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I had a teacher last year who went out of his way to pose his views both societal and otherwise on us, the students.

He brought up such classics as Abortion, and School, but the most annoying thing to have to sit through and listen to was his abstinence verbiage.

He showed us clips of people that "regretted their first time and wished they had waited longer." Naturally, he also came up with an abstinence plan for the school, buts that's something different.

Among his ramblings, he acted like if having sex was the end of the world. He showed an article about a girl who went to Oxford, and of course, she had a purity ring.(so logically, her purity ring melodrama helped her to "keep focused" and got her in to Oxford).

Having sex should not be held in this high of a magnitude, in my opinion.

So what are yalls thoughts on Abstinence or Virginity or First Time Sex?
 
I'm not for preaching abstinence or imposing any sort of views on anyone, though I think teenagers would fare better focusing on their studies instead of being caught up in relationships and having sex. Just an observation from high school.

But I intensely dislike the people who act like having sex is an abomination, or that having sex makes you a "slut/bad person." If you personally believe in waiting until you're married, that's great, but don't act all self-righteous about it.
 
I prefer the teaching of abstinence because there's only one surefire way to keep from contracting an STD or ending up with a premature pregnancy.

What I don't like is the militant atheism that doesn't like the idea of telling kids that "yeah, waiting until you're married to have sex is probably a good idea."
 
Wigglytuff said:
I'm not for preaching abstinence or imposing any sort of views on anyone, though I think teenagers would fare better focusing on their studies instead of being caught up in relationships and having sex. Just an observation from high school.

But I intensely dislike the people who act like having sex is an abomination, or that having sex makes you a "slut/bad person." If you personally believe in waiting until you're married, that's great, but don't act all self-righteous about it.
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Same here. I believe that during a person's school years, abstinence is the best way to go. Mainly because it's more practical. It's much easier to complete highschool when you aren't having to raise a baby.

Also, yes, self-righteous people piss me off.

Arcane Mind said:
What I don't like is the militant atheism that doesn't like the idea of telling kids that "yeah, waiting until you're married to have sex is probably a good idea."
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It's not just atheists dude. I know a LOT of Christians who would prefer to not teach abstinence-only in schools. NOT because they think that kids need to be fucking at every chance they get, but because we have actually seen with our own eyes that teens still have sex, even with abstinence-only education. We wish that there would have been some preventive education instead so that the STD and pregnancy rates at our schools would have been a lot lower.

So yeah, please stop generalizing that preaching that those with differing opinions from yours are not real Christians. It's really getting old.
 
Abstinence won't do any good. Who the hell wants to get married to a virgin? I mean god damn, being with an inexperienced girl, doing nothing kinky at all and cleaning up all the blood on my honeymoon? No thank you, that stupid girl can keep as a virgin for good.
 
As an asexual which is quite interested in sex from a purely intellectual point of view, I noticed that of the few surveys about asexuality we have, it does seem like asexuals are on average less well-educated than sexuals. Just something I was thinking of, I'm not sure if it's relevant to this thread. Of course, not all asexuals abstain from sex.
 
Phantom Ruler Z said:
Abstinence won't do any good. Who the hell wants to get married to a virgin? I mean god damn, being with an inexperienced girl, doing nothing kinky at all and cleaning up all the blood on my honeymoon? No thank you, that stupid girl can keep as a virgin for good.
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You're a real winner, aren't you?
 
Huh, the thread title made me think you were talking about abstaining from alcohol. Well, I got into Oxford, and I'm a teetotal virgin! But I can assure you that most of the other people there probably weren't.
 
I prefer abstinence, as it's a part of my values. And as a person who was born even though her parents had a condom and birth control, it's just best to wait (IMO) when I have a husband and a job to care for my child.

During highschool, they didn't really push either view in health class. We did learn about STDs and how the reproductive system works, but other than that, only 2 kids got pregnant all 4 years I was there.
 
