Anyone thinking HGSS is hinting to no 3rd gen remake?

[Wigglytuff]

Completely speculating here, but now it seems we are going to get a Jirachi download in addition to Kyogre/Groudon + Rayquaza. Platinum has the whole extra Regi thing, so we're really only missing Lati@s. I mean as far as obtaining Pokemon there would be no real need, but then again that could be said for HGSS as well.

I'm not saying theres no chance, I still think there's a high possibility.

Maybe they just wanted to remake the classic games on the Gameboys? Because if they remake Gen 3 then it is setting a precedent for every gen to be remade. And now that the games all connect and aren't too outdated graphic wise there's not a large need to.

But then again, the games are fairly big sellers for not as much work, and I won't deny I wouldn't mind an updated RSE with new features in some odd years. But at the same time I would like to see the effort put into a brand new game that isn't technically part of the main series but a better spin-off than dungeon, ranger, and all the others.

And total speculation as well, but with the DSi not having a slot for Gameboys and such it also kind of seems like they're moving away from the GBA games, which I guess you could use as evidence both for and against a remake.

What do you guys think?

 

[Falconwing]

Oh, if the series keeps going like it has been those remakes will be out eventually. I can only imagine the graphic updates that we will have ten years from now. I tried to teach my mom how to play pokemon today (she called it boring) and she said the graphics for the GEN 3 games were terrible.

 

[Wigglytuff]

Oh, if the series keeps going like it has been those remakes will be out eventually. I can only imagine the graphic updates that we will have ten years from now. I tried to teach my mom how to play pokemon today (she called it boring) and she said the graphics for the GEN 3 games were terrible.

I see your point there. I mean eventually (not necessarily 5th gen) the games will be very outdated. But that raises the question, where do they draw the line? Does that mean they have to remake the 1st gen again as well? When are they going to leave games in the past instead of remaking them?

 

[Luxio]

and she said the graphics for the GEN 3 games were terrible.

I've noticed that when playing P/D/Pl for a while and then playing S/R/E/FR/LG/etc you realise how big a change the graphics have been.

 

[Wigglytuff]

I've noticed that when playing P/D/Pl for a while and then playing S/R/E/FR/LG/etc you realise how big a change the graphics have been.

When I was playing Emerald on the DS, I immediately noticed how small everything looked. Like the characters and the buildings all just felt so tiny. Though for Gameboy Advance games I wouldn't call them "terrible", and they were a nice upgrade from GSC.

 

[Luxio]

I wouldn't call them "terrible", and they were a nice upgrade from GSC.

Absolutely not, you're right. Plus I agree in the sense that everything looks smaller. But I reckon if you compare the differences between any of the generations you do notice how far it's come.

But anyway I reckon (and slightly hope) we're some way off having 3rd Gen remakes for a while. Admittedly I have liked all the remakes done so far and I think they're nice additions but it is getting repetitive now. It's only playing the game again in better graphics with the added pokemon and minor tweaks. I was kind've hoping to see the good old 'PSNCUREBERRY' and 'PRZCUREBERRY' but no doubt they'll be called Pecha and Cheri. ):

 

[SerenaKetchum]

interesting thread, I tend to agree with the OP. I think Gen3 was recent enough to not warrant a new remake anytime soon...at least not until a new nintendo system comes out.

 

[Zeta]

By the same token, Ho-Oh and Lugia in XD/Col and available via tickets meant there would be no Gen II remake.

Oh wait.

 

[Wigglytuff]

By the same token, Ho-Oh and Lugia in XD/Col and available via tickets meant there would be no Gen II remake.

Oh wait.

But XD and Colosseum are slightly different than the Gamboy games (especially considering sales numbers), and Celebi is still not widely available. Not to mention it's far different to contain 4 legendaries in HGSS (And 3 more in Platinum) than to have a Lugia and Ho-Oh on two seperate games on the Gamecube (apart from the main series) and hav Celebi completely unattainable.

On top of that the biggest factor is that GSC was still stuck on the the original Gameboy color like RBY, unlike RSE which is not only on the GBA but compatible with DPPt.

 

[KedaseDerragar]

I've been saying from the start of this whole thing that a Gen. III remake is astronomically unlikely. It happened to Gen. I because they were the original games, and it happened to Gen. II because they were so well-loved and because all the old games are dying because of Nintendo's lack of foresight with the batteries. In contrast, there's no demand for them to make Gen. III remakes, nor is there any other reason to make them.

Now, for Gen. V or later, we might end up seeing games with new plots that are set in Hoenn or in other old regions, in addition to the main games with the new regions. But any more remakes are very unlikely.

