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Brock only capturing 3 Pokemon a region

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Similar to my thread about Ash only capturing 5 Pokemon a region:

http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=33923

Now here's my thread about Brock only capturing 3 Pokemon a region.

Ever since Hoenn Brock only had 3 Pokemon at a time each saga. Back then it was Foretress (lol), Mudkip and Ludicolo. Then in Battle Frontier, it was Foretress, Marshtompt and Bonsly.

Now in Sinnoh its Croagunk, Sudowoodo and Happiny.

Why do you think that ever since the "new formula" of the anime was established, the writers have only had Brock with 3 Pokemon a saga?

I guess they figured filling up Brock (and Misty's) teams with 5 to 6 Pokemon each and doing practically nothing with them was ridiculous back in Kanto/Johto, so they reduced it to three a saga.

Was this a good idea, IYO?
 
Instead of just getting rid of the problem the writers should have, ya' know, found a way to balance all those Pokemon in a reasonable matter.
 
I think three is a perfect amount for him. There's no way to balance the cast if everyone has 5/6 pokemon. The writers have enough trouble balancing screen time as it is.
 
I think it's obvious it was the right decision, even with 3 his Pokémon doesn't get so much spotlight (except Croagunk which is also usually just there to attack him and that's it)
 
Scott85 said:
Similar to my thread about Ash only capturing 5 Pokemon a region:

http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=33923

Now here's my thread about Brock only capturing 3 Pokemon a region.

Ever since Hoenn Brock only had 3 Pokemon at a time each saga. Back then it was Foretress (lol), Mudkip and Ludicolo. Then in Battle Frontier, it was Foretress, Marshtompt and Bonsly.

Now in Sinnoh its Croagunk, Sudowoodo and Happiny.

Why do you think that ever since the "new formula" of the anime was established, the writers have only had Brock with 3 Pokemon a saga?

I guess they figured filling up Brock (and Misty's) teams with 5 to 6 Pokemon each and doing practically nothing with them was ridiculous back in Kanto/Johto, so they reduced it to three a saga.

Was this a good idea, IYO?
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What's with the lol after Forretress? Even in Competitive Battling, it's one of the most useful defensive Pokemon.

Anyway, I think it works. As a result, we've seen a lot of Croagunk, great scenes and usefulness from Happinny (unlike Togepi), and some interesting development from Sudowoodo.
 
Rocket Girl said:
I think three is a perfect amount for him. There's no way to balance the cast if everyone has 5/6 pokemon. The writers have enough trouble balancing screen time as it is.
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To say there's no way is ridiculous. A more competent bunch of writers WOULD be able to write 6 Pokemon for each of the cast.
 
Trainer'sInsomnia said:
What's with the lol after Forretress? Even in Competitive Battling, it's one of the most useful defensive Pokemon.
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I put it there because Foretress is actually one of the longest lasting Pokemon in the anime, if you count when it was a Pineco, and it hardly got any screentime.

Pineco/Foretress was around for about 120 Johto eps, and 191 AG eps, giving it like 330 episodes on Brock's roster. 330 episodes for a non-mascot Pokemon is crazy, but it was never seen.

In that entire time we saw so little of it that it was easy to forget it existed.
 
I think 3 is a good number of Pokémon for him, since his Pokémon are mostly side characters, loading Brock with more of them would be a waste since they won't get enough screentime to justify their addition to the cast.
 
If only they let Brock battle more it wouldn't be a problem. I mean most of the time he takes a backseat while Ash and Dawn do all the work. Would it be too much to ask of a breeder, to battle. Croagunk is the only Pokemon we really see, Happiny to use it's strength, and Sudowoodo when he really needs to battle.

While you could say they have a screen time trouble with the whole cast. At least we see Dawn's and Ash's Pokemon quite a bit more than Brock's. I guess it mostly has to do with the fact Brock is pretty useless, since he really doesn't have a goal like Ash and Dawn. But still I think Brock should be used more even if its against Team Rocket.
 
Brock is such a small character in the recent anime that if they gave him any more Pokémon they would get almost no use.
 
Did Brock ever have that many pokemon? I only remember Geodude, Onix, Zubat and Vulpix. Then Pineco came along in Johto, but we lost Vulpix.

Anyway, I think you're right...Brock is a breeder, not a trainer, really. He doesn't do enough to have that many pokemon.
 
Evil Raichu said:
Did Brock ever have that many pokemon? I only remember Geodude, Onix, Zubat and Vulpix. Then Pineco came along in Johto, but we lost Vulpix.
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True, but Zubat (who got literally no screentime), evolved twice in Johto and both Golbat and Crobat got almost no screentime either.

I also don't remember seeing either Pineco or Vulpix too much. Brock really only just used Onix back then in most of his battles, and sometimes Geodude.
 
I think 3 per region is really enough. He doesnot get as much main screentime as other characters like Ash, so if he had more than 3, it would be harder to balance the gang and their pokemon.
 
