American Politics Thread

[Volphied]

Oh I do not expect him to be quiet, if he loses more than likely he will campaign for whoever the leader is.

That is extremely wishful thinking. I've already told you that Trump is the world's biggest sore loser and that he cares only about himself and is loyal to no-one. Anyone who still believes that Trump cares about the GOP over himself is either severely uninformed, or deeply in denial.

Similar to Biden not working when he is away from the White House apparently.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/30/politics/biden-white-house-weekends-away-wilmington

... Are you actually reading those articles you're posting? They're presenting Biden in a very sympathetic light, whereas Trump is the one who was addicted to screaming at the TV while obsessively tweeting. So no, it's not "very similar". Biden isn't a pathetic manbaby like Trump.

All Presidents play golf.

Trump played it the most of all presidents. Bad optics.

What does that have to do with Trump or Biden's time off?

Americans: We are concerned about student loans and losing abortion access.
GOP: Who cares, did ya see how lazy Biden is???

So you believe Trump will run as a third party candidate?

So you believe Trump is magnanimous in defeat?

 

[Big Lutz]

That is extremely wishful thinking. I've already told you that Trump is the world's biggest sore loser and that he cares only about himself and is loyal to no-one. Anyone who still believes that Trump cares about the GOP over himself is either severely uninformed, or deeply in denial.

Which would then allude to him remaining silent

... Are you actually reading those articles you're posting? They're presenting Biden in a very sympathetic light, whereas Trump is the one who was addicted to screaming at the TV while obsessively tweeting. So no, it's not "very similar". Biden isn't a pathetic manbaby like Trump.

I am reading the articles. You are right Biden and Trump are different, Trump does have rages, while Biden has what the right wing calls "pudding for brains". Both are cheap attacks.

Trump played it the most of all presidents. Bad optics.

Yes and Biden is at home in Delaware most of all Presidents.

Americans: We are concerned about student loans and losing abortion access.
GOP: Who cares, did ya see how Biden is lazy???

The student loan debt ruled unconstutional by a court today? By the way some of the largest gains this year was in school boards where candidates that ran against CRT won.

So you believe Trump is magnanimous in defeat?

I believe he wont compound his defeat with a foolhardy third party run.

 

[Volphied]

Which would then allude to him remaining silent

That is extremely wishful thinking. I've already told you that Trump is a colossal narcissist and the world's biggest manbaby. He will never remain silent, and will scream and whine about being cheated out of his victory, just as he did when he lost to Biden.

I am reading the articles. You are right Biden and Trump are different, Trump does have rages, while Biden has what the right wing calls "pudding for brains". Both are cheap but true attacks.

This is how pudding for brains looks like.

"Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."

Yes and Biden is at home in Delaware most of all Presidents.

Working from home in Delaware, as those rosy articles you're linking spell out. Which is what made me believe you're only skimming them.

The student loan debt ruled unconstutional by a court today?

Yes, the student loan debt forgivness that polls extremely well among voters. Some dumb judge squashing it is the best gift Dems could hope for, as it will further inflame voters to vote against the GOP.

I believe he wont compound his defeat with a foolhardy third party run.

Trump not being foolhardy? That is incredibly wishful thinking.

 

[Big Lutz]

That is extremely wishful thinking. I've already told you that Trump is a colossal narcissist and the world's biggest manbaby. He will never remain silent, and will scream and whine about being cheated out of his victory, just as he did when he lost to Biden.

And that would mean losing the spotlight, something he craves.

This is how pudding for brains looks like.

"Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."

Do you really want to go quote for quote, Biden with Trump, because it won't end well. Mainly because Biden has 40 plus years of speaking publicly as an idiot. I will save us both time and gladly admit Trump speaks poorly off the cuff, lets agree Biden does the same, and has teleprompter problems.

Working from home in Delaware, as those rosy articles you're linking spell out. Which is what made me believe you're only skimming them.

And are you willing to prove Trump did not work while at Mar A Lago?

Yes, the student loan debt forgivness that polls extremely well among voters. Some dumb judge squashing it is the best gift Dems could hope for, as it will further inflame voters to vote against the GOP.

How would it inflame voters to vote against the GOP when it is the court, not the GOP declaring it unconstitutional? Biden tried a cynical ploy to buy votes knowing it was unconstitutional and knew in the end it would be struck down. This whole thing will be long forgotten by 2024.

Trump not being foolhardy? That is extreme wishful thinking.

Trump purposely running a campaign knowing he will lose is wishful thinking.

 

[zoroarctic]

I can only hope by the next campaign cycle that everyone’s as sick of hearing about Trump as I am.

 

[Volphied]

And that would mean losing the spotlight, something he craves.

Trump declaring war on the GOP after losing to Ron DeSanctimonious will bring incredible media ratings.

Do you really want to go quote for quote, Biden with Trump, because it won't end well. Mainly because Biden has 40 plus years of speaking publicly as an idiot. I will save us both time and gladly admit Trump speaks poorly off the cuff, lets agree Biden does the same, and has teleprompter problems.

Trump managed in 4 years what took Biden 40 years.

And are you willing to prove Trump did not work while at Mar A Lago?

He barely worked in the White House. What makes you think he'd work more when on vacation at Mar-A-Lago?

Trump Could Be Our Laziest President Ever, According to Leaked Schedules

According to the leaked schedules, our president has spent 60% of his “working” hours since the midterms in unstructured "Executive Time."

www.rollingstone.com

How would it inflame voters to vote against the GOP when it is the court, not the GOP declaring it unconstitutional? Biden tried a cynical ploy to buy votes knowing it was unconstitutional and knew in the end it would be struck down. This whole thing will be long forgotten by 2024.

