Charon, Team Galactic, and Silph Co.

[TTEchidna]

Okay, so maybe this is a crackpot theory, but it's really making some sense, considering the links between HGSS and DPPt (especially Pt).

We all know Charon befriended Rotom when he was younger. The Secret Key lets us access the Rotom room in Pt, where Rotom's alternate forms can be found. Now, of course, it's in one of Galactic's buildings, so it's imaginable that a guy who works for them would have an office/development room for himself there.

Cyrus, of course, has a Master Ball, the most powerful Poké Ball. Now of course, there have been some theories on how he came to own one, considering its nearly-exclusive nature, but this isn't related to luck. In fact, the centerpoint to this is Charon.

In HGSS, if you have a Rotom first in your party (and not fainted, so it walks with you), walking into Silph Co. in Saffron will greet you with an empty lobby. But the elevator can be entered! Rotom takes you downstairs... and to a room that is exactly the same in almost every way (aside from entrance location) as Rotom's room in Sinnoh. The journals even mention that they were written by "the greatest genius in the world, Char..." This makes it obvious that Charon previously worked for Silph.

Three years before DPPt/HGSS, of course, was RSE/FRLG... and of course, the central conflict with Team Rocket is in Saffron, when they try to take over Silph for the Master Ball. Red breaks them up and stops their plot, and then is given a Master Ball by the President. Of course, it's a prototype, but that doesn't mean there's only one (and in fact, the lotto things in Johto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh prove that they are mass-produced, just much less than the others).

Here's my theory. Charon, tired of his Silph Co. work, and inspired by Team Rocket, stole a Master Ball and attempted to sell it. Now, go ahead and try this in any game. Gen I/II, you can do it, and get nothing for it. Gen III and IV, though, the Poké Marts won't buy it. Of course, with Team Galactic in Sinnoh, Charon sees his perfect opportunity, and joins it, giving the Master Ball to Cyrus so he can use it to capture Arceus.

Now another fun thing comes up. Porygon2 was implied to have been developed as an enhancement of Porygon, for space travel. Could Charon have been related to that project before he left? Possibly. In Platinum, the only Dubious Disc in the game is found in Team Galactic's HQ in Veilstone. Now, the Dubious Disc itself is at the very least implied to have been an unauthorized enhancement to Porygon2, but Porygon-Z's Pokédex entries imply much more:

DP: "Additional software was installed to make it a better Pokémon. It began acting oddly, however."
Pt: "Its programming was modified to enable work in alien dimensions. It did not work as planned."
HGSS: "Its programming was modified to enable it to move freely between different dimensions but something seems to have gone wrong."

Alien dimensions. That's exactly what Team Galactic's aiming to access, to find Dialga and Palkia.

SO IN SHORT

Charon worked for Silph Co.
Charon got Cyrus the Master Ball.
Charon developed the Dubious Disc.

And now we gotta fit the plot of RSE in somewhere, considering RBY/FRLG is connected to GSC/HGSS and DPPt, while Hoenn might as well happen 50 years after the rest of them, considering Oak doesn't even appear in those three.

 

[Instrutilus]

Perhaps Silph was transfering a Master Ball to Devon after they bought one, but was taken by Team Aqua before it reached the intended destination, since it's found in Aqua's base in Emerald. Hoenn events occured at the same time as Kanto Events, like how Sinnoh Events took place at the same time as Johto Events.

 

[Jirachi's Wish]

Interesting, I like this theory and goes more into Charon's past. Also shows the meaning of what the dubious disk was going to be possibly used for, plus shows how Cyrus obtained a master ball. It works well in the FR/LG/R/S/E and HG/SS/D/P/Pt timeline.

 

[TTEchidna]

Perhaps Silph was transfering a Master Ball to Devon after they bought one, but was taken by Team Aqua before it reached the intended destination, since it's found in Aqua's base in Emerald. Hoenn events occured at the same time as Kanto Events, like how Sinnoh Events took place at the same time as Johto Events.

Well of course, I'm one of the stronger proponents of the "RSE at the same time as FRLG" theory, but nothing completely concrete links the two.

Though perhaps the Devon Goods had the Master Ball inside, so there ya go.

 

[Mitchman]

Very crackpot and the rotom room should only be considered canon in the DPt part. The book was copy pasted into the game just for the sake of it and nothing more.

 

[TTEchidna]

But then isn't that like claiming that Johto has no Battle Frontier? The anime's pretty much hinting that we're gonna see Johto again, and the Battle Frontier being the same in HGSS and Pt implies we'll have a similar thing to how we had the Hoenn BF in Kanto during the anime arc leading up to DP.

 

[AndyPKMN]

I think the Charon worked at Silph theory is somewhat plausible. However, there's a lot of other possibilities to factor in. Maybe Silph acquired the journal somehow and was studying Rotom's formes, perhaps even developing that line of electronics specifically for Rotom's use. Maybe it is as Phantom Ruler Z said, and the room (or at least the diary) was simply copy-pasted as a tutorial to changing Rotom's formes. Regardless, I don't think the Master Ball would make good evidence for or against Charon's employment at Silph; as you said, they appear to be mass produced, and I'd guess that the only reason you can't buy them in stores is that they're prohibitively expensive. Your dubious disk theory is extremely interesting, although there's almost no evidence for or against it.


