Blaze Black, Volt White? what exactly is it?

[Phoenix502]

I was talking to a friend of mine and he was talking to me about this "Blaze Black" edition of Gen V. what he described to me, though, was that it was a hacked copy that had opponents with completed metagame teams, rearranged item locations and more of the new battle modes in practice...

I thought about it for a second, and summed it up as a Gen V "hard mode" edition... though I'm not quite sure if that's everything.

I dunno if it's against the rules to discuss emulators, but if it isn't, I'm just wondering, is there more to these games than what I already said, or did I explain "what was on the tin" already...

he also mentioned there was a specific way to make it connect to the real games, but perhaps I'll ask that question when I know I'm not breaking any rules...

 

[Oswin]

I've never heard of it, it sounds like a hack.

I'm not sure but I think this might belong in the simple questions thread too.

 

[Andre27]

Blaze Black and Volt White are hacked versions of Pokemon Black and White.
All pokemon catchable, couple of different evolutions best of all the gyms/E4 are actually a challenge.

B.t.w. AFAIK it is not allowed to ask for Roms, but the roms and emulators are legal if you own a copy of the game. It's nice to be able to make a save for each person playing instead of having your save file overwritten every time someone else plays.

I'm playing Blaze Black at the moment (got the game at home, but DS is on loan to my nieces).

 

[Phoenix502]

well, I personally see no point in asking for a Rom with the almighty Google at my disposal. though I suppose if that be the case i might as well ask, then...

since my friend started Gen V with this hack, I was actually hoping to see if it's possible to get on WiFi with it and connect to the real games like my copy of white. he tells me there's a certain way to do it, and he hasn't had time to look into it... and I'm really very interested in seeing what strategies he's developed as a result. but, I guess I blame my unfamiliarity with emulators...

is it possible for emulated Pokemon games to go on WiFi and connect to the real copies of B/W, and if so, how?

 

[Andre27]

Emulated games can be transfered back to the DS, same as DS save files can be transfered to the emulator.

I've heard about experiments with emulators and 3rd party applications to go onto wifi, but i'm uncertain if they have it working yet.

 

[Soulweaver]

B.t.w. AFAIK it is not allowed to ask for Roms, but the roms and emulators are legal if you own a copy of the game.

Myth.

Can I Download a Nintendo ROM from the Internet if I Already Own the Authentic Game?

There is a good deal of misinformation on the Internet regarding the backup/archival copy exception. It is not a "second copy" rule and is often mistakenly cited for the proposition that if you have one lawful copy of a copyrighted work, you are entitled to have a second copy of the copyrighted work even if that second copy is an infringing copy. The backup/archival copy exception is a very narrow limitation relating to a copy being made by the rightful owner of an authentic game to ensure he or she has one in the event of damage or destruction of the authentic. Therefore, whether you have an authentic game or not, or whether you have possession of a Nintendo ROM for a limited amount of time, i.e. 24 hours, it is illegal to download and play a Nintendo ROM from the Internet.

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Isn't it Okay to Download Nintendo ROMs for Games that are No Longer Distributed in the Stores or Commercially Exploited? Aren't They Considered "Public Domain"?

No, the current availability of a game in stores is irrelevant as to its copyright status. Copyrights do not enter the public domain just because they are no longer commercially exploited or widely available. Therefore, the copyrights of games are valid even if the games are not found on store shelves, and using, copying and/or distributing those games is a copyright infringement.

Emulators themselves aren't illegal (they can be used for homebrew games legally) but ROMs you didn't rip specifically for your very personal backup use are indeed illegal.

 

[Andre27]

Myth.



Emulators themselves aren't illegal (they can be used for homebrew games legally) but ROMs you didn't rip specifically for your very personal backup use are indeed illegal.

Actually according to your own info not a myth. A rom by itself and an emulator are not illegal if that ROM is a backup.
Following from this is that the ROM found on google and other sources are illegal.

The Blaze Black and Volt White are patches/hacks for the personal backup ROM and as such not illegal.
The prepatched version floating on the web are illegal however. Gotta love/loath the legal mambo jumbo.

 

[Soulweaver]

If you patch them onto a game you ripped yourself, yes, that'd technically make it legal, but then it's not a backup but a modified game, and I don't know how those are worked with.

 

[Andre27]

If you patch them onto a game you ripped yourself, yes, that'd technically make it legal, but then it's not a backup but a modified game, and I don't know how those are worked with.

AFAIK it is not illegal if you do not distribute it.
It's like making remix from a song you bought on itunes. As long as you don't distribute it its legal.
If you distribute it however that's where the trouble begins.

This is also why forums do not allow people to ask for ROM. Personal backup is legal, but distributing a copy/backup (let alone a modified version) is not legal.

 

[Phoenix502]

okay, so I understand now that apparently it's only okay for private backups, outside of that, it's unlawful... Got it...

I guess I'll go look into online programs that refer to emulators for now. thanks.

 

[Andre27]

Speaking from experience, BB and VW are a lot tougher than the originals. The originals are good for online play and trading, but if you want a challenge for the gyms/E4 (let's face it.. every pokemon veteran found the gyms/E4 way to easy in original BW) then the hacked version can provide a nice challenge.

 

[Phoenix502]

that's what I figured, giving me all the more reason to try challenging said friend to a battle... it turns out, though, that the program he tried requires a wired connection to go on wifi successfully, which he doesn't have (uses wireless).

I guess I'll have to wait until then...