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This is the official list of Pokémon designs that will be appearing in Pokémon Acanthite.

These are not the finalised designs in all cases and may be refined in future. However, this is for the mostpart a complete representation of Merto's new Pokémon.


EDIT: Removed due to bandwidth issues.




I must make it absolutely clear – it is sometimes a little ambiguous as to who the credited designer ought to be as it may have gone through several design phases, taken inspiration from previous drafts by different people and so on. In most cases I have credited the designer who probably had the most say in the final accepted design. The art was not always done by the credited designer. I have done some of the coloured images such as Pharuff, Geminine, Lagowind and others, as did Cascade Gonpory, and Nelson has done some of the more recent ones that are essentially "official art" such as Glocean, Ablyss and Filamelt. Many sketches were done by Jacob Coutino who has frequently refined a design and improved it, so his pieces are generally the smoother looking ones. Many more sketches are by Acanthite veteran KangasKid. Some art is by Feli, and NeoRyder, etc, etc. Anything credited to RegisteelDS, was drawn by him. This very talented bunch of people has produced this list of Pokémon and in many cases, it is impossible to single out a single designer.

Many thanks to everyone who has contributed to this process, and many thanks to Cipher for helping compile and upload the images.
 
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They aren't bad...but being designed by multiple artists, they don't seem to share that synergy they'd have if made by one person. They look rather hodgepodged all toghether.
 
Having a quick look at some of them I'm very impressed, some don't really seem 'pokemonesque' but the others are great, very good overall.
 
Hmm, perhaps? But not much moreso than any previous generation, as all Pokémon are different. We aimed to replicate traditional Pokémon characteristics throughout the generation :) After refining, the only main difference is the drawing style itself. Where your 'Dex wins is that your drawing style is consistent, so the design style seems more consistent.

Having multiple artists and designers has helped the project go quicker, and in a lot of cases, some of the guys have taken a design by someone else and refined it to improve on parts that perhaps weren't so Pokémonish (Jacob Coutino generally does the final tweaks). It's all in the proportions.

It's taken more than two years for the publication of this list, despite the amount of people on board!

I reckon they really do have a certain synergy (I'll use your word :D) about them when in the sprited form that will appear in Acanthite itself, as the sprites ARE done by one person, so they're more consistent to look at.

Any designs you actually like?


Having a quick look at some of them I'm very impressed, some don't really seem 'pokemonesque' but the others are great, very good overall.

Thanks very much :) Can you tell us which ones need work in your opinion? Then we'll see what we can do ;)
 
I havent seen them all, but, to be honest, what Ive seen hasnt impressed me.

I have seen:

Frondillo: Doesnt really appeal to me. Not "Starter-y".
Kindlejou: *yawn* That is the most plain thing EVER
Reptide: Good name, shame about the pokemon. It looks plain and boring. I wouldnt chose ANY Of the starters. Its RSE all over again
Fulquiem: Not musical at all. UGLY
Gobleaf line: Too human-esque. Not pokemon enough
Picowatt line: Doesnt look like an Electric Pokemon, or, TBH, a Pokemon
Gildeform: Doesnt look like a Pokemon or a Pheasent. What is it?
Monglance line: Dont look like Mongoose's, and arent Pokemon'y
Puppergeist: Doesnt look Ghostly, and not how Id imagine a Poltergeist pokemon
Missingno: A Joke?
Koppiekat: An insult to Meerkats. I love Meerkats, but that isnt worthy
Cygsens Line: Not swanny enough. Also, the final evo looks more like a Middle Evo
Pharuff: Doesnt fit its type
Glocean line: Glocean looks like a Poor Man's Finneon (Which is saying something), and its evo looks pathetic TBH
Disastrell: Name makes it sound like a Absol Evo. Also, it looks rather meh
Bluzzard: *YAWN*
Geminine: Doesnt look anything like a pokemon
 
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Topi, Tophai are Tophade probably my favourites. One thing I did notice is the lack of prevolutions/evolutions of previous generations, aside from Kangaskid.
 
I havent seen them all, but, to be honest, what Ive seen hasnt impressed me.

