Beating E4 for the first time.

[WilliamPall]

I have not yet beaten the Elite Four and would like to ask for advice on how to handle the battle.

The group of six that I've been battling with just isn't cutting the mustard, so to speak. They are:

57M Murkow
Sucker Punch, Faint Attack, Fly and Defog

57M Torterra
Earthquake, Leafstorm, Leech Seed, and Razor Leaf

57M Empolean
Drill Peck, Whirlpool, BubbleBeam, and Brine

57M Infernape
Close Combat, Flame Wheel, Rock Climb,and Flare Blitz

57F Kricketune
Strength, Cut, Rock Smash, and False Swipe

57F Gyarados
Surf, Waterfall, Hydro Pump, and Hyper Beam

These six are the highest level pokémon that I have. Should I just level them up some more? Should I switch any out for something else? So far, the furthest I've gotten in beaten the elite four was taking down one of Cynthia's pokemon (might've been spiritomb). But I couldn't really go on because the pokémon were out of PP.

Any advice?

 

[Toushiro]

I have not yet beaten the Elite Four and would like to ask for advice on how to handle the battle.

The group of six that I've been battling with just isn't cutting the mustard, so to speak. They are:

57M Murkow
Sucker Punch, Faint Attack, Fly and Defog

57M Torterra
Earthquake, Leafstorm, Leech Seed, and Razor Leaf

57M Empolean
Drill Peck, Whirlpool, BubbleBeam, and Brine

57M Infernape
Close Combat, Flame Wheel, Rock Climb,and Flare Blitz

57F Kricketune
Strength, Cut, Rock Smash, and False Swipe

57F Gyarados
Surf, Waterfall, Hydro Pump, and Hyper Beam

These six are the highest level pokémon that I have. Should I just level them up some more? Should I switch any out for something else? So far, the furthest I've gotten in beaten the elite four was taking down one of Cynthia's pokemon (might've been spiritomb). But I couldn't really go on because the pokémon were out of PP.

Any advice?

Switch Kricketune for something else.

 

[GuitarHero]

I would also advise taking out kriketune for maybe another bug pokemon like heracross. Other than that your team should be plenty good enough to beat the e4.

If your running out of pp, try raising a good amount of leppa berries. They are fairly common and they seem to grow pretty fast. (they restore 10pp i think) If you need money for potions etc.. try fighting the two gentleman/ Rich lady people on the left side of that big mansion with the garden in the back (forget what route it is but its fairly early)

 

[Jukain]

Why are you sending HM slaves in there? Well, they're high leveled, so that should be ok. I'll agree with the person above in that none of the moves that Kricketune has can fight the E4's pokes. I don't know how to help you on PP. Are you sure you thought of type alignments, because I think some of the moves you have can effectively demolish the elites if used right.

 

[WilliamPall]

I don't have any HM slaves . . . this is the core group of six pokémon I've been using for most of the game.

 

[xdisasterpiecex]

I would say pull out Kricketune. He knows the HMs that are virtually useless in battle. Whatever your next runner up is, replace Kricketune with him/her. Maybe you want a Psychic or Ghost Pokemon in there (but that's just me). Personally, I beat the E4 when I was really underlevelled (lvl 40-ish). So you should be A-OK.

 

[WilliamPall]

At this point, I've planted 10 leppa berries in Solaceon town, and am xpsharing my Vespiquen up in level to be comparable to the other five. been thinking that possibly I'll evolve murkrow or replace it (since he's also carrying two HM's) But not sure on that yet.

 

[Luna Tiger]

Any advice?

Plenty.

At this point, you'll really want to think think about hocking your HMs onto other pokemon. ...Except Surf.

Torterra's gonna have EQ, but you may want to rethink its Grass moves. Leaf Storm is its sig, but Wood Hammer (which all you need is a heart scale for, as it's one of those pesky you-don't-know-it's-there-until-you-recall-moves!attacks) better utilizes its Att stat (so replace Razor Leaf with it). Though given W.Hammer's nature, you'd need a health-resorative move. Either keep Leech Seed or give it back Giga Drain over Leech Seed. And you may want to replace Leaf Storm with either Crunch or some other physical TM, if you go with Giga Drain.

Surf on Empoleon instead of Whirlpool. Nix Bubblebeam for...hell, I dunno. Get Ice Beam in there somewhere.

And yeah, you probably will wanna ditch Kricketune. Or give it back X-Scissor and/or Bug Buzz.

...Or not.

What you really lack is a diverse move pool. Not talking competative battle!diverse (that's over my head), but general diverse. I mean, you have two Water-spammers. The E4's diverse like crazy in this game (which you've seen, but it's worse with Cynthia). You'll have to be too, which'll help conserve PP in the long run.

 

[Hubologist]

Any advice?

(I know I'm re-iterating some stuff here, but I have a few things to add.)

As everyone else has mentioned, replacing Kricketune with a stronger team member (i.e., better stats and move set; HM moves are almost all sub-par) will give you an edge when fighting the Elite Four.

Use Leppa Berries, Hyper Potions, and Full Heals in between each fight, so that you go into each battle with fully refreshed team members. This is especially important for the battle with Cynthia. If you need money, the Socialite and Gentleman standing next to each other east of the Pokémon Mansion on Route 212 can be re-challenged with the Vs. Seeker (use the bike to recharge it; the door to the Mansion is exactly fifty steps away from the pair). Using an Amulet Coin or Luck Incense is advised.