That is staggeringly wishful thinking. If the GOP believes this then they're doomed in 2024

Trump purposely running a campaign knowing he will lose is wishful thinking.

Trump doesn't belive he lost in 2020, and will refuse to believe he could lose to Ron DeSanctimonious. His ego will not allow him to accept defeat.

 

[Big Lutz]

Trump declaring war on the GOP after losing to Ron DeSanctimonious will bring incredible media ratings.

Really? It would burn what is left of his base while losing him the rallies and adulation of the crowd, he would be stuck doing call in spots on Morning Joe.

Trump managed in 4 years what took Biden 40 years.

Sure.

He barely worked in the White House. What makes you think he'd work more when on vacation at Mar-A-Lago?

Trump Could Be Our Laziest President Ever, According to Leaked Schedules

According to the leaked schedules, our president has spent 60% of his “working” hours since the midterms in unstructured "Executive Time."

www.rollingstone.com

So you don't have proof, okay thanks.

That is staggeringly wishful thinking. If the GOP believes this then they're doomed in 2024

We will see, usually small issues that happen right after the midterms are forgotten for the much larger ones a year or so later.

Trump doesn't belive he lost in 2020, and will refuse to believe he could lose to Ron DeSanctimonious. His ego will not allow him to accept defeat.

He accepted defeat numerous times throughout the primary season, you are right though, his ego will not allow him to accept a massive defeat, which is why he would not run on a third party platform.

 

[Volphied]

Really? It would burn what is left of his base while losing him the rallies and adulation of the crowd,

Trump self-immolating while dragging the GOP with him will make for some incredibly entertaining reality TV.

So you don't have proof, okay thanks.

So you didn't read the linked article containing proof. OK.

We will see, usually small issues that happen right after the midterms are forgotten for the much larger ones a year or so later.

Americans being saddled with massive student dept is not a small issue, lmao.

his ego will not allow him to accept a massive defeat, which is why he would not run on a third party platform.

Are you intentionally misreading what I wrote? His ego won't allow him to accept defeat, which is why he'll go scorched earth on the GOP. He can't even accept that he lost to Biden in 2020, despite his continuous screaming about voter fraud depressing the voting turnout from his base.

 

[Big Lutz]

Trump self-immolating while dragging the GOP with him will make for some incredibly entertaining reality TV.

We shall see. First he has to even announce if he is going to run.

Americans being saddled with massive student dept is not a small issue, lmao.

I am curious where does it rank in polling in terms of priorities for Americans?

Are you intentionally misreading what I wrote? His ego won't allow him to accept defeat, which is why he'll go scorched earth on the GOP.

You can believe that, and we are just guessing here, my bet is that he wont compound a loss with an even grander loss, that is not his style.

 

[Volphied]

We shall see. First he has to even announce if he is going to run.

I am curious where does it rank in polling in terms of priorities for Americans?

Majority backs student loan debt relief: poll

The majority of Americans support the Biden administration’s new student debt relief initiative, according to a new The Economist-YouGov poll. The new poll, published Wednesday, found that 51…

thehill.com

my bet is that he wont compound a loss with an even grander loss, that is not his style.

He compounded his 2020 loss by diving head first into election denialism. It's his style.

 

[zoroarctic]

I’m skeptical of the DeSantis hype. He reminds me so much of Bobby Jindal.

 

[Big Lutz]

Majority backs student loan debt relief: poll

The majority of Americans support the Biden administration’s new student debt relief initiative, according to a new The Economist-YouGov poll. The new poll, published Wednesday, found that 51…

thehill.com

Again I ask, where does it rank on the list of priorities for Americans? Also look deeper at the crosstabs.

Eighty percent of Democratic respondents support student loan debt cancellation, while 71 percent of Republicans opposed it. Independents were split, with 44 percent in favor and 42 percent opposed.

44/42 Indie split is not an issue that will "wipe out the GOP"

 

[Volphied]

44/42 Indie split is not an issue that will "wipe out the GOP"

If so many races end up split 50/50, then the GOP can't afford to lose indies 44/42.

Also, scroll up, Trump is getting ready to destroy Ron DeSanctimonious.

 

[Big Lutz]

If so many races end up split 50/50, then the GOP can't afford to lose indies 44/42.

That may be true if the issue itself wasn't a 50/50 split with independents, and the issue was actually very important to Americans.

Also, scroll up, Trump is getting ready to destroy Ron DeSanctimonious.

Lets see when both are actually running. It's boring talking in circles about hypotheticals.

 

[Volphied]

That may be true if the issue itself wasn't a 50/50 split with independents

You're wrong. It's a 44/42 split with independents

Lets see when both are actually running. It's boring talking in circles about hypotheticals.

You can stop, anytime. I'll keep eating popcorn while Trump keeps screaming about Ron DeSanctimonious.

 

[Volphied]

Posting this in full, in case Twitter dies in the meantime.

 

[Volphied]

Apologies for triple post, but the news keep on coming.

 

[zoroarctic]

For some reason, this just popped into my memory out of nowhere. Happy (belated) 2-year anniversary.

The Lieutenant Governor of Pennsylvania...

View: https://twitter.com/JohnFetterman/status/1326311204923576321

Spoiler

He is right; the Cowboys are garbage

 

[zoroarctic]

Forgive the double post, but new results from Nevada.

CC: @RileyXY1

 

[Volphied]

I’m skeptical of the DeSantis hype. He reminds me so much of Bobby Jindal.

Worse than that, he's a colorless spiteful coward without any of Trump's schoolyard bully flamboyance that the MAGA chuds love so much, and doesn't have the utter lack of self-aware thuggery that let Trump browbeat every other Republican into submission back in 2016.