three-ability probability or not.

Look, I'd say we'd note it, but that's only if any old Pokémon gained an old ability. None of them did. If that changes in Gen V, giving some old Gen III or Gen IV abilities to Gen I/II/III/IV Pokémon that didn't have them in Gen III or Gen IV, then sure, we'll note it. But considering the only thing that happened was that Gen IV abilities were given to Gen I/II/III Pokémon, it'd be just like noting what Gen II moves were given to Gen I Pokémon, what Gen III moves were given to Gen I/II Pokémon, and what Gen IV moves were given to Gen I/II/III Pokémon.

Even further, it'd be like noting "KIRLIA CANNOT BECOME GALLADE IN RSEFRLG". It's a "well duh" thing, since neither Gallade nor the Dawn Stone existed at the time.
 
I only suggested based on the fact that not everyone may know which abilities first appeared in Gen IV and which ones debuted in Gen III.

It should be common knowledge that abilities started with Gen III.
 
Because when you look at the page for the ability itself it says when the ability was created.
 
Exactly. And you'd be looking at that page if you were researching an ability you wanted for your Pokémon.
 
Couldn't it just be a superscript thing like the move-list of some Pokemon where some moves are only learnt in some games of the Gen (eg Scizor's Bullet Punch has PtHGSS in superscript above it iirc)
 
Dr_Robotnik said:
Couldn't it just be a superscript thing like the move-list of some Pokemon where some moves are only learnt in some games of the Gen (eg Scizor's Bullet Punch has PtHGSS in superscript above it iirc)
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That's the thing, dude.

Our movelists are already by the generation. We don't have to tell you when a move was introduced. That's what the fact that it's a LINK is for.

Like I said. If there's a complex system in Gen V where we get some Gen I/II/III/IV Pokémon gaining abilities they couldn't have in Gen IV but which existed in Gen IV or even in Gen III, I can see noting such. But now, it would be like noting that Charmander couldn't learn Iron Tail in Gen I because the move didn't exist, on a Gen IV moveset.
 
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