 

[Wigglytuff]

I've been saying from the start of this whole thing that a Gen. III remake is astronomically unlikely. It happened to Gen. I because they were the original games, and it happened to Gen. II because they were so well-loved and because all the old games are dying because of Nintendo's lack of foresight with the batteries. In contrast, there's no demand for them to make Gen. III remakes, nor is there any other reason to make them.

Now, for Gen. V or later, we might end up seeing games with new plots that are set in Hoenn or in other old regions, in addition to the main games with the new regions. But any more remakes are very unlikely.

Yeah, I just think it's a little more than odd they are including so many Gen III legendaries within HGSS. I mean te roaming beasts were in FR/LG, but that's it. Lugia and Ho-Oh were both on seperate games completely that are apart from the main series, and Celebi was not attainble at all apart from things like the JAA.

 

[Orion-Sama]

I've been saying from the start of this whole thing that a Gen. III remake is astronomically unlikely. It happened to Gen. I because they were the original games...

You're overlooking the fact that they moved out of the previous data format, and with RS, they opted for a fresh start, which made almost half of the entire Pokémon pool unavailable in 3rd Gen. In that vein, the best way to both make all the old Pokémon available and get a good chunk of money was releasing the original games all remade and up to par with the new games of the time. Not just because they were the "original games"...

As far as I stand, this seems more like making the 4th Gen less dependant on the 3rd Gen before the big move-out to 5th Gen, since the GBA will be completely obsolete by then, but the DS will still be compatible. Or so I'd like to think. Still, it could then go both ways. Even if the old Pokémon are available through the previous Gen, they'd think that it's a good idea to make them available on the current system as well, and thus, remake 3rd Gen. Or not. We have no idea...

Still, I really would like to see them have a move on and stop rehashing past glories, for the sake of their franchise at least. But I'm not counting on it, sadly.

 

[Mooites]

I dont think its really necessary to remake Hoenn anyway. I hope they dont do remakes next gen, it'll make it go faster.

 

[Falconwing]

Now, if they did games where they revisited regions after the events of the games, like what GSC did, that would work.

 

[Nando]

I think how HGSS turn out will determine whether or not I really hope for Gen 3 remakes. If GameFreak shows that they can bring the old games up to date while adding enough new content - which I do not feel FRLG did satisfactorily - then I would like to see an upgraded Gen 3.

 

[d.aisuke]

I don't see any more "remakes".
I can see a game set in a previous region, but no "remakes".

 

[The Outrage]

You people do realise that all the Johto Pokemon were obtainable without these remakes, even their legendaries.

Just because they are giving a new generation of gamers a chance to capture some Adv. Generation legendaries without having to scour eBay, doesn't mean they don't plan on not having remakes.

Maybe they just wanted to remake the classic games on the Gameboys? Because if they remake Gen 3 then it is setting a precedent for every gen to be remade. And now that the games all connect and aren't too outdated graphic wise there's not a large need to.

Wigglytuff, you seem to act like you think Gen III would be remade for the 4th generation and not later in the future. Perhaps a generation from now, perhaps two....

 

[Wigglytuff]

It's still different. Having all Gen II Pokemon available through many different games is far different than putting 4 Gen III legendaries on remakes of Gen II.

And scour Ebay? We're talking about more than Jirachi here, but that's still a sign considering even Gen I had no traces of Mew.

And there's still the argument that for one, Gen II has been in FAR higher demand than Gen III ever will be. Also, it's considered a classic as its the last of the original Gameboy games, Gen III is more advanced. And if they wait to do it, then comes the argument that since Gen I hasn't had a recent remake it now remains just as outdated as Gen III.

And then it keeps going. Its like, are we going to have a remake of Gen IV then? And if so, what about the equally outdated Gen II? I just don't want it to be a constant cycle. They need to draw the line with remakes. As some people mentioned, if they want to reuse the region thats fine, as I definitely don't want to leave certain regions in the past and have them forgotten, but not the same storylines all over again.

 

[The Outrage]

Scouring eBay for old games not a bonus disc -_-

 

[Trainer-c]

And then it keeps going. Its like, are we going to have a remake of Gen IV then? And if so, what about the equally outdated Gen II? I just don't want it to be a constant cycle. They need to draw the line with remakes. As some people mentioned, if they want to reuse the region thats fine, as I definitely don't want to leave certain regions in the past and have them forgotten, but not the same storylines all over again.

If you really didn't want a cycle, you would have been against remakes of Gen II in the first place.

Gen III will be most likely remade. A precedent has been set.