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Birth and Death Rates

Well seeing as death isn't really a subject you bring up in a children's anime/show, I doubt anyone knows.
 
Realistically? It's the same as real-life.

I really really dislike the idea that humans are completely and utterly powerless without Pokémon to protect them. As if People are made of tissue paper or something.

People can fight off Pokémon and are capable of withstanding their attacks. It's just normally not a good idea to fight Pokémon by yourself.
 
PDL said:
Realistically? It's the same as real-life.

I really really dislike the idea that humans are completely and utterly powerless without Pokémon to protect them. As if People are made of tissue paper or something.

People can fight off Pokémon and are capable of withstanding their attacks. It's just normally not a good idea to fight Pokémon by yourself.
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personally, I subscribe to the idea of humans being completely fucked in the presence of Pokemon. Seriously, when some species could be capable of smashing a rock, and they're just a level 1 baby, you know they shouldn't be taken lightly. If the franchise was less cartoony than it's portrayed in the anime and other media, I can guarantee that the results of a human getting breathed on by a giant salamander wouldn't be pretty. Of course, the humans compensate with their technological application of (and apparent immunity to) Apricorns, which is why they're still capable of pretty much running the world. It's no different from real life, really. We have a ton of small animals running around, but come across one of those larger ones.... oh boy. Though, taking poisons and/or diseases into account, even those small critters can be a severe hazard (even within your own area, some mosquito would look a lot more threatening if you body hadn't been injected with various anti-bodies and vaccines over the years).
 
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I'm sure that average world wide birth / death rates are like what they are IRL.

As for deaths at the hands of Pokemon, I'm sure they happen, but not too often. I'm sure kids are taught from a young age to avoid the danger and I'm sure that parents are careful to protect their kids. But at the same time, things happen, just like in real life.
 
Yamato-san said:
personally, I subscribe to the idea of humans being completely fucked in the presence of Pokemon. Seriously, when some species could be capable of smashing a rock, and they're just a level 1 baby, you know they shouldn't be taken lightly. If the franchise was less cartoony than it's portrayed in the anime and other media, I can guarantee that the results of a human getting breathed on by a giant salamander wouldn't be pretty. Of course, the humans compensate with their technological application of (and apparent immunity to) Apricorns, which is why they're still capable of pretty much running the world. It's no different from real life, really. We have a ton of small animals running around, but come across one of those larger ones.... oh boy. Though, taking poisons and/or diseases into account, even those small critters can be a severe hazard (even within your own area, some mosquito would look a lot more threatening if you body hadn't been injected with various anti-bodies and vaccines over the years).
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You're forgetting that aside from some goofy evil teams and a few burglars there aren't really bad people in the pokémon world.

Plus game-wise pokémon can't attack humans unless they're shadow and in hyper mode, so you shouldn't be too afraid of them.
 
Mijzelffan said:
You're forgetting that aside from some goofy evil teams and a few burglars there aren't really bad people in the pokémon world.

Plus game-wise pokémon can't attack humans unless they're shadow and in hyper mode, so you shouldn't be too afraid of them.
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nah, I'd say there's plenty of evil people in the Pokemon world. The anime, games, and some of the manga just choose to ignore most of them. You remember that Bugcatcher you fought on Route 3? He's gotta be a midget serial killer parading around as a child, I just know it.
 
Primal Darkrai said:
What are the birth and death rates of the Pokemon world? (Amongst humans)
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I'm not sure why or how this would be calculated. Even if we did have the stats it would still be irrelevant to Pokemon. Pokemon's main focus is a group of kids going around catching Pokemon, fighting bad guys, rivals and gym leaders, competing in contests, going on missions and etc etc...the birth and death rates have absolutely NOTHING to do with it..even if Pokemon was for the mature audience it would still be irrelevant :/
 
INTERESTING. I like it! Let us contemplate.

BIRTHRATES:
I want to say that birth rates are lower, based on the sole evidence that cities in PWorld, in both the game and anime, exist as pockets of civilization. Urban sprawl is not an issue in the least—meaning housing and population are not issues. Even the largest and most technologically advanced cities have abrupt and definite city limits. Judging by the shots we're seen of B&W, this perspective might have to change, but for now we can just assume that we're seeing slightly more realistic depictions of cities, and that the wilderness remains as sprawling and untamed as ever.
Part of me thinks this is an intentional mindset of the inhabitants of PWorld—people love pokemon so much that ecological conservation is not the sole purview of hippies. It's a slightly idealized world, obviously (free health care, no pedophiles, and an endless stream of money being passed around trainers), so the odds are that people are slightly more idealized in their treatment of the environment, a mentality that even extends to the number of children people decide to have.
Alternatively, if the symbiotic relationship between Peeps and Pokes goes back far enough, then perhaps lowered birthrates are a biological/evolutionary factor—which doesn't entirely make sense, considering that the entire goal of genes is to reproduce—but if the people with fewer kids had a closer relationship with Pokes, and thus prospered, and thus were healthier, then that could be a factor, and nowadays women just don't get pregnant as easily or as often as real women do. Good news for college students, I guess.

