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Well, I've got permission from Dolce to host this tourney, so I may as well make the thread... I don't really have anything else to say, so here are the rules:
Rules:
Prizes:
1st place: Either a Riolu or a Charmander that is geared towards a Mega 'Zard X, whoever wins it gets their pick.
2nd place: Beldum
3rd place: Weedle
Note: All of the prizes 'mons are going to have perfect 5 IVs.
Participants:
Rules:
No. of players per match: The matches shall all be 1v1 battles.
Match rules: Said matches shall be Three Stock matches with ten minutes on the clock.
Matches per round: Best of three.
Tourney structure: I'm thinking Double Elimination.
Stages: I have decided upon the stages that shall be allowed or not, and here are the ones that, unless you use the Omega version, are NOT ALLOWED to be used, and the reason for said banning:
Characters: Every single character shall be allowed to participate, including Miis.
Customizations: I'd say that Equipment should not be allowed as it can make the game incredibly unballenced, not to mention unfair to those whosuck can't get good enough Equipment. As for Custom Moves, those are fair game, even the Power Arrow, as I've determined from the following test:
Goal: same as last time, to determine if the Power Arrows are worthy of a ban.
Method: same as last time, fight twenty-five Stock matches (with three Stock) against Lv. 9 CPUs with Link’s Hero’s Bow on Omega stages, then fight the same amount of Lv. 9 CPUs on Omega stages with Link equipped with the Power Arrow. Oh, and the Standard Special is the only thing that’s going to change, not equipment, not his other Specials, nothing.
Hero’s Bow:
Wins: IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII II
Stock remaining:
Match 1: 2
Match 2: 2
Match 3: 1
Match 4: 1
Match 5: 1
Match 6: 3
Match 7: 3
Match 8: 2
Match 9: 2
Match 10: 2
Match 11: 1
Match 12: 2
Match 13: 3
Match 14: 1
Match 15: 3
Match 16: 2
Match 17: 1 (CPU)
Match 18: 2
Match 19: 1
Match 20: 3
Match 21: 2
Match 22: 2
Match 23: 1
Match 24: 1 (CPU)
Match 25: 1 (CPU)
CPUs fought: Peach-win, Yoshi-win, Diddy Knog-win, Villager-win, PAC-MAN-win, Sheik-win, Ness-win, Little Mac-win, Samus-win, Wii Fit Trainer-win, Mario-win, Sonic-win, Meta Knight-win, Captain Falcon-win, Zero Suit Samus-win, Lucina-win, Pikachu-loss, Donkey Kong-win, Palutena-win, Yoshi-win, Falco-win, Charizard-win, PAC-MAN-win, Captain Falcon-loss, Duck hunt Duo-loss
Power Arrows:
Wins: IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII IIII
Stock Remaining:
Match 1: 1
Match 2: 1 (CPU)
Match 3: 1
Match 4: 3
Match 5: 2
Match 6: 3
Match 7: 3
Match 8: 2
Match 9: 2
Match 10: 2
Match 11: 1
Match 12: 3
Match 13: 1
Match 14: 2
Match 15: 1
Match 16: 3
Match 17: 3
Match 18: 2
Match 19: 1
Match 20: 3
Match 21: 1
Match 22: 2
Match 23: 2
Match 24: 2
Match 25: 2
CPUs fought: Luigi-win, Little Mac-loss, Kind Dedede-win, Zero Suit Samus-win, Pikachu-win, Bowser Jr.-win, Wii Fit Trainer-win, Fox-win, Pac-Man-win, Diddy Kong-win, Villager-win, Olimar-win, Peach-win, Dr. Mario-win, Zelda-win, Yoshi-win, Mr. Game & Watch-win, Sheik-win, Ike-win, Marth-win, Toon Link-win, Duck Hunt Duo-win, Bowser Jr.-win, Donkey Kong-win, Pikachu-win.
Notes: I have actually managed to kill a CPU with the Hero’s Bow, but the CPU in question was at 100% damage and in mid-air.
It seems the only time that spamming the Hero’s Bow is a good idea is when the AI is feeling stupid and not blocking/jumping.
I’m noticing that spamming the Power Arrows is a lot harder than before due to the longer charge time and slightly slower speed – in fact, I found Bomb spam more effective than Power Arrow spam.
Also, it seems that a lot of the Power Arrow kills I got were from the AI doing something stupid, such as evading rather than jumping when trying to get back on the stage from the ledge.
Conclusion: I'm going to allow them to be used, as they have been significantly nerfed since the 3DS version.
Items:Since this is a Bulbagarden tourney, the Pokéball and Master Ball are pretty much in. Oh, and the Smash Ball is in too. Also, I think that they should be set to Low so that it's not (too) uncompeditve.
Version: Wii U, because lag sucks.
Dates: Due to lack of interest, I'll postpone it 'till after Christmas... The 30th sounds good. (Note: That date is based off of New Zealand time, which is GMT +13, so that it's easier for me to keep track of everything.)
Match rules: Said matches shall be Three Stock matches with ten minutes on the clock.
Matches per round: Best of three.
Tourney structure: I'm thinking Double Elimination.