If you replace Kricketune and heal up all your Pokémon before fighting Cynthia, and you still lose to her after a couple of attempts, it should only take a couple of hours to go re-challenge some of the harder trainers, and raise all of your Pokémon a few more levels.

For my part, I beat the Elite 4 and Cynthia with VERY underleved Pokémon, and they were just like yours: mundane move sets with lots of HM moves sprinkled here and there. Looking back, I have no idea how I pulled it off, but I can tell you that I used a metric ton of healing items. :lol:

 

[WilliamPall]

Thank you again all for the insight and advice. at this point, I'm waiting on my stock of leppa berries to increase.

I'm fairly good money wise, I make sure I hit the restaurant every day with the amulet coin in tow. The rich boy is ussually in there.

Once I feel I have enough leppa berries, I'll try again. hopefully it'll work.

 

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I have not yet beaten the Elite Four and would like to ask for advice on how to handle the battle.

The group of six that I've been battling with just isn't cutting the mustard, so to speak. They are:

57M Murkow
Sucker Punch, Faint Attack, Fly and Defog

57M Torterra
Earthquake, Leafstorm, Leech Seed, and Razor Leaf

57M Empolean
Drill Peck, Whirlpool, BubbleBeam, and Brine

57M Infernape
Close Combat, Flame Wheel, Rock Climb,and Flare Blitz

57F Kricketune
Strength, Cut, Rock Smash, and False Swipe

57F Gyarados
Surf, Waterfall, Hydro Pump, and Hyper Beam

These six are the highest level pokémon that I have. Should I just level them up some more? Should I switch any out for something else? So far, the furthest I've gotten in beaten the elite four was taking down one of Cynthia's pokemon (might've been spiritomb). But I couldn't really go on because the pokémon were out of PP.

Any advice?

First swap empoleon's whirlpool w/ icebeam
2 get rid of defog for aerial ace
3 get kricketune better bug moves
4 get rapidash instead of monkey boy
5 get rid of gyarados and get palkia or dialg or luxray

I beat it with a lv 53 empoleon, 53 luxray, 51 roselia, 51 gastrodon, 53 palkia, and 53 staraptor
on my second try

 

[Tim Young]

I have not yet beaten the Elite Four and would like to ask for advice on how to handle the battle.

The group of six that I've been battling with just isn't cutting the mustard, so to speak. They are:

57M Murkow
Sucker Punch, Faint Attack, Fly and Defog

57M Torterra
Earthquake, Leafstorm, Leech Seed, and Razor Leaf

57M Empolean
Drill Peck, Whirlpool, BubbleBeam, and Brine

57M Infernape
Close Combat, Flame Wheel, Rock Climb,and Flare Blitz

57F Kricketune
Strength, Cut, Rock Smash, and False Swipe

57F Gyarados
Surf, Waterfall, Hydro Pump, and Hyper Beam

These six are the highest level pokémon that I have. Should I just level them up some more? Should I switch any out for something else? So far, the furthest I've gotten in beaten the elite four was taking down one of Cynthia's pokemon (might've been spiritomb). But I couldn't really go on because the pokémon were out of PP.

Any advice?

Murkrow is fine, but needs to be evolved. It's kind of late now though, might as well save yourself a Dusk Stone and keep it as is.

Give Torterra Woodhammer (Give the Move Relearner a Heart Scale) and Crunch over Leech seed.

Give Empoleon Ice Beam over Bubble Beam.

Replace Infernape's Rock Climb with pretty much anything. I'd suggest Shadow Claw, you lack a Ghost attack.

Vespequien over Kricketune. Luxray would be nice too.

Gyrados needs a lot of work. Hyper Beam is a terrible attack and you don't need three water attacks on him. Relearn Ice Fang, Twister and no idea what else. Strength?
Gyrados has a terrible movepool.

 

[Habunake]

You might wanna teach someone Night Shade for Bronzong. Works wonders. As I don't see anything good against it, especially as I think it know Levitate.

Actually Night Shade, can be pretty useful on Lv. 57 guys.

 

[WilliamPall]

Well, I beat the E4 last night and can now get to Battle Island . . . I got tired of waiting for the vespiqueen to level up and so I just replaced Kricketune and Murkrow with Dialga and Palkia . . . But to be honest, the battles were mainly just rotating Infernape/Empoleon/Torterra in and out. I think I may of started off with Palkia once, and I know I never pulled Dialga out at all . . .

The huge supply of leppa berries definately helped.

Also, one quick rather stupid question, the conversation between Cynthia and Rowan . . . does that mean that Rowan used to be Champion of the Sinnoh League?

 

[Hubologist]

Also, one quick rather stupid question, the conversation between Cynthia and Rowan . . . does that mean that Rowan used to be Champion of the Sinnoh League?

It might... or it could just mean that he's mentored many a Sinnoh League Champion during his long years spent researching and experimenting with Pokémon. It could even be both!

 

[Tim Young]

It might... or it could just mean that he's mentored many a Sinnoh League Champion during his long years spent researching and experimenting with Pokémon. It could even be both!

Didn't Professor Oak used to be Champion?
I don't really follow the anime/movies/any such, but I seem to recall something like that.

 

[WilliamPall]

Didn't Professor Oak used to be Champion?
I don't really follow the anime/movies/any such, but I seem to recall something like that.

I expect that it's likely that Oak was at one point the Champion of the Kanto region (generation 1 area) league, But Sinnoh would be Rowan's home region.