Actually, the interesting and positive thing to note about Vulpix is that together, with Brock, it stayed very true to it's form as a breeder's Pokemon. Vulpix did get it's screen time in, but most of the time we saw it, Brock was grooming it or something.

I remember though in episode like 70 of Pokemon when Ash was training for Indigo, he battled his Pikachu against Brock's Vulpix, which implied that it was used to help Ash with training whenever things called for that. Unfortunately at the time though, the show didn't focus on things like that, so that was the only time this was seen on camera.

The only other battles I remembered it in were against Team Rocket, or that match it had against Skarmory in "Hot Matches". And then of course it's feature "capture" and "release" episodes. Yeah, most of the time it was just groomed and such, which is fine in the hands of a breeder.

Forretress should've had more screen time. Crobat I remember had a fair spand for a bit. While Onix, Marshtomp, and now Croagunk are clearly Brock's go-to out of most of his Pokemon. I still never understood why he didn't evolve his Onix into a Steelix during Johto.

Overall though, I think it's proven that any more Pokemon given to the sidekick would just fall in line as nothing more than a number. So 3 I guess is the way to go. Although, I think 4 would worked fine too, since he had as many in Kanto.

Right now, the primary thing I wanna see is Brock evolve Happiny into a Blissey, but I realized with the current push for 4th gen Pokemon that it's not likely to happen. I think that if a gen 5 is done though, that'll likely be the Pokemon he keeps with him this time, so that it'll later evolve.
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By the way, he's honestly been doing a great deal with these Pokemon. Happiny's helped the gang out a lot with it's strength, and has gotten sufficient enough screentime for a sidekick's Pokemon.

Bonsly had it's big battle in which it learned mimic against TR, that then carried on into the next episode when it became Sudowoodo and had a lot of character development or focus. It's shown to have, along with Brock, train with Ash, on several different occassions.

Croagunk was a heavy contender in the tag team contests, has had substantial amount of battling and various other activities within it's screen time, and then we can't forget it's awesome battle against Toxicroak, which will probably be continued later.
 
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I'm not too bothered about Brock having only three since the writers clearly don't think he's that important; we rarely see his Pokemon that much to begin with, so giving him more Pokemon would just be adding more Pokemon to the show that we see about once every twenty episodes. Three is a good amount for a supporting character, as Tracey only had three as well, though it would be nice if the Anime let Brock team up with Ash to battle Jessie and James. I will say that I like how Brock got two baby Pokemon from the fourth generation seeing as he's supposed to be, y'know, a Pokemon Breeder.

And, speaking of Team Rocket, I'm much more annoyed that they only ever have TWO Pokemon apiece (discounting Wobbuffet, who battles once every never). Jessie and James are the main "antagonists" of the show and they really only have four Pokemon between them. They could at least have three each, and even then they'd only have as many between the two of them as Ash and Dawn have alone.
 
Frost said:
I'm not too bothered about Brock having only three since the writers clearly don't think he's that important; we rarely see his Pokemon that much to begin with, so giving him more Pokemon would just be adding more Pokemon to the show that we see about once every twenty episodes. Three is a good amount for a supporting character, as Tracey only had three as well, though it would be nice if the Anime let Brock team up with Ash to battle Jessie and James. I will say that I like how Brock got two baby Pokemon from the fourth generation seeing as he's supposed to be, y'know, a Pokemon Breeder.

And, speaking of Team Rocket, I'm much more annoyed that they only ever have TWO Pokemon apiece (discounting Wobbuffet, who battles once every never). Jessie and James are the main "antagonists" of the show and they really only have four Pokemon between them. They could at least have three each, and even then they'd only have as many between the two of them as Ash and Dawn have alone.
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I never understood why they put an end to their tag matches back in Kanto. I mean they still would on occassion, like the fight for the Pewter Gym in Battle Frontier and other instances like that. But in Kanto he would pair up as Ash's tag team partner much more frequent and that's slowly stopped. I remember thinking we'd get a revival of that come the tag team tournament, originally, but then they did the bit with Ash and Paul. Slightly predictable.
 
Well, Brock in a serous battle episode maybe once or twice every 50 episodes so it's fine both Brock and Misty use to have 5-6 Pokémon, but it felt more like they each had 2-3 and there other Pokémon were never seen. I rather Brock have 3 since giving more than that would be overkill.
 
The Johto saga did some weird things with the gang's Pokemon. Onix didn't evolve, yet Zubat did, despite having virtually no screentime whatsoever.

Also they could have brought back Misty's Horsea and have it evolve into Kingdra...yet they didn't do that either.
 
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We do see his Pokemon come out and do stuff on occasion. Having the "drag him away from girls" thing handled by one of them helps. And occasionally they do more; we don't really have a Sinnoh equivalent of Forretress. It was only recently that I was pleasantly surprised to see Brock send out both Sudowoodo and Croagunk to help Ash battle Team Galactic.
 
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