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Aqua and Magma: What basic laws of physics?

Minty Electronica

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Boredom struck last night, and I wrote the following. Feel free to correct me.



There is, as I've just realized, very little logic to Team Aqua and Team Magma's goals. To put it simply: it violates the laws of physics, doesn't it?

Then again, everything in the Pokémon world kinda does, but still.

Okay, so what am I talking about?

One of the most basic laws of physics is the conservation of matter. That is, no matter can be created or destroyed (with the exception of the original matter, of course) within a given system, e.g. the planet itself. It can only be "recycled," so to speak. That basically means that if you have a glass of water sitting on a counter for a couple of days and the glass is suddenly empty after all of that, then the water had to go somewhere.

Now, why are Aqua and Magma violating the laws of physics? Think of it like this: Magma is trying to destroy matter, while Aqua is trying to create it. (Water is matter, after all.)

To put it simply, take Team Magma. Now, they want to get rid of a good portion of the water on the face of the planet so that the planet becomes mostly land. However, they go about doing this by attempting to create droughts or lava flows. Therein lies a problem, however. It doesn't explain where the water goes.

Now, logic would say that by heating up water, you'll create steam. That means the displaced water goes into the atmosphere. (The lava flow, meanwhile, would at least cover water – if it goes further out into deeper parts of the ocean where evaporating ocean water all the way down to the depths of the sea would be impossible – and at most sink to the depths, resulting in little change over the land-to-water ratio anyway.) Okay, fine. There's just two problems with this:

1. Evaporated water would just precipitate again. In other words, it may not end up in the exact same place, but that water's still going to just come down and cover a nice bit of land Magma tried to free up for the land populations.
2. When considering raising the temperature of the entire planet to an extreme degree (also close to impossible unless we're talking severe global warming – and I mean severe), that would then melt the polar ice caps, resulting in, yes, more water (even if it's an inch off the coastlines and a spot on the north pole). But hey, at least Antarctica becomes free land.

So, yes. Try to get more land, and you'll just get more water. Nice logic there, Maxie.

On the other hand, Archie's attempt would be further whacked for this reason: where is all of the water coming from? Seriously.

Now, there's several possibilities that could explain the presence of more water, some of which are linked to what they've actually done in the games and others they haven't actually tried. For example:

1. Evaporation. Serious evaporation of major bodies of water. Which would then just move the water, rather than put more on the earth. And let's not forget that it'd be taking one step closer to achieving Magma's goals (even for a brief moment), so great going at that, Team Aqua. You've just made your rival team's job easier.
2. Melting the polar ice caps. This, of course, reeks of psychovillain, though if the anime's depiction of Archie is at all reliable, I wouldn't put it past him. Let's just not tell him that all of the melted ice and snow from the polar ice caps would equal a few inches off the coastlines of the world and thus probably wouldn't really matter.
3. Anyone know about Tank Girl? Okay, you know those funky devices W&P uses to draw out water from living organisms? Yeah. Imagine Archie doing that. To half of the human population (and maybe some Pokémon species as well).
4. Water Guns. Lots and lots of Water Guns.
5. Many hours in a laboratory with hydrogen and oxygen. Serious idea here. It's possible to synthesize that simple of a molecule, so it might be possible to create the water needed either in a lab or by using a machine to rape the entire atmosphere of its hydrogen and oxygen. Of course, this means that we may suffocate (depending on how overboard Archie goes), but hey. More water for us, right?
6. Well, this guy named Noah was walking along one day, and he started hearing a voice that told him it'd be flooding…

So, yes. From what I can tell using my basic skills in science, Team Aqua's logic is apparently not Earth logic.

Neither is the rest of the Pokémon world's, I guess, but still.

Thoughts?
 
Aww, that's your answer to everything!

Anyway, my advice is to just remember that everything that doesn't make sense in the Pokémon world is the fault of Missingno.
 
Maybe that's why they needed Groudon and Kyogre. Without the power of a Legendary Pokémon, those pesky laws of physics get in the way. :p

On another note, wouldn't the "Guardian of the Sea" :249: have something to say about Team Magma's plans?
 
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To Magus, you have a point there. You gotta love the Pokegods for making everything so very convenient for Pokemon characters.

As for Lugia, most likely. But we won't tell Maxie that until he gets Aeroblasted in the face.
 
See, this is why I prefer TR over TA and TM. At least Gio's goals are practical. It's the same sort of problem as water gun and other type moves -- where does the water come from? Archie and Maxie suffer from more lack of scientific knowledge than Dr. Fuji did. (At least Gio hired scientists)

The only reason Lugia and maybe every other legend may not deal with the problem is if the Teams' machinations only affect Hoenn, not the whole world. So far only LIII managed to threaten worldwide devastation, even Mewtwo only made a local storm. I don't think the Hoenn teams' plans would even be feasible on anything but a local or regional scale.
 
I never really considered pokemon to make water other than Kyogre. But that is just me.

Yeah, I never really thought of that. Clever.
 
It is also possible that the Pokemon world doesn't share the same laws of physics that our world has.
 
RE: Shadow_Shedinja and Another Fan
Thanks. ^_^

RE: Masato
While that may be true (and has been proven several times -- Team Rocket's blast offs, anyone?), it's still hard to look at it without wondering how it could be possible according to the laws of our world. And if the Pokemon world isn't governed by our laws of physics, then what laws are applied there?

Mmm. I smell another topic coming on.
 
There is no law of physics. As we saw in the first Mossdeep City episode, even gravity can be turned off at will. So being able to breath (and talk) underwater for long lengths of time or run at a speed that should be impossible is easy.

I wouldn't put it past Magma and Aqua to not have considered things, though. Especially after their endings in Ruby and Sapphire.
 
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