Barack Obama gets the Nobel Peace Prize

[H-con]

Well, it's official. Barack Obama gets the coveted Nobel Peace prize.

Read more here. Or here. Or wherever, probably.

What do you think. Do you think he deserves it? Or who do you think should have won?

 

[Nicoleta01]

I don't think he deserves it at all, I would have prefered the Zimbabwean Prime Minister- Tsvangirai for his power-sharing w/the nutjob/President of Zimbabwe or the government of Sri Lanka for ending the Sri Lankan Civil War.

Roosevelt deserved his Peace Prize- He mediated the end to the Russo/Japanese-War. Wilson began the League of Nations. Obama's didn't/hasn't done much in his presidency to merit a Nobel Prize.

 

[immewnity]

Oh my gosh... geesh.

 

[The Big Al]

They said it's because of his stance on reducing the number of nukes in the world.

 

[Big Lutz]

The cut off for nominations was 10 days after the inauguration. In other words, completely undeserving and pathetic. Seriously I doubt even the biggest Obama supporter can say he was seriously deserving of one.

Oh wait, now I know why he won: The plaudit appeared to be a slap at President George W. Bush from a committee that harshly criticized Obama’s predecessor for resorting to largely unilateral military action in the wake of the Sept. 11 terror attacks.

Hey Nobel Committee, can you be any more pathetic?

 

[H-con]

I don't completely agree with this award either. If he got the prize in a couple years when his work had shown to bring peace, then he could receive it. The prize this year was built on good intentions, which, quite frankly, isn't good enough.

 

[Big Lutz]

The prize this year was built on good intentions, which, quite frankly, isn't good enough.

It seems to be the award this year was for him not being McCain or Bush. Which is the very height of childishness.

 

[H-con]

It seems to be the award this year was for him not being McCain or Bush. Which is the very height of childishness.

That might be, although I don't belive the Nobel comity actually looked at Bush. I think they believed that giving Obama this prize would inspire him to work harder for peace. He's after all one of the most influential people on Earth. I don't think that's a wise decision however, as there are more prominent candidates that really would have deserved the prize for their work (not fancy words).

And in Norway, some people are speculating that they just did this to get Obama to Oslo. What a ridiculous idea.

But hey, it's not Obama's fault either.

 

[Big Lutz]

That might be, although I don't belive the Nobel comity actually looked at Bush. I think they believed that giving Obama this prize would inspire him to work harder for peace. He's after all one of the most influential people on Earth. I don't think that's a wise decision however, as there are more prominent candidates that really would have deserved the prize for their work (not fancy words).

Except of course the nominations for the prize happened only 10 days after his inauguration, before he had even started work on any of his objectives. Now what I was trying to say is that because Obama was not Bush or McCain, aka a left wing President coming after a very internationally hated Right Wing President and he defeated a Right Wing contender for the Presidency, the Nobel committee decided to award him the prize. If anything as a final "F You" to Bush.

Or as they are saying on the Today Show this morning:

LAUER: There are no major foreign policy achievements to date … In some ways he wins this for not being George W. Bush.

GREGORY: That’s an inescapable conclusion.

But hey, it's not Obama's fault either.

No no of course not, but I doubt it will help his already faltering image in the US

 

[H-con]

No no of course not, but I doubt it will help his already faltering image in the US

I believe you are right, as getting this prize so early won't help him I think. It does certainly seem a bit odd that he was nominated 10 days after his inauguration (for all we know, he could have been a nominee longer...), so it certainly puts some questions behind the comity's decision, I must admit.

As for him being not Bush, well it's a point, although I can't really say that Bush is getting that award any time soon.

But people like Henry Kissinger have got it. Did he deserve it? Did Yassir Arafat deserve it?

 

[Big Lutz]

As for him being not Bush, well it's a point, although I can't really say that Bush is getting that award any time soon.

Oh of course not, but then again Obama has pretty much continued most if not all of Bush's foreign policies.

But people like Henry Kissinger have got it. Did he deserve it? Did Yassir Arafat deserve it?

Al Gore got it, he certainly did not deserve it.

 

[The Big Al]

Obama's numbers are actually rebounding.

I don't get what the Nobel Committee is thinking either. Yes, Obama has many ideas to help world peace and is dove by American standards, but he hasn't had a chance to act or not act on them. If this was '11 or '12 and what he's saying had turned into what he's done, it would make sense.

I wonder if they just want their photo with Obama.

 

[H-con]

I wonder if they just want their photo with Obama.

I was thinking the same thing.

Actually, if Obama really wants respect, he should turn the prize away, and let them give it to someone that really deserved it. That would be interesting.

It would seem that the prize have lost it's importance.

Al Gore got it, he certainly did not deserve it.

Then what was the official reasoning to why he got it? I can't really remember.

 

[Big Lutz]

Then what was the official reasoning to why he got it? I can't really remember.

His effort on Global Warming, he got it as well as the UN Committee on Climate Change, even though much of his data has turned out to be off or faulty.

Obama's numbers are actually rebounding.

Last time I checked his numbers were pretty stable anywhere between 53 to 49

 

[Netto Azure]

When my teacher told me that right now. I was SERIOUSLY LAUGHING OUT LOUD until my voice is hoarce in front of the class. I'm not sure what to make of it, Al Gore shared it with the IPCC so I have no qualms with that. But I understand the concerns that he should reject it and give it to another person. BUT STILL! IT'S THE EFFIN NOBEL PEACE PRIZE! XDDDDDD

 

[The Big Al]

I wonder the procedure for declining a Nobel prize is.

 

[Big Lutz]

Drudge is reporting that Obama will accept the prize on behalf of Americans and America's values. Of course the easy joke is "Well he has to, because he has nothing else to accept it for"

It's interesting to note that another theory has cropped up: “The Nobel Committee was not rewarding Obama. It was attempting to geld him.” in other words to try to keep him away from tough action on Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iran.

 

[Netto Azure]

Drudge is reporting that Obama will accept the prize on behalf of Americans and America's values. Of course the easy joke is "Well he has to, because he has nothing else to accept it for"

It's interesting to note that another theory has cropped up: “The Nobel Committee was not rewarding Obama. It was attempting to geld him.” in other words to try to keep him away from tough action on Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iran.

In order to push him to take a much more diplomatic stance. The world is crazy like that. @3@

I wonder the procedure for declining a Nobel prize is.

Usual Partisan chatter, surprise surpise. :3

 

[Big Lutz]

In order to push him to take a much more diplomatic stance. The world is crazy like that. @3@

Yeah.. because obviously we need to take a more diplomatic stance with the Taliban and Al Qaida[/sarcasm]

I wonder if this does affect his decision to send in more troops to Afghanistan, because you know he wont want to do be seen increasing troop levels as he accepts a peace prize.

So I guess if that was the Nobel Committee's goal, to soften Obama's stance on Iran's Nukes, on Al Qaida, and on the Taliban. They may have just done that, of course that could cost countless lives and harm several nations. But hey, they don't matter, because you know, one of them is Jewish, and the Jews don't count.

And yes, that last sentence was sarcasm.

 

[Nicoleta01]

What's with the Nobel committee awarding efforts lately? Last I checked results is what matters, not how "hard you tried."