An idea for the end of the series

[LizardKing]

let me briefly describe myself as a viewer. i was in kindergarten when it first started and just about fell in love with it and watched every show and every game ever since.

But i feel as if the past few seasons just werent the same. When the voice change happened. and classic characters were dropped. (thank god brock was brought back) The show has just never had the same charm as it did. and therees always the fact that he never uses his old pokemon he are just laying to waste. so i thought of a good solution to the whole pokemon world!

After this current pokemon season have a big ending where brock and ash go back to kanto. and they get back there in pallet town and such. and then they hear of some tournement or something.(basicly just a reason to go on a journey) so ash leaves all of his new pokemon and takes his old back up through kanto! and in the begining he will finally live up to his promise of coming back to Pidgot and they can come back together. and on the journey they get misty and finally get PRIMEMAPE BACK! (im not sure if butterfree could come back so idk) He could relive the glory days. (also this reason for a journey would have to be big enough to draw gary back from research. and also of course Ritche will come). now you may say im just an pokemon fan wanting the good old days back but this seems like a show that would be VERY VREY POPULAR imo. Plus to keep the fans of todays pokemon happy they could just follow around May though her own journey.

your opinions?

 

[Sleet]

Re: Idea for new series:

It would do horribly. It would be service for old viewers, but as far as the world of TV goes, there are very few of us who watch the show now who also watched it from the beginning. It just sounds like a fan's daydream: entirely unrealistic. Besides, I doubt they could come up with enough good stories. Just because they bring back the old Pokémon and characters doesn't mean they could bring back the old quality.

 

[L-Z]

Re: Idea for new series:

Well, believe it or not, there are actually people who haven't watched Pokémon since it first aired. AND there might be others who feel that the show is better now than it was then.

And besides, one can always watch the old episodes to "relive the glory days". But I'm perfectly happy with the way it is now: bringing new stuff constantly in keeps the show fresh. While others would like it, others would be like "they're running out of ideas, they're using the same Pokémon/characters again".

And Primeape? After it was caught, it was never used until in the episode when Ash leaved it. Maybe he just wanted to get rid of it.

 

[LizardKing]

Re: Idea for new series:

what your all failing to realize is that the orginal show set up a plot with all the loose ends that never got tied up!

 

[Musashi]

Re: Idea for new series:

The writers may eventually wrap some things up whenever the show ends, but there's no reason to do that now.

 

[Lethal Carnivine]

Re: Idea for new series:

That won't work at all. Like someone else put it, it just seems more like a fanfic. And I doubt many people want to see Ash go through Kanto in the middle of the series AGAIN.

 

[Cybersai]

Re: Idea for new series:

what your all failing to realize is that the orginal show set up a plot with all the loose ends that never got tied up!

What are you talking about?

The only loose ends are Ho-oh and Giovanni, which will likely be tied up in the last arc.

The GS ball was an abandoned plot. And how the hell would bringing back old Pokemon like Primeape make a difference? People love the new Pokemon Ash captures.

 

[Trainer Lisa]

Re: Idea for new series:

But i feel as if the past few seasons just werent the same. When the voice change happened. and classic characters were dropped. (thank god brock was brought back) The show has just never had the same charm as it did.

*nods*

I completely agree with you!! Indeed, the Pokemon dub isn't the same as it was before because of the reasons you listed. And it's a shame, because those of us who enjoyed watching the older seasons really appreciate those classic aspects of the show. =(

And besides, one can always watch the old episodes to "relive the glory days".

Yeah, but only if you actually own the DVDs of the older seasons....

I mean, if you don't own official DVDs or have VHS recordings of the episodes, well, then you're kinda screwed. Because CN refuses to air anything from seasons 1 through 8 these days. Which I find to be really weird, because there's no reason why CN can't simultaneously air reruns of D/P, while also airing reruns of say, Advanced Battle or something.

