Better teams for the Johto Gym Leaders

[apenpaap]

On my recent playthrough of SoulSilver, I kinda noticed that the Johto Gym Leaders only have 4 generation II pokémon between them. So I figured I'd make a list of how I would have done their teams to make them have more generation II pokémon and to raise the difficulty of some of the easy ones:
I'd give Falkner a Hoothoot and a Noctowl instead of Pidgey and Pidgeotto. I'm kind of tempted to give him the kickass Skarmory he has in Adventures, but as he's the first gym leader it would just be cruel.
I'd give Bugsy a Ledian and Ariados instead of Metapod and Kakuna. While it's interesting to see Metapod and Kakuna not being completely useless for a change, Ledian and Ariados are pretty much completely missing from NPC teams, despite being pretty badass bugs.
I'd replace one of Morty's Haunters for a Misdreavus. He'd have all four Ghost-types like that.
I'd replace Chuck's Poliwrath with a Heracross.
I'd replace Jasmine's Magnetons with a Forretress and a Skarmory.
Whiney, Pryce and Clair's teams are fine.

 

[Falconwing]

Oh good, this topic again.

My, this brings me back.

So, prior to HGSS here's what I though.

Falkner: Hoot Hoot, Pidgeotto
Bugsy: Ledyba, Scyther, Spinerak
Whitney: Teddiursa, Miltank, Clefairy
Morty: Gastly, Haunter, Gengar, Misdreavus
Chuck: actually I had nothing for him. Heracross doesn't fit.
Jasmine: Steelix, Forretress (sp), Magnemite
Pryce is fine
Clair is fine.

 

[Ivysaur]

Falkner: Hoothoot 12, Pidgeotto 14
Bugsy: Ledian 17, Butterfree 17, Scyther 19
Whitney: Clefable 21, Miltank 23
Morty: Haunter 25, Haunter 25, Mismagius 26, Gengar 28
Chuck: Hitmontop 31, Machoke 31, Poliwrath 33
Jasmine: Magenton 35, Skarmory 35, Steelix 37
Pryce: Dewgong 39, Lapras 40, Mamoswine 42
Clair: Dragonair 43, Gyarados 44, Nidoqueen 44, Kingdra 46

 

[Battaman]

God only have one o, Ryuu

Falkner: Natu, Hoothoot, Pigeotto
Bugsy: Spinarak, Ladyba, Schyter
Whitney: Cleffa, Iglybuff, Miltank
Morty: Gastly, Haunter, Gengar, Misdreavaus
Chuck: Tyrouge, Hitmontop, Poliwrath
Jasmine: Magnemite, Magneton, Skarmory, Steelix
Pryce: Dewgon, Lapras, Delibird, Pilloswine
Clair: Gyarados, Dragonair, Pupitar, Kingdra.

 

[PlatinumDude]

I never played G/S/C, but I think I do remember reading up on the Johto gym leaders' Pokemon once Here's what I think:
-Falkner: Hoothoot (level 9), Pidgeotto (level 13)
-Bugsy: Beedrill (level 15), Butterfree (level 15), Scyther (level 17)
-Whitney: Meowth (level 17), Jigglypuff or Clefairy (level 17) Miltank (level 19)
-Morty: Gastly (level 21), Haunter (level 22), Misdreavus (level 22), Gengar (level 25)
-Chuck: Machoke (level 26), Primeape (level 27) Poliwrath (level 29)
-Jasmine: Magnemite (level 30), Magneton (level 32), Steelix (level 35)
-Pryce: Delibird (level 32), Dewgong (level 33), Piloswine (level 35)
-Clair: she's fine as is.

 

[Rakarei]

Falkner: Hoot Hoot, Natu
Bugsy: Ledian, Spinarak, Scyther
Whitney: Tediursa, Clefairy, Miltank
Morty: Gastly, Haunter, Gengar, Misdeveus
Chuck: Hitmontop, Heracross, Poliwrath, Primape
Jasmine: Steelix, Magneton, Fortress
Pryce: Dewgong, Piloswine, Delibird, Sneasel
Claire was fine.

