American Politics Thread

[Volphied]

Kevin McCarthy is about to get eviscerated by Steve Scalise

 

[zoroarctic]

Kevin McCarthy is about to get eviscerated by Steve Scalise

Right now House GOP is looking at maybe a 7-seat majority. Wouldn’t surprise me if McCarthy is ousted in that case.

 

[Volphied]

Flashback to June.



Dems are on track to exceed all expectations for how the incumbent party fares during midterms.

Oh, and Flores lost her race, lmao. Eat shit, Musk.

 

[Big Lutz]

Flashback to June.



Dems are on track to exceed all expectations for how the incumbent party fares during midterms.

Oh, and Flores lost her race, lmao. Eat shit, Musk.

Sucks that she lost her race her challenger was a pretty nasty person who hired out a racist blogger to attack her.

Blogger with ties to Vicente Gonzalez lobs racist attack at his congressional opponent Mayra Flores

U.S. Rep. Vicente Gonzalez’s campaign has a history with the politics blogger, using more than $1,000 in campaign funds to pay him for advertising services.

www.texastribune.org

 

[Volphied]

Sucks that she lost her race her challenger was a pretty nasty person who hired out a racist blogger to attack her.

MAGA chud lady is right now having a nice meltdown on twitter:


She was a lunatic who fully subscribed to the Qanon conspiracy theory. Good riddance.

Newly elected GOP congresswoman spread Capitol riot conspiracies and QAnon hashtags in now-deleted tweets | CNN Politics

Newly elected Republican Congresswoman Mayra Flores spread conspiracies on social media that the January 6 riot at the US Capitol was caused by members of the far-left group Antifa and repeatedly used a hashtag of the QAnon conspiracy theory in tweets that have since been removed.

edition.cnn.com

Speaking of which, Lutz, what is your opinion on Qanon?

 

[Big Lutz]

MAGA chud lady is right now having a nice meltdown on twitter:


She was a lunatic who fully subscribed to the Qanon conspiracy theory. Good riddance.

Your blue hat is showing, I don’t know enough about her to know if she was Qanon or not, but that does not mean she was deserving of any racist attacks.

Got a proof that she “fully subscribed to Qanon conspiracy theories”?

“Speaking of which, Lutz, what is your opinion on Qanon?”

Conspiracy crap not worth anyone’s time or breath.

 

[Volphied]

Your blue hat is showing,

Hating people who throw around baseless accusations about satanic pedophiles doesn’t make one wear a "blue hat".

I don’t know enough about her to know if she was Qanon or not,

As I said before, you treat politics as some kind of football match, supporting Flores just because she’s on Team Red, and completely ignoring that she’s an unhinged nutjob.

Got a proof that she “fully subscribed to Qanon conspiracy theories”?

In the article I linked in my previous comment which you did not read.

“Speaking of which, Lutz, what is your opinion on Qanon?”

Conspiracy crap not worth anyone’s time or breath.

Tell that to people such as Flores and Boebert, who seem to have based their career on courting the Qanon mob.

Speaking of Boebert:

 

[Big Lutz]

Hating people who throw around baseless accusations of satanic pedophiles doesn’t make one wear a "blue hat".

Not seeing anywhere that she threw around accusations of satanic pedophiles

As I said before, you treat politics as some kind of football match, supporting Flores just because she’s on Team Red, and completely ignoring that she’s an unhinged nutjob.

Pot meet kettle

In the article I linked in my previous comment which you did not read.

If it is the one in the Elon post I do not see it mentioned anywhere. Doing my own research she has done a Q annon hashtag in the past, but has also disavowed the group. The most I could find is a brief mention in a rolling stone article.

 

[zoroarctic]

@Aulos you packing your bags yet?

 

[Volphied]

Not seeing anywhere that she threw around accusations of satanic pedophiles

Oh, so you’re pretending you don’t know what Qanon is about?

If it is the one in the Elon post I do not see it mentioned anywhere.

Oh, you want me to quote from the CNN article you keep ignoring? Alright then.

Before running for office, Flores was a local Republican activist who tweeted under the handle “LaRepublicana86,” where she spread false claims about election fraud and immediately began suggesting on January 6, 2021, that the Capitol riot was caused by Antifa and “infiltrators.”

In one deleted tweet from January 7, 2021, Flores retweeted a claim that DC police had let crowds go to the Capitol and Antifa was among the crowd. “DC police let them through the gates! This was a set up! Antifa is definitely among this crowd!!!,” read the tweet from conservative activist David J. Harris that Flores shared.

In a tweet from January 6, Flores said the Capitol riot “surely was caused by infiltrators.” In another tweet that day, Flores posted images suggesting Capitol rioter Jacob Chansley – more commonly known as the QAnon Shaman – had also attended an Arizona Black Lives Matter rally. Following the Capitol riot, pro-Trump social media users attempted to falsely claim Chansley was a member of Blacks Live Matter and Antifa. The claim was repeatedly debunked.

In at least four other instances on Twitter, Flores shared a hashtag of the QAnon conspiracy theory in April and May 2020. Media Matters previously reported Flores had used several different QAnon slogans on Facebook and Instagram, including in at least one pro-Trump ad that ran on Facebook.