Arcane Mind said:
What I don't like is the militant atheism that doesn't like the idea of telling kids that "yeah, waiting until you're married to have sex is probably a good idea."
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Except:

*It isn't just "militant atheists" who are on that side... for someone seems to enjoy bitching about how the atheists 'judge' the Christians, you are generalizing, yourself...

*Not very many schools teach "yeah, waiting until you're married to have sex is probably a good idea." I know I sat though lessons that did nothing but lambaste any teaching other than abstinence, and attempted to paint anyone who wasn't abstinent as a bad person... and I've heard this same story from friends all over the country.

You have to remember teenagers rebel against authority. Telling them not to do something, without any alternatives, makes teens only want to do it more, because it is "forbidden."

The abstinence-only lessons never worked, and still doesn't, at my high school. We have consistently had one of the highest teen-pregnancy rates in the state.

I'd be fine with the teaching of abstinence if it was standard to also teach alternatives to it.
 
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Arcane Mind said:
What I don't like is the militant atheism that doesn't like the idea of telling kids that "yeah, waiting until you're married to have sex is probably a good idea."
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No, the Atheists you speak of simply know that teens will still have sex even if some teacher says not to and hands out rings. These Atheists know that it would be much better if said teacher told these kids about STDs and how to stop them, because sex will still happen.

By the way, do you have anything to say that isn't everyone's stereotype of the Super-Duper Christian, because I'm starting to just use your posts as quotes against them. Let's hope you don't start shouting about Muslims.
 
You just gotta do it when you're ready. I lost it with my girlfriend of the time, and I don't regret it at all. I was 16. She's a total bitch now, but at that certain time that it happened, and the way she was at that time, I don't regret it for a second.

I WOULD marry a virgin, but it'd suck not having sex with her beforehand. Really, the ideal situation is taking a girl's virginity before marriage, and then YOU marrying her ^^. But that's usually not very realistic.

Also, I'm an atheist.
 
Teachers who impose their views on their kids should be fired. It's completely unprofessional.

Otherwise my sex ed consisted of teaching us how to properly put a condom on a dildo and what all the other various contraceptives were and how effective they were. And that abstinence was the only sure fire way to avoid getting an STD or a kid.

(That dildo was really awkward.)
 
Blah blaah blaaah teen pregnancy blah blaah blaaah regret blah blaah blaaah sexual infections blah blaah blaaah.

I lost my virginity at fourteen, no condom, I was on the pill, I didn't get an STI, I didn't regret it, I didn't get pregnant.

Do you know why? Preparation. My boyfriend and I knew it was going to happen, so we both took STI/STD test, and waited until I was on the pill. We'd been together a fairly long time, and heck we're still together now.

The thing is, most teenagers are in such a rush to have sex that they'll do it with anything of the opposite sex, which is why bad things happen. Why they catch infections, why they get pregnant and it's why they regret it.

This is the reality, teens have underage sex to be "rebellious", and if we stop making underage sex so taboo, they wouldn't be in a rush to have it.

I'm not saying "ALL TEENAGERS SHOULD HAVE SEX YEH". I'm just saying if parents didn't make it so taboo... it might help things.

And it also comes down to the individual I guess, I listened in PSE and I know heck loads about STI/STD's and different forms of birth-control and the laws (oh, hehe, and the loop-holes in the laws) about underage sex, whereas most people in my class were laughing over the word "penis".

And hey? Sex is a good thing, it re-leaves stress, which can be useful if you're someone like me who has problems with dealing with stress, and in my opinion, sometimes, through Secondary School and College (English, here, not American, not sure what the American equivalent it.) a healthy, intimate relationship can be really good for your future, you learn to managed your work with your lovelife and social life, and can make you more prepared for the time after education, no?

But yeah, my opinion/TL:DR = sex is good, not bad, I'm not saying everyone should lose their virginity, but I think parents shouldn't pressure their children to stay a virgin once they reach the age of fourteen/fifteen (most kids in my year lost their virginity at thirteen/fourteen, I was one of the late ones... o_o'). Sex is a good natural way of re-leaving stress, as well.

ch00beh said:
Otherwise my sex ed consisted of teaching us how to properly put a condom on a dildo
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Oh, we got that at my school, and sometimes we did it with these glasses which simulated how you see when you're drunk...
 