Joys and Jennies are sick freaks of nature, and will not be addressed.

DEATH RATES:
From the get go, death rates are, in general, lower in proportion to the smaller population. Other than that, I would say that they exist in a similar ratio to the real world—but it all hinges on the question of whether or not EVERYBODY is a pokemon trainer or not. It's not quite clear. Take trainer classes—are these average Flower Ladies and Hikers in this world, or are they trainers that exhibit these qualities? It's an important question, because they games make in no uncertain terms said that if you walk outside of your town without a Pokemon (or a gun, I guess), your life is in danger. So if PWorld still has regular hikers and regular mountain climbers, then yes, I have to think these people have higher mortality rates than in real life, because dangerous wild animals are just much, much, much more prolific in this world, and despite any evidence of semi-sentience, the biggest, most powerful of them are still willing to attack anything and everything they come across.

Even then, I have to think that there's quite a bit of risk in the trainer lifestyle as well. I mean, how often has Ash almost died? And what evidence, if any, did anyone have that Red hadn't frozen or fallen to death somewhere up on that mountain? Even for this slightly idealized world, trainers going missing must, to some degree, be a reality.
 
Viridian, 1984, a pack of Caterpie crawled into town and devoured many small children. The blood was everywhere, the kids tried to fight back, but all was lost. About 8 skeletons were found 2 hours later.

Never try to fight Pokemon by yourself.
 
it is true that killed those kids and that they assumed a new form of retardation before evolving.
Red has fallen off Mt. Silver and seemingly survived because it was actually his ghost that you battle with live pokemon.
wow, a gastly is probably controlling a level 88 pikachu!
if he found out then there would be be very powerful wild pokemon roaming about!
 
RaccoonGoon said:
Viridian, 1984, a pack of Caterpie crawled into town and devoured many small children. The blood was everywhere, the kids tried to fight back, but all was lost. About 8 skeletons were found 2 hours later.

Never try to fight Pokemon by yourself.
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Oh, those poor children... there is a reason we have Pokemon to protect us against such horrible things.
 
I think death rates are high amongst non-trainers and children. After all, there are some pretty dangerous wild pokemon. I mean, I've read several dark fics where the bugs in the Viridian forest were blood suckers and where trainers have to wear body armor as well.
 
I was starting to think Ryuutakesh! wouldn't respond. He usually does.

The reason why I made this thread was because my sister and I were talking about this one day. I was wondering if all the unsupervised children running around were doing anything, and she thought they were. And from PokeSpe, we know that the Pokeworld can be dangerous. I suppose I should of put this in the first post.
 
A child stroking a strange wild Pikachu would get zapped because they aren't trusted by the Pikachu, a person would get burned by certain Pokemon like Ponyta for trust, love, bond etc.
However the damage may or may not be fatal.
 
Ryuutakesh! said:
I think death rates are high amongst non-trainers and children.
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I'd argue they're higher amongst trainers. Non-Trainers are usually going to be wise enough not to run off into Viridian Forest, but it's alarming how trainers can fight giant monsters, challenge criminals and journey through unstable caves and rough seas without being unscathed. Even if your Rattatta is in the top percentage, it's still not going to be much use against a swarm of bloodthirsty Weedle.
 
Or a Sunkern who discovers you have a Sun Stone!
My I was running for weeks from a Sunkern called FishBeware, he even beat up Whitney when I was running in her Clefairy shaped Gym!
 
Ryuutakesh! said:
I think death rates are high amongst non-trainers and children. After all, there are some pretty dangerous wild pokemon. I mean, I've read several dark fics where the bugs in the Viridian forest were blood suckers and where trainers have to wear body armor as well.
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And there's nothing more true to the nature of Pokémon than people's fan fiction...

Primal Darkrai said:
I was starting to think Ryuutakesh! wouldn't respond. He usually does.

The reason why I made this thread was because my sister and I were talking about this one day. I was wondering if all the unsupervised children running around were doing anything, and she thought they were. And from PokeSpe, we know that the Pokeworld can be dangerous. I suppose I should of put this in the first post.
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Oh man are you talking about underage doin' the nasty? I would say that no, the show has pretty much confirmed that Pokémon (and Brock, and Jessie on occasion) are the only people who even think about romance, and even then it's generally one-sided. Remember, this is a universe born of the minds of Japanese people—no one has sex or emotions (seriously, try and find the last two two characters hugged).

Team Rocket HAS to be emblematic of this. Here you have two attractive heterosexual people in their early twenties—with a taste for the dramatic, and we all know how actors are (slutty. Actors are slutty.)—and who clearly have enough chemistry to have remained in a stable relationship for years, yet nothing resembling even a bang-buddy system has emerged. They are seen multiple times sleeping quite chastely, fully clothed, in separate hammocks. And these are the bad guys, who care less for society's constraints than the good, regular trainers.

(And I realize it's a children's cartoon, but A. I've seen sexual tension pulled off decently in cartoons and B. we have to assume that this universe operates as it is presented to us, and we are not getting a whitewashed version of it.)




Or maybe Meowth is just the world's worst cockblocker. Who knows.
 
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