(On a side note: I like to imagine the Battle Frontier as a sort of travelling festival, and the time difference is why it differs between Generations: It's simply a different tour in Generation IV. In fact, that could explain why the Battle Tower is always there, even when the Frontier isn't: the Frontier sets up at a region's Battle Tower.)

 

[The Outrage]

I wouldn't say Master Balls are "mass-produced" considering that stores do not take them (or sell for nothing in earlier generations), but that they are made for specific people or organizations. The lottery is probably one such organizations, and its been seen that the Master ball is given to important people such as Pokemon Professors.

 

[Falconwing]

I actually agree with this. It makes perfect sense and I don't see any massive holes. Actually, I don't see any holes at all.

 

[glacea]

I find that theory very interesting.. but I have one big doubt... how is that the master balls are gifts from the lottos???.. I mean... they could just get stolen or something..I don't get the relation between something so important and the lotto...

 

[Falconwing]

I find that theory very interesting.. but I have one big doubt... how is that the master balls are gifts from the lottos???.. I mean... they could just get stolen or something..I don't get the relation between something so important and the lotto...

well, how is at any different from the real world lottery giving out loads of money?

 

[glacea]

well, how is at any different from the real world lottery giving out loads of money?

actually it's not so similar... I mean.. you can't buy master balls...is more like a super-exclusive and rare item.. at least that's what I think..

 

[The Outrage]

actually it's not so similar... I mean.. you can't buy master balls...is more like a super-exclusive and rare item.. at least that's what I think..

Exactly, which is why its a prize. Or you can write it up as just another game mechanic.

 

[WallflowerCanyon]

Now another fun thing comes up. Porygon2 was implied to have been developed as an enhancement of Porygon, for space travel. Could Charon have been related to that project before he left? Possibly. In Platinum, the only Dubious Disc in the game is found in Team Galactic's HQ in Veilstone. Now, the Dubious Disc itself is at the very least implied to have been an unauthorized enhancement to Porygon2, but Porygon-Z's Pokédex entries imply much more:

DP: "Additional software was installed to make it a better Pokémon. It began acting oddly, however."
Pt: "Its programming was modified to enable work in alien dimensions. It did not work as planned."
HGSS: "Its programming was modified to enable it to move freely between different dimensions but something seems to have gone wrong."

Alien dimensions. That's exactly what Team Galactic's aiming to access, to find Dialga and Palkia.

*head explodes*:boom:

That's a really, really interesting theory....I like it.:-D At first I had always thought that maybe it was Team Rocket who was behind everything involving Porygon and it's evolutions.

I heard about Charon's journal being in Silph co. too, and I think it's a high probability that he did work for Silph before working for Team Galactic. I mean, cmon....

"the greatest genius in the world, Char..."

Who else has a name that starts with "Char" and is described as being "the greatest genius in the world"? He gloats about that in the games and anime quite a bit, actually....:lol:

 

[Falconwing]

actually it's not so similar... I mean.. you can't buy master balls...is more like a super-exclusive and rare item.. at least that's what I think..

you can't buy lots of money. Getting that much money is rare.

Frankly, master balls are only powerful when used against powerful pokemon. Otherwise, they're just another ball catching another com-mon. So, really, they aren't all the great to anyone but the player who of course is going to use it to capture some really rare and powerful pokemon.

 

[Dewgong Reign]

Maybe Charon created PorygonZ to be a scout to go into the alien dimensions so he knew it was safe for Cyrus?

 

[The Outrage]

Maybe Charon created PorygonZ to be a scout to go into the alien dimensions so he knew it was safe for Cyrus?

I don't think Cyrus had the intention of going into those dimensions himself. What he wanted was Palkia and Dialga, so Porygon Z would probably have been created to search for them.

 

[Darkeiya]

What he wanted was Palkia and Dialga, so Porygon Z would probably have been created to search for them.

I assume that would ideally be the intent-- have Porygon-Z go dimension-hopping in search of Dialga and Palkia and possibly capture them, or at least provide some means of doing so. However, something in the Dubious Disc screwed up the programming and Porygon-Z ended up being too glitchy to make it past the testing phase, let alone be useful to Team Galactic. Therefore, the idea was abandoned, the Red Chain project was pursued instead, and the Disc was discarded somewhere in headquarters.

... that's my own speculation on that notion, anyway. No, I'm not trying to add onto it, what do you mean.

 

[Jirachi's Wish]

I assume that would ideally be the intent-- have Porygon-Z go dimension-hopping in search of Dialga and Palkia and possibly capture them, or at least provide some means of doing so. However, something in the Dubious Disc screwed up the programming and Porygon-Z ended up being too glitchy to make it past the testing phase, let alone be useful to Team Galactic. Therefore, the idea was abandoned, the Red Chain project was pursued instead, and the Disc was discarded somewhere in headquarters.

... that's my own speculation on that notion, anyway. No, I'm not trying to add onto it, what do you mean.

That sounds likely, possibly instead of Porygon-Z going out to scout and search for Dialga or Palkia, maybe Team Galactic was using Porygon as a means of travel to reach the dimension where Dialga and Palkia reside, then capture them. But possibly due to it being glitchy and Team Galactic possibly being worried since the protoype being glitchy itself decided to abandon it and use the red chain instead as you said. Also I was thinking if they had used Porygon-Z maybe since it was glitchy it may of opened a portal to the Torn World leading to Giratina.