As for the show's plot and the new Pokemon that Ash catches, none of that stuff bothers me, to be honest. However, among other things, I would like to see older characters return to the show more often. That would be nice! ^^

 

[ShadowDeeps]

Re: Idea for new series:

I respect the solo concept behind this talking point of discussion but I don't think that a good way to sate the well wishes of the fans is to end the anime (in all its height) at random with characters and locales of old. It speaks bounds within its own and commands nostalgia but I feel it lacks finality and coherence by comparison to the current arc (Sinnoh). I do appreciate the elder seasons most but I just think it would cause trepidation, especially for the anime to end upon such a way. This is also something that needs to be done with moderation rather than sheer proclivity. Old characters, Pokémon, and locations returning for a few episodes are nice but they shouldn't be overtaking. Every character and Pokémon has their time and generation. They, upon vindication, make their rounds in their seasons with their Pokémon and their goals in regards to such.

I also don't think that suddenly tying up, say, the situation with Ash's Pidgeot would attribute all that much to the show. It'd be great for content as far as emotional beats go and that is my main draw-in when it comes to the show but I don't know what'd that do in the context of story. There's another point I'd like to quarrel as well.... I don't get why it goes to the gall of so many that "plotholes" remain. One could say that an anime that follows a rudimentary RPG (that of a video game genre) format, such as Pokémon, doesn't have the complexity for plotholes so much as plot discrepancies, but if something is untied it just leaves room for further growth by my opinion and I'd rather have a flawed story (to add depth, in a way) than one that's "that" tidy.

There is something I am inclined to agree upon, though, and that's the aforementioned change of the characters, over 2 years ago. To speak further of that matter would be going against the rulings of this board, but I do agree. That change has effectually destroyed the characterizations for me but I won't say anything more on that matter. In summation: I respect the foundation of this thread but I don't see it working well with the anime's current status.

 

[pokemon fan 132]

Re: Idea for new series:

To LizardKing:I completely agree.Not sure about bringing back his older pokemon,but having Ash travell again with Misty and Brock through Kanto(where everything started) seems like a great and ideal way to finish this show.

Many people would like to see original thrio reunited again for at least a season before the very end of pokemon series and giving them one last adventure travelling together.
Not to mention that way Ash could challenge Kanto E4 members,which seems more appropriate for him considering how he is from Kanto region than battling against Sinnoh E4.

What are you talking about?

The only loose ends are Ho-oh and Giovanni, which will likely be tied up in the last arc.

I dont see why are you surprised so much.He makes a good point.

Things which you mentioned arent only loose ends waiting to be tied up.
What about Ashs story and his dream of becoming pokemon master?
What about Brocks story?
What about Mistys story and her dream of becoming water pokemon master along with some other things which were left unresolved(dont tell me you dont know which ones)?
What about that promised battle between Max and Ash?
etc...

There is a lot more things waiting to be resolved than just those two things which you mentioned.About Ho-oh i seriously have no idea why are you so much convinced that there will be some grand finale involving him.

About GS ball plot,that interview with mr.Hidaka pretty much explained everything.

And besides, one can always watch the old episodes to "relive the glory days".

The thing is that many people want to see new episodes with older characters learning more about them,instead of going back to reruns watching same things with which they are more than familiarized with over and over again.

You say that adding new characters in this show keeps things fresh,but that isnt entirely true.Many people are having enough of all this girl changing with every new region doing contests all over again and would rather like that this show is focused more on older characters developing more them and their stories,instead of bringing constantly new ones leaving others behind in dust.

If this trend with bringing new characters continues than the place will very soon become crowded(if anyone understands what i mean with this).

I dont know about others,but to me idea of reuniting original thrio for one last time just like it was during the good old days of pokemon when this show was still young,before the end of pokemon seems like an great idea.

 

[Yoshi-san]

Re: Idea for new series:

My opinion is it really sounds like a REALLY bad fanfic with a excuse plot for older fan service.

 

[PockyAddict]

Re: Idea for new series:

I don't think It will work due to the fact that it just for only a tiny bit of fans. I think that It will only appeal to a bit of the fanbase.

And Loose plots, Those are just things that the writers forgot intentionally in my opinion.