Short answer
Just have sex when you and your partner feel ready
dont get pissed and do it with some random guy or girl in a bar or pub
 
Takoto said:
Blah blaah blaaah teen pregnancy blah blaah blaaah regret blah blaah blaaah sexual infections blah blaah blaaah.

I lost my virginity at fourteen, no condom, I was on the pill, I didn't get an STI, I didn't regret it, I didn't get pregnant.

Do you know why? Preparation. My boyfriend and I knew it was going to happen, so we both took STI/STD test, and waited until I was on the pill. We'd been together a fairly long time, and heck we're still together now.

The thing is, most teenagers are in such a rush to have sex that they'll do it with anything of the opposite sex, which is why bad things happen. Why they catch infections, why they get pregnant and it's why they regret it.

This is the reality, teens have underage sex to be "rebellious", and if we stop making underage sex so taboo, they wouldn't be in a rush to have it.

I'm not saying "ALL TEENAGERS SHOULD HAVE SEX YEH". I'm just saying if parents didn't make it so taboo... it might help things.

And it also comes down to the individual I guess, I listened in PSE and I know heck loads about STI/STD's and different forms of birth-control and the laws (oh, hehe, and the loop-holes in the laws) about underage sex, whereas most people in my class were laughing over the word "penis".

And hey? Sex is a good thing, it re-leaves stress, which can be useful if you're someone like me who has problems with dealing with stress, and in my opinion, sometimes, through Secondary School and College (English, here, not American, not sure what the American equivalent it.) a healthy, intimate relationship can be really good for your future, you learn to managed your work with your lovelife and social life, and can make you more prepared for the time after education, no?

But yeah, my opinion/TL:DR = sex is good, not bad, I'm not saying everyone should lose their virginity, but I think parents shouldn't pressure their children to stay a virgin once they reach the age of fourteen/fifteen (most kids in my year lost their virginity at thirteen/fourteen, I was one of the late ones... o_o'). Sex is a good natural way of re-leaving stress, as well.



Oh, we got that at my school, and sometimes we did it with these glasses which simulated how you see when you're drunk...
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Whoa. England ftw? Also loopholes...now that's one were I'm pissed. My friend got sent to Juvie cause he had pics of his girl on his phone. Good ol USA!
 
I think most people in the United States are very dumb with the way they treat sex.

I'm a fan of well-thought-out, harm none, consensual sex whenever desired, and I don't think that's selfish. This is all under the assumption of course that birth control, if necessary, has been discussed or taken care of, risk of STI transmission is taken into account and under control, all parties are of legal age to consent to sex with each other, and that all parties fully consent to the behaviors they are taking part in.

I think regretting having sex with someone is useless. If you don't like it, don't do it again. The only thing I've really regretted about a person I've been sexually involved with is leaving my pillow at his house. I never got it back. :(
 
Arcane Mind said:
I prefer the teaching of abstinence because there's only one surefire way to keep from contracting an STD or ending up with a premature pregnancy.

What I don't like is the militant atheism that doesn't like the idea of telling kids that "yeah, waiting until you're married to have sex is probably a good idea."
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I definitely wouldn't be calling abstinence "sure-fire." For a country that preaches abstinence we have a much higher pregnancy rate than European countries.

Abstinence doesn't work.

This has been proven time and time ago. People who believe in waiting until they are married will do it regardless of a teacher. And other kids are having sex regardless, you cannot try and force a belief like that on them, it only gives them fuel to rebel. But now they are not taught about STDs, contraception, or anything. Some of that stuff seems like common sense, but you'd be surprised.

What I don't like is the militant Christians who believe their beliefs are superior and they should be shoved down everyone's throats. It goes both ways. Stop relating sex education abstinence with atheism, that's just ignorant and couldn't be further from the truth.

I, for one, am not an atheist and promote sex education 100%.
 
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