I have seen:

Frondillo: Doesnt really appeal to me. Not "Starter-y".
Kindlejou: *yawn* That is the most plain thing EVER
Reptide: Good name, shame about the pokemon. It looks plain and boring. I wouldnt chose ANY Of the starters. Its RSE all over again
Fulquiem: Not musical at all. UGLY
Gobleaf line: Too human-esque. Not pokemon enough
Picowatt line: Doesnt look like an Electric Pokemon, or, TBH, a Pokemon
Gildeform: Doesnt look like a Pokemon or a Pheasent. What is it?
Monglance line: Dont look like Mongoose's, and arent Pokemon'y
Puppergeist: Doesnt look Ghostly, and not how Id imagine a Poltergeist pokemon
Missingno: A Joke?
Koppiekat: An insult to Meerkats. I love Meerkats, but that isnt worthy
Cygsens Line: Not swanny enough. Also, the final evo looks more like a Middle Evo
Pharuff: Doesnt fit its type
Glocean line: Glocean looks like a Poor Man's Finneon (Which is saying something), and its evo looks pathetic TBH
Disastrell: Name makes it sound like a Absol Evo. Also, it looks rather meh
Bluzzard: *YAWN*
Timeless: Doesnt look anything like a pokemon

Youch, ok! Fair enough, opinions are opinions. I think that's quite a bit harsher than anything the team expected, especially I feel, on Ablyss, the starters, Picowatt, Bluzzard and poor Koppiekat. However, we'll give it some thought, I'm sure ;)
I do think that sometimes sketches don't do them justice and they appear much better when sprited and in-game they gel nicely with the existing Pokémon.
No, MissingNo. is not a joke. Virus type is introduced in Acanthite - some will like it, some will not. MissingNo. is therefore recognised, and also evolves into a very fast, powerful sweeper with literally 0 defense that looks like a Bird Pokémon.
Gildeforme is based on the species golden pheasant. Makes more sense when in colour.

One note, given the amount of time that Acanthite has been in development, Glocean was unveiled long before that darn Finneon.



Craig, we actually have many evos/pre-evos.

Infanite evolves into Plusle or Minun
Kangaskid is self-explanitory
Absi evolves into Absol

Mawile evolves into Mawtress
Sableye evolves into Gremleye
Qwilfish evolves into Toxiqwil
Kecleon evolves into Gekkomodo
Chansey evolves into Atrosey
Porygon2 evolves into Porygon-X3 (yes, this was again before D/P was around. We've now explained this as a STABLE Porygon release)
Chimecho evolves into Chimenra
 
They aren't bad...but being designed by multiple artists, they don't seem to share that synergy they'd have if made by one person. They look rather hodgepodged all toghether.

What? You want every design to look as retarded as your designs?
http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=21719

Your reply was justified from pure jealousy and spite.

I havent seen them all, but, to be honest, what Ive seen hasnt impressed me.

I have seen:

Frondillo: Doesnt really appeal to me. Not "Starter-y".
Kindlejou: *yawn* That is the most plain thing EVER
Reptide: Good name, shame about the pokemon. It looks plain and boring. I wouldnt chose ANY Of the starters. Its RSE all over again
Fulquiem: Not musical at all. UGLY
Gobleaf line: Too human-esque. Not pokemon enough
Picowatt line: Doesnt look like an Electric Pokemon, or, TBH, a Pokemon
Gildeform: Doesnt look like a Pokemon or a Pheasent. What is it?
Monglance line: Dont look like Mongoose's, and arent Pokemon'y
Puppergeist: Doesnt look Ghostly, and not how Id imagine a Poltergeist pokemon
Missingno: A Joke?
Koppiekat: An insult to Meerkats. I love Meerkats, but that isnt worthy
Cygsens Line: Not swanny enough. Also, the final evo looks more like a Middle Evo
Pharuff: Doesnt fit its type
Glocean line: Glocean looks like a Poor Man's Finneon (Which is saying something), and its evo looks pathetic TBH
Disastrell: Name makes it sound like a Absol Evo. Also, it looks rather meh
Bluzzard: *YAWN*
Timeless: Doesnt look anything like a pokemon

Explain how Frondilo doesn't appear like a starter? It's a grass type. It has the characteristics of a young dilophosaur, which is a dinosaur. IN WHICH, grass starters generally are of dinosaur design influence. SO HA!