Stages: I have decided upon the stages that shall be allowed or not, and here are the ones that, unless you use the Omega version, are NOT ALLOWED to be used, and the reason for said banning:
Mushroom Kingdom U - Nabbit
Mario Circuit (Brawl) - Karts
Norfair – lava
Pyrosphere - Ridley
Temple – too big
Port Town Aero Dive – track (when moving), cars
Orbital Gate Assault – platforms moving out of the way of recovery, the shield… thing that the ship occasionally rams into
Kalos Pokémon League – various
Onett – cars
Flat Zone X – various
Palutena’s Temple – too big, spikes
Skyworld – destructable edges
Garden of Hope – various
75 m -it sucks, fireballs, DK
Wrecking Crew – bombs
Wily Castle – Yellow Devil
PAC-LAND - various
Mario Circuit (Brawl) - Karts
Norfair – lava
Pyrosphere - Ridley
Temple – too big
Port Town Aero Dive – track (when moving), cars
Orbital Gate Assault – platforms moving out of the way of recovery, the shield… thing that the ship occasionally rams into
Kalos Pokémon League – various
Onett – cars
Flat Zone X – various
Palutena’s Temple – too big, spikes
Skyworld – destructable edges
Garden of Hope – various
75 m -
Wrecking Crew – bombs
Wily Castle – Yellow Devil
PAC-LAND - various
Characters: Every single character shall be allowed to participate, including Miis.
Customizations: I'd say that Equipment should not be allowed as it can make the game incredibly unballenced, not to mention unfair to those who
Power Arrows test 2:
Goal: same as last time, to determine if the Power Arrows are worthy of a ban.
Method: same as last time, fight twenty-five Stock matches (with three Stock) against Lv. 9 CPUs with Link’s Hero’s Bow on Omega stages, then fight the same amount of Lv. 9 CPUs on Omega stages with Link equipped with the Power Arrow. Oh, and the Standard Special is the only thing that’s going to change, not equipment, not his other Specials, nothing.
The Data:
Hero’s Bow:
Wins: IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII II
Stock remaining:
Match 1: 2
Match 2: 2
Match 3: 1
Match 4: 1
Match 5: 1
Match 6: 3
Match 7: 3
Match 8: 2
Match 9: 2
Match 10: 2
Match 11: 1
Match 12: 2
Match 13: 3
Match 14: 1
Match 15: 3
Match 16: 2
Match 17: 1 (CPU)
Match 18: 2
Match 19: 1
Match 20: 3
Match 21: 2
Match 22: 2
Match 23: 1
Match 24: 1 (CPU)
Match 25: 1 (CPU)
CPUs fought: Peach-win, Yoshi-win, Diddy Knog-win, Villager-win, PAC-MAN-win, Sheik-win, Ness-win, Little Mac-win, Samus-win, Wii Fit Trainer-win, Mario-win, Sonic-win, Meta Knight-win, Captain Falcon-win, Zero Suit Samus-win, Lucina-win, Pikachu-loss, Donkey Kong-win, Palutena-win, Yoshi-win, Falco-win, Charizard-win, PAC-MAN-win, Captain Falcon-loss, Duck hunt Duo-loss
Power Arrows:
Wins: IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII IIII
Stock Remaining:
Match 1: 1
Match 2: 1 (CPU)
Match 3: 1
Match 4: 3
Match 5: 2
Match 6: 3
Match 7: 3
Match 8: 2
Match 9: 2
Match 10: 2
Match 11: 1
Match 12: 3
Match 13: 1
Match 14: 2
Match 15: 1
Match 16: 3
Match 17: 3
Match 18: 2
Match 19: 1
Match 20: 3
Match 21: 1
Match 22: 2
Match 23: 2
Match 24: 2
Match 25: 2
CPUs fought: Luigi-win, Little Mac-loss, Kind Dedede-win, Zero Suit Samus-win, Pikachu-win, Bowser Jr.-win, Wii Fit Trainer-win, Fox-win, Pac-Man-win, Diddy Kong-win, Villager-win, Olimar-win, Peach-win, Dr. Mario-win, Zelda-win, Yoshi-win, Mr. Game & Watch-win, Sheik-win, Ike-win, Marth-win, Toon Link-win, Duck Hunt Duo-win, Bowser Jr.-win, Donkey Kong-win, Pikachu-win.
Notes: I have actually managed to kill a CPU with the Hero’s Bow, but the CPU in question was at 100% damage and in mid-air.
It seems the only time that spamming the Hero’s Bow is a good idea is when the AI is feeling stupid and not blocking/jumping.
I’m noticing that spamming the Power Arrows is a lot harder than before due to the longer charge time and slightly slower speed – in fact, I found Bomb spam more effective than Power Arrow spam.
Also, it seems that a lot of the Power Arrow kills I got were from the AI doing something stupid, such as evading rather than jumping when trying to get back on the stage from the ledge.
Conclusion: I'm going to allow them to be used, as they have been significantly nerfed since the 3DS version.
Items:Since this is a Bulbagarden tourney, the Pokéball and Master Ball are pretty much in. Oh, and the Smash Ball is in too. Also, I think that they should be set to Low so that it's not (too) uncompeditve.
Version: Wii U, because lag sucks.
Dates: Due to lack of interest, I'll postpone it 'till after Christmas... The 30th sounds good. (Note: That date is based off of New Zealand time, which is GMT +13, so that it's easier for me to keep track of everything.)
Prizes:
1st place: Either a Riolu or a Charmander that is geared towards a Mega 'Zard X, whoever wins it gets their pick.
2nd place: Beldum
3rd place: Weedle
Note: All of the prizes 'mons are going to have perfect 5 IVs.
Participants:
Round 1:
Kelleo vs. Pokefan1103
joe homie charles vs. Ninetales Prower
Round 2:
Ninetales Prower vs. returnofMCH
Round 3: joe homie charles vs. returnofMCH
Round 4: Ninetales Prower vs. returnofMCH
Kelleo vs. Pokefan1103
joe homie charles vs. Ninetales Prower
Round 2:
Ninetales Prower vs. returnofMCH
Round 3: joe homie charles vs. returnofMCH
Round 4: Ninetales Prower vs. returnofMCH
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