 

[Jesse GS the II]

Re: Idea for new series:

You know, despite what the Internet may have folks believe, the percentage of Pokémon fans who think Kanto was the greatest thing ever is actually quite low. Pitching the idea of a new Pokémon series that returns to the setting of the first season is basically just another way of saying "Everything that I didn't grow up with sucks."

 

[Sleet]

Re: Idea for new series:

There are technically a ton of loose ends, as Ash has pretty much promised to battle/see a lot of people again. I am almost certain Ash will never battle Max, unless they decide to advance time, as Max still looks decently younger than even the 10-year-olds, and they'd need to advance his age in order to truly be able to show him as a trainer.

 

[Cybersai]

Re: Idea for new series:

There are technically a ton of loose ends, as Ash has pretty much promised to battle/see a lot of people again. I am almost certain Ash will never battle Max, unless they decide to advance time, as Max still looks decently younger than even the 10-year-olds, and they'd need to advance his age in order to truly be able to show him as a trainer.

My theory is in the last episode of Pokemon, the writers will do a montage that shows what all of Ash's friends do in the future.

I'm pretty certain we'll see Max get his own Pokemon in that montage and maybe a quick 10 second battle with Ash, and so forth.

Aside from that, I do think these "plot-holes" are mainly fan-invention, since aside from promising to meet filler characters again, there are honestly only a handful of loose ends to tie up from the first series.

 

[GreatLiver]

Re: Idea for new series:

That's kinda what we all thought BF would be... it wasn't.

The writers showed through BF that they really don't care too too much to bring back and show all the old stuff. Did we see Pidgeot or Primeape when we were in kanto again, no. Did we see trainers like AJ, Duplica, The Samurai, or anyone else, no. We didn't even see Gym Leaders. The writers are fine with the direction they're taking the show now, and they're gonna keep going that way opposed to turning around to please the fanbase of older viewers, which is much smaller than the fanbase of young kids who don't even know who Misty is.

 

[Musashi]

Re: Idea for new series:

I wonder if the writers are throwing in all these references to the past and putting Kasumi back in the opening to make up for not doing this stuff in the Battle Frontier?

 

[Cybersai]

Re: Idea for new series:

I wonder if the writers are throwing in all these references to the past and putting Kasumi back in the opening to make up for not doing this stuff in the Battle Frontier?

Misty was in the Battle Frontier openings too.

 

[RJoshua]

Re: Idea for new series:

Misty was in the Battle Frontier openings too.

And she was in the first two episodes of the BF saga. And had a cameo in the form of her lure in one episode. Tracey and Delia were in two BF episodes, and Professor Oak was in around 5. Point is, characters shown in the opening had some episodes during the saga.

Anyone hopeful that they reference Johto a bunch of times in the Platinum Brain saga? After all, we may have GS remakes on the horizon =P

OT: It does sound a bit like personal preference, and a little fanfic-worthy; nostalgic as I am, I'd rather not have that happen. I still want Kanto to be the last region Ash is at though.

 

[Dogasu]

Re: Idea for new series:

What the original poster seems to be forgetting is that the TV series is just a way to promote the new games. And if there aren't any new games set in the Kanto region, why go back there?

The show has always been all about "out with the old, in with the new."

Yeah, but only if you actually own the DVDs of the older seasons....

Which is something that is neither difficult nor expensive to do.

The only seasons that are really difficult to get ahold of are the Johto seasons, and even those can be found online after a little searching.

CN refuses to air anything from seasons 1 through 8 these days. Which I find to be really weird, because there's no reason why CN can't simultaneously air reruns of D/P, while also airing reruns of say, Advanced Battle or something.

CN doesn't air the older seasons because the newer seasons get them better ratings. If the older seasons could bring in the viewers, they'd be airing. Simple as that.

You know, despite what the Internet may have folks believe, the percentage of Pokémon fans who think Kanto was the greatest thing ever is actually quite low. Pitching the idea of a new Pokémon series that returns to the setting of the first season is basically just another way of saying "Everything that I didn't grow up with sucks."

YES.

People need to stop acting as if the show isn't aimed at ten year olds who really couldn't care less about Kanto and Misty and Pidgeot and stuff like that.