Your arguements are weak.
 
The "doesn't look like a Pokemon" is a very iffy subject when it comes to Fakemon...ultimately I don't think anyone but Sugimori and his crew can completely produce the real effect, but some people can come close.

However, the one that sticks out to me the most is...well...this...
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It kinda looks...really un-Pokemonish. Especially the art style used, maybe the sprites (which I'd love to see) would look better.

But most of the ones I looked through (I didn't want to look at too many so I wouldn't be influenced by them in my Fakemon) looked good or great. My other main gripe is some I have trouble understanding what they're supposed to be...but that may just be me.
 
Seen some more

Mistrync: What were you SMOKING?
Infinite: TBH, quite cute
Kangaskid: Same as everyone elses design (Including mine, except mine is called Kangakhub)
Toxiqwil: Doesnt look enough like Qwilfish to warrant an evolution. Unless you were going for the "Octillery aspect"
Gekkomondo, Atrossey, Porygon-X3 and Chimenra: See Mistrync
 
I actually think Mistrync, Porygon X-3, and Cminera are quite neat...if a little odd.
 
Thanks for the comments, Habunake. I'll fully agree with you on Pharuff - it needs work. That's an old, old pic and I think, looking back on it, that the different legs for front and back are especially revolting. It was actually drawn as a piece of art for a fake Pokémon card, thus the art style. Either way, change is due for Pharuff :)

But as that's my only source to show of it at the moment, I've had to show that!


Seen some more

Mistrync: What were you SMOKING?
Infinite: TBH, quite cute
Kangaskid: Same as everyone elses design (Including mine, except mine is called Kangakhub)
Toxiqwil: Doesnt look enough like Qwilfish to warrant an evolution. Unless you were going for the "Octillery aspect"
Gekkomondo, Atrossey, Porygon-X3 and Chimenra: See Mistrync

Kangaskid's kinda a tribute to our lead spriter who goes by that alias.

Toxiqwil is not the only evolution to invoke substantial growth - in this case you make the link through the colour scheme and the fact it's a spiky water/poison fish with QWIL in its name. Fairly obvious that it's an evolution of Qwilfish if you ask me.

I don't see what's wrong with giving Kecleon an evolution to make it a more useful species, nor a "corrupted" alternate evolution for Chansey (gained from evolving it with a Bad Egg). This game was made with the choice between doing good and evil in mind (thus our Dark and Light legendary pairing) and Atrosey is another link to that. Porygon-X3 is meant to be a stable upgrade to Porygon, as there is a character in this game who develops the Porygon series. Chimenra is a means of making Chimecho less useless. I assure you we weren't under the influence of drugs and thought they were actually decent ideas :p But I see you're a tough customer to please ;)

Mistrync... well, some people were bound to object to the introduction of new types and counting MissingNo. as a real Pokémon. There is a virtual extention to the Pokémon world in which these Virus Pokémon are capable of forming (influenced I suppose by banned Pokémon episode Electric Hero Porygon). Mistrync is an advance on MissingNo. as the code becomes more dangerous and unstable. It takes a vaguely bird-like form as a link to the fact MissingNo. was a "Bird" Pokémon. Indeed, Mistrync is unstable as seen from its base stats, packing a whopping 160 base attack and 140 base speed but 0 Defence and cannot take a hit. I see it as a novelty and quite unique but you either like it or you don't.




I'll do something useful then.

#494 Frondilo
MertoDex #001
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New Fern Pokémon
Grass/Poison
Height: 1' 8"
Weight: 14.8 lbs.
Acanthite: The seeds growing on FRONDILO's neck secrete a noxious poison to prevent other Pokémon from eating them, as they're also FRONDILO's nutrient source.
Sylvanite: FRONDILO has to stay in the sunlight constantly to maintain its body temperature. If it fails to receive enough light, its skin changes colour to a dull yellow.