 

[Infinity Mk-II]

Falkner add a Hoot-Hoot.
Bugsy... you will have Ledyba or Spinarak in your team there... but otherwise he could use them. Pinsir or even Heracross could work, but they would overshadow the awesome of Scyther.
Whitney is deadly enough with that cow, but give her another pokemon before it... I just don't know which.
Morty is fine.
Chuck is fine.
Jasmine I am thinking replacing Magnemite with a single Skarmory, but that could make her too strong.
Pryce is fine.
Clair is fine too.

 

[Ferbgor]

Falkner: Hoothoot, Natu, Pidgeotto
Bugsy: Scyther, Ledyba, Spinarak
Whitney: Aipom, Clefairy, Miltank
Morty: Gastly, Haunter, Gengar, Misdreavus
Chuck: Primeape, Poliwrath, Heracross
Jasmine: Forretress, Magneton, Steelix
Pryce: Dewgong, Piloswine, Sneasel
Clair is fine

 

[Like_Fahrenheit]

Falkner: Hoothoot instead of pidgey, and natu
Bugsy: Ledyba & spinarak (or Pineco) instead of Metapod & Kakuna. Scyther works fine b/c it evolves into Scizor.
Whitney: add a snubbul or girafarig or teddiursa
Morty: replace haunter with Misdreavus
Jasmine: replace one mag. w/ skarmory, evolve other mag.
Chuck: replace Primeape with hitmontop, add heracross
Pryce: replace seel w/ Delibird, and add Jynx
Claire: no change


Also, Will needed to get Slowking instead.

 

[wundrwhat]

Falkner: add hoothoot and natu, take pidgey
Bugsy: add spinarak and pineco, take metapod and kakuna off
Whitney: add togepi
Morty: take a haunter, add misdreavious
Jasmine: take a magnemite, add skarmory
Chuck: add hitmontop
Pryce: add Sneasle
Claire: ummm... not much to add.... take a dragonair and add gyrados

 

[GiraFragMich]

I just restartet HG and the teams of the gym leaders are really awful... So few native Pokemon and most leaders could've been in Kanto with these rosters. Also - with a few exceptions - the teams are really uninteresting and not very powerful. I had much more trouble beating the Kanto leaders in Blue or LeafGreen.

This would've been better IMO

Falkner: HootHoot-12, Pidgeotto-14
Bugsy: Spinarak-16, Ledyba-16, Scyther-18
Whitney: Aipom-18, Snubbull-18, Miltank-20
Morty: Haunter-23, Misdreavus-24, Gengar-25 (not much choice, I would've prefered our first Dark gym here)
Jasmine: Magneton-30, Forretress-30, Steelix-33
Chuck: Poliwrath-28, Heracross-28, Hitmontop-31
Pryce: Delibird-36, Sneasel-36, Dewgong-37, Piloswine-39
Claire: Dragonair-40, Gyarados41, Dragonair-43, Kingdra-45 (was okay)

 

[sharktooth162]

Falkner: Hoothoot (9) Natu (11) Pidgeotto (13)
Bugsy: Ledyba(15) Heracross (16) Scyther (17)
Whitney: Clefairy(17) Tediursa(18) Miltank(19
Morty:Gastly(21) Haunter(21) Misdreavus(23) Gengar(25)
Chuck: Tyrogue(28) Hitmontop(30) Poliwrath(32)
Jasmine: Magnemite(30) Scizor/Forretress(32) Steelix(35)
Pryce:Swinub(32) Dewgong(34) Piloswine(36)
Clair: Dratini(36) Gyrados (38) Dragonair(38) Kingdra(42

 

[Zervah]

HootHoot or Noctowl
Heracross
Misdreavus
Hitmontop

you guys get what I say? :B