Doing my own research she has done a Q annon hashtag in the past, but has also disavowed the group.

By "disavowed" you means she falsely claimed to have never supported it, despite all her previous twitter posts (and even using Qanon slogans for her political ads). All she did was to prove that she’s willing to brazenly lie and obfuscate in order to climb up the political ladder.

Did you like Flores because she shared your refusal to accept that Biden won the 2020 election?

 

[Aulos]

@Aulos you packing your bags yet?

What, to Michigan?

It's a swing state and that makes it unreliable. I will say that I have considered MI or PA to move to, but I'm not sure. The one thing about being a swing state is that it would be neat to feel like my vote counts... Here in Oklahoma it sure as heck doesn't. SMH. I just worry about the delicacy of human rights in these states and how easy it would be for them to go away with one bad election.

Michigan voted for Trump in 2016 and that is simply unforgivable. I have a soft spot for the state, though, as I have some personal ties to it and the climate is great. lol

 

[Volphied]

What, to Michigan?

It's a swing state and that makes it unreliable. I will say that I have considered MI or PA to move to, but I'm not sure. The one thing about being a swing state is that it would be neat to feel like my vote counts... Here in Oklahoma it sure as heck doesn't. SMH. I just worry about the delicacy of human rights in these states and how easy it would be for them to go away with one bad election.

Michigan voted for Trump in 2016 and that is simply unforgivable. I have a soft spot for the state, though, as I have some personal ties to it and the climate is great. lol

If Michigan voted for Dems during a frigging midterm election when GOP was the favorite to win, then it is perhaps time to forgive the state for 2016.

And yes, having your vote actually count due to living in a swing state is a very good feeling.

Plus, MAGA chuds now hate Michigan due to Prop 3 passing.

 

[Big Lutz]

Oh, so you’re pretending you don’t know what Qanon is about?

Oh, you want me to quote from the CNN article you keep ignoring? Alright then.

Before running for office, Flores was a local Republican activist who tweeted under the handle “LaRepublicana86,” where she spread false claims about election fraud and immediately began suggesting on January 6, 2021, that the Capitol riot was caused by Antifa and “infiltrators.”

In one deleted tweet from January 7, 2021, Flores retweeted a claim that DC police had let crowds go to the Capitol and Antifa was among the crowd. “DC police let them through the gates! This was a set up! Antifa is definitely among this crowd!!!,” read the tweet from conservative activist David J. Harris that Flores shared.

In a tweet from January 6, Flores said the Capitol riot “surely was caused by infiltrators.” In another tweet that day, Flores posted images suggesting Capitol rioter Jacob Chansley – more commonly known as the QAnon Shaman – had also attended an Arizona Black Lives Matter rally. Following the Capitol riot, pro-Trump social media users attempted to falsely claim Chansley was a member of Blacks Live Matter and Antifa. The claim was repeatedly debunked.

I see a lot of fog of war posts that happened when information was spotty, which is common during and after massive events when people are grasping for any sort of news.

I err In at least four other instances on Twitter, Flores shared a hashtag of the QAnon conspiracy theory in April and May 2020. Media Matters previously reported Flores had used several different QAnon slogans on Facebook and Instagram, including in at least one pro-Trump ad that ran on Facebook.

By "disavowed" you means she falsely claimed to have never supported it, despite all her previous twitter posts (and even using Qanon slogans for her political ads). All she did was to prove that she’s willing to brazenly lie and obfuscate in order to climb up the political ladder.

So as I said she used the hashtag a few times, not a good look

Did you like Flores because she shared your refusal to accept that Biden won the 2020 election?

No I like her because she is an immigrant who came to this country, worked extremely hard in a Democratic district and was able to win an election against very long odds. That is a success story!

 

[RileyXY1]

If Michigan voted for Dems during a frigging midterm election when GOP was the favorite to win, then it is perhaps time to forgive the state for 2016.

And yes, having your vote actually count due to living in a swing state is a very good feeling.

Plus, MAGA chuds now hate Michigan due to Prop 3 passing.

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And Michigan might end up eventually turning into a massively blue state. It's already there at this point, especially considering that Democrats gained a trifecta there in a midterm that's supposed to be against them.

 

[Volphied]

I see a lot of fog of war posts that happened when information was spotty, which is common during and after massive events when people are grasping for any sort of news.

So as I said she used the hashtag a few times, not a good look

Flores: "I've boosted Qanon cultists... just lightly..."

No I like her because she is an immigrant who came to this country, worked extremely hard in a Democratic district and was able to win an election against very long odds. That is a success story!

And now she's a failure that will only be remembered for her unhinged comments on Trump's coup attempt and Qanon boosting. Sad!

Lutz, you have to realize that opposing election denying MAGA chuds and Qanon nutjobs doesn't make one a Democrat. Your hat is "I will support the GOP no matter what". My hat is "I wish the GOP was a sane alternative to the Dems". But alas, it seems the GOP will refuse to learn any lessons from this midterm fiasco. Qanon and MAGA are a danger to the civilized world. It's rational to oppose them. If you want to paint rationalism as a Democrat thing, then please proceed.