Base stats
HP: 56, ATK: 50, DEF: 68, Sp. ATK: 42, Sp. DEF 56, SPD: 43

Evolves into Jungilo at lv. 16



#495 Jungilo
MertoDex #002
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Frill Pokémon
Grass/Poison
Height: 3' 3"
Weight: 31.2 lbs.
Acanthite: Hangs from tropical trees to snack on their fruit. When doing so, JUNGILO's tail helps camouflage its presence perfectly, resembling the leaf of a palm tree.
Sylvanite: By sharply swinging its tail, JUNGILO uses the keen edges of its tail to cut the skin of opponents. In the process, JUNGILO injects a poison into the blood.

Base stats
HP: 74, ATK: 70, DEF: 85, Sp. ATK: 50, Sp. DEF 74, SPD: 52

Evolves into Dilophrill at lv. 36



#496 Dilophrill
MertoDex #003
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Doublecrest Pokémon
Grass/Poison
Height: 6' 2"
Weight: 150.1 lbs.
Acanthite: DILOPHRILL is able to fell scores of trees instantly with one slash of its long, spiky tail. It will often do so in a bid to hunt down its prey without fail.
Sylvanite: The more sunlight it gathers, the spikier and more venomous its leafy tail grows. The slash wounds from a DILOPHRILL nearly always leave permanent scars.

Base stats
HP: 100, ATK: 94, DEF: 115, Sp. ATK: 60, Sp. DEF 100, SPD: 66
 
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I actually like the look of Geminine, it reminds me of Lucario, and fits the legendary status well. Not sure about including Missingno. in there, but it'd be interesting to see a move pool for it, and actually use it without causing bother.
 
Calling another person's art retarded isn't criticism. It's an insult. Kindly keep your comments directed at the art in this thread, and keep them on the level of helpful criticism.

Thanks muchly.

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Yes it is Shuko, telling how bad their designs are should give the design the instantaneous motivation in making their artwork better and not wonky 'n' crap.
 
this stuff is really amazing and impressive. you worked really hard for a this fake pokedex!! i wish nintendo could look at some of these brilliant ideas.
 
Calling another person's art retarded isn't criticism. It's an insult. Kindly keep your comments directed at the art in this thread, and keep them on the level of helpful criticism.

Thanks muchly.

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Yes it is Shuko, telling how bad their designs are should give the design the instantaneous motivation in making their artwork better and not wonky 'n' crap.

You could just say bad then... retarded's a bit far.
 
Calling another person's art retarded isn't criticism. It's an insult. Kindly keep your comments directed at the art in this thread, and keep them on the level of helpful criticism.

Thanks muchly.

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Yes it is Shuko, telling how bad their designs are should give the design the instantaneous motivation in making their artwork better and not wonky 'n' crap.
An insult without justification is an insult for the sake of being insulting. -_- If you believe something to be bad, you'd better explain WHY it's bad - otherwise don't say anything at all. And besides, you needn't have mentioned it here, because this thread isn't about his art.
 
I was countering what the Jade Pokedex creator said about the Acanthite designs. I wasn't criticising them in here for the sake of criticism. I was pointing out that his designs are inferior to Acanthite's.

You've carried on by blowing this out of context. If you're going to tell me off for defending the designs for Acanthite, then use the PM system myfriend - otherwise you're making this a complicated and petty arguement.
 
But I see you're a tough customer to please

Its not that. I just think, considering the makers of "Acanthite" (Which, BTW, is an awful name) are acting like it IS The next generation, despite being nothing more than a FANDEX, that they need to be amazing, and frankly, they are SUBPAR

Anyways, my opinions on a new lotta FAKEMON:

Terazecker: Is this it? The grand finale of a EXTREMELY Subpar line. *yawn*
Topi Line: I really dislike these. I dunno why, theyre just.... Wrong

Sepirit: Looks like Porygon-Z, which in turn looks like Rayman. Rayman sucks so, Nil Poi to whomever created it

Thundull: Its name suits it. DULL

Katranium: WHY? Why do this to Meerkats? What have they done to you?

Stermit and Escargoo: We already have a sucky Snail line. Why another?

Anjewel: Awww. How Sweet. How Adorable. HOW BORING

Diavil: Had the creator of this recently watched The Black Cauldron. Itd explain A LOT
 
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