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Are coordinators just as strong as trainers?

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We've seen very strong coordinators in the anime using excellent battle strategies. We've seen guys like Robert, who are seemingly experts at Pokemon battling.

The question has come up in the anime itself, with the writers saying that coordinators could hold their own against regular trainers.

But do you think one is stronger than the other? Can trainers beat coordinators since it's all about battling? Or since coordinators have to work skillfully with their Pokemon and use special battle techniques, are they just as good or stronger than regular trainers?
 
I would say that coordinators are just as good as regular trainers. Remember that not all Gym leaders use battling as a means of getting a badge in their Gyms (Danny from Navel Island comes to mind).
 
In my opinion, serious matches would be more fast-paced and not waste any time showing off technique, to more accurately and damagingly execute those techniques. It's true that the anime shows a lot of strategy in the coordination, where battles seem much more "Dodge it and counter with Razor Leaf!" or whatever, but I think that's just laziness on the part of the anime; coordination is a way the anime can show off the potential of Pokemon, and they wouldn't bother to include all these strategies in regular battles when they don't have time to discuss (using conversation between characters) each one.
 
"Dodge it and counter with Razor Leaf!" or whatever, but I think that's just laziness on the part of the anime
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All anime do that. For instance, in Nartuo, a blood-thirsty assasin will calmly stand and do nothing while Naruto and his friends engage in a long conversation explaining just how they managed to trick him into losing some ground. Something tells me a real assasin, you know - wouldn't do that. :p
 
Zeta, I think you misunderstood--I wasn't commenting on the odd timing of the anime battling, I was commenting on how trainers often seem to use simple little strategies like telling their Pokemon to dodge an attack (rather than something fancy like using Counter or Teleport). (I must be off now or I would check out that article.)
 
I totally agree that coordinators and trainers are two different kinds, and neither is superior or inferior. But is it possible to be both a trainer and coordinator?
 
Rachael said:
I totally agree that coordinators and trainers are two different kinds, and neither is superior or inferior. But is it possible to be both a trainer and coordinator?
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Aren't all coordinators technically trainers anyway? I mean the definition of a trainer isn't someone who challenges Gyms, they're just someone who trains Pokemon.

And as shown in various episodes, coordinators are just as good at regular battling as contest battling.

So...a coordinator is a good trainer, but a good trainer would be a bad coordinator unless they practiced.
 
Actually, based on how the pokemon world treats the term a trainer is a person who trains a pokemon for battle while a coodinator would coodinate a specific tricks a pokemon would do to show off like in a dog show. So, I'd say a trainer won't know what move will the people will enjoy to see but a coodinator won't know what move will destroy his opponent in battle.
 
Don't forget that contest battles can be won by making the opponent faint, so a strong coordinator would need to know what move would destroy his opponent in battle. It is true that most trainers aren't as bothered about putting on a show, but that doesn't make them any less strong.

Marina is a good example of how a coordianator can be a powerful tainer. (She isn't officially a coordinator because she appeared before Hoenn began, but the fact that Jigglypuff's dance lessons help it to dodge Beedrill's attacks shows that style can help in battle.)
 
The contests in the anime aren't like the ones in the games. The games just have the appeals, the contests have full fledged battling afterwards.
 
Then it is just battling in contests. No big deal but that makes it not much of a contest. Unless, it focuses on the actual moves, not the damage they do. Because if in contests you just defeat everything in battle and win then it is not much of a contest.
 
It's both. If a Pokemon actually faints another Pokemon, then they win the contest, just like a regular battle.

But you can also inflict damage and earn points based on the skill of the attack used, etc.

You would have to watch an actual contest episode to understand what I'm talking about fully. Thank god though the contests are actually well written and put the Gym battles to shame in terms of battle scenes.
 
So do some people think that coordinators are superior to regular trainers? (which is kinda the reason why I wrote the essay...)
 
No. I don't. Seeing as they don't battle much unless you believe they do. But since battling is like contesting it is probably not to useful in battling with out caring how the move looks. Still, there is little chance of me finding a contest episode in norway in english. I don't get whats the point if you beat the other pokemon and win why care for points anyway?
 
No offense, but you do need to watch a contest before you can make judgement.

Battles only last five minutes, which usually is not long enough to make the opponent faint. The coordinator with the most remaining points wins, and the opponent will lose more points if you use more style or combos in your attacks.
 
So, it is a contest with two people and they get points like every other contest but with damage as well and you lose points when you opponent gets points?
 
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