And Michigan might end up eventually turning into a massively blue state. It's already there at this point, especially considering that Democrats gained a trifecta there in a midterm that's supposed to be against them.

Indeed. Here's a summary of all that just happened in Michigan:

• Enshrined reproductive freedom in the state constitution
• Enshrined the right to vote without harassing conduct in the state constitution
• Enacted 9 mandatory days of early voting
• Enacted permanent no-cause absentee voting
• Required canvassing boards to certify election results based ONLY on the official vote totals
• Required that only election officials (not state leg) may conduct post-election audits
• Required state-funded absentee ballot drop boxes
• Required paid postage for absentee ballots and applications
• Finally added ethics reporting requirements for state office holders
• Reformed some of the term limits
• Flipped the state senate
• Flipped the state house
• Retained governorship by a 10 point margin

 

[Volphied]

MAGA chud and quack doctor is done.

The prophecy was fulfilled.

 

[Big Lutz]

Flores: "I've boosted Qanon cultists... just lightly..."

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She boosted cultist or used a hashtag, which is it?

And now she's a failure that will only be remembered for her unhinged comments on Trump's coup attempt and Qanon boosting. Sad!

She will probably be remembered as the first Mexican immigrant to be elected to the House.

Lutz, you have to realize that opposing election denying MAGA chuds and Qanon nutjobs doesn't make one a Democrat. Your hat is "I will support the GOP no matter what". My hat is "I wish the GOP was a sane alternative to the Dems". But alas, it seems the GOP will refuse to learn any lessons from this midterm fiasco. Qanon and MAGA are a danger to the civilized world. It's rational to oppose them. If you want to paint rationalism as a Democrat thing, then please proceed.

Interesting because all I have seen from your post is a rabid hatred from the GOP, I have not seen you boost or support a GOP figure who you would say is not MAGA or QANON. Furthermore you seem to be so laser focused on the extremism of the GOP but choose to ignore the extremism present in the Democratic Party. Wearing hats and blinders eh?

 

[Volphied]

She boosted cultist or used a hashtag, which is it?

Using cultist hashtags is boosting them. Placing cultist slogans to her political adverts is also boosting them.

She will probably be remembered as the first Mexican immigrant to be elected to the House.

Press X to doubt.

Interesting because all I have seen from your post is a rabid hatred from the GOP

I'll cheer on Republicans who reject Trump and MAGA chuds. Point me towards them.

Besides, according to your definition. Trump is right now doing some rabid hatred of DeSantis?

Trump Threatens to Reveal Unflattering Information About DeSantis if He Runs (Published 2022)

“I know more about him than anybody other than perhaps his wife,” the former president reportedly said.

www.nytimes.com

Tell me what you think about this latest developing GOP schism.

 

[RileyXY1]

Flores: "I've boosted Qanon cultists... just lightly..."

View attachment 165280

And now she's a failure that will only be remembered for her unhinged comments on Trump's coup attempt and Qanon boosting. Sad!

Lutz, you have to realize that opposing election denying MAGA chuds and Qanon nutjobs doesn't make one a Democrat. Your hat is "I will support the GOP no matter what". My hat is "I wish the GOP was a sane alternative to the Dems". But alas, it seems the GOP will refuse to learn any lessons from this midterm fiasco. Qanon and MAGA are a danger to the civilized world. It's rational to oppose them. If you want to paint rationalism as a Democrat thing, then please proceed.

Indeed. Here's a summary of all that just happened in Michigan:

• Enshrined reproductive freedom in the state constitution
• Enshrined the right to vote without harassing conduct in the state constitution
• Enacted 9 mandatory days of early voting
• Enacted permanent no-cause absentee voting
• Required canvassing boards to certify election results based ONLY on the official vote totals
• Required that only election officials (not state leg) may conduct post-election audits
• Required state-funded absentee ballot drop boxes
• Required paid postage for absentee ballots and applications
• Finally added ethics reporting requirements for state office holders
• Reformed some of the term limits
• Flipped the state senate
• Flipped the state house
• Retained governorship by a 10 point margin

It's clear at this point that Michigan's days of being a swing state are over. It's on track to becoming a solidly Democratic state.

 

[Big Lutz]

Using cultist hashtags is boosting them. Placing cultist slogans to her political adverts is also boosting them.

I have yet to seen you show she used QAnon slogans in her political adverts

I'll cheer on Republicans who reject Trump and MAGA chuds. Point me towards them.

You really haven’t followed Republican politics then, you have those like Mitt Romney and Liz Cheney that actively oppose Trump.

Besides, according to your definition. Trump is right now doing some rabid hatred of DeSantis?

Trump Threatens to Reveal Unflattering Information About DeSantis if He Runs (Published 2022)

“I know more about him than anybody other than perhaps his wife,” the former president reportedly said.

www.nytimes.com

Tell me what you think about this latest developing GOP schism.

It’s no different than the nasty stuff said about Ted Cruz and his wife back in 2016.

Primary politics is a blood sport, and Trump plays very dirty.