Could Gary Appear?

[LuxrayOfTheWild]

Okay so I'm not sure if some have seen this yet, but there's a guy in one of the Pokemon centers who talks about Professor Oak's grandson being in Kalos and as we all know, this is Gary. This might be a small detail, but do you think the writers will take this and end up using this so Ash can meet up with his old rival? A large part of me is hoping to see him return and catch up on how his research has been going since we've last seen him in Sinnoh.

 

[Bluelatios]

I don't see any reason why not. There's bound to be SOMETHING for him to research with the ridiculously huge regional dex Kalos has. I'd love to see Gary again!

 

[LuxrayOfTheWild]

I don't see any reason why not. There's bound to be SOMETHING for him to research with the ridiculously huge regional dex Kalos has. I'd love to see Gary again!

The major thing I could see Gary researching is probably Mega Evolution

 

[PockyAddict]

I hope they actually take advantage of that! I'd love to see gary again.

 

[Almonds]

Okay so I'm not sure if some have seen this yet, but there's a guy in one of the Pokemon centers who talks about Professor Oak's grandson being in Kalos and as we all know, this is Gary. This might be a small detail, but do you think the writers will take this and end up using this so Ash can meet up with his old rival? A large part of me is hoping to see him return and catch up on how his research has been going since we've last seen him in Sinnoh.

FOR SRS IS THIS REAL?!

Must see the anime ♥ Garyyy ♥

He'd probably appear researching something new in Kalos, but I wouldn't mind if he came back as a rival again.

 

[Ashfangirl22]

Seems to me anime never misses out on a chance to bring Gary back, since he's he's talk about in the games I'd say odds are pretty high. It's been a while, I look forward to it

 

[Master Cyrus]

How do you know they are referring to gary and not say Yrag Kao from the one time Oak smoked some crystal from a Malamar and was transported into the world of OtanK?

 

[Masato]

It would be a waste if they don't use this opportunity to have Gary make appearances in XY. I would really like to see how Serena and Gary interact with each other (Assuming that the two knew each other during their childhood).

 

[Satoshi Da Ze]

I thought people hated his last appearances.

I think it would be nice.

 

[Eitarou]

Okay so I'm not sure if some have seen this yet, but there's a guy in one of the Pokemon centers who talks about Professor Oak's grandson being in Kalos and as we all know, this is Gary. This might be a small detail, but do you think the writers will take this and end up using this so Ash can meet up with his old rival? A large part of me is hoping to see him return and catch up on how his research has been going since we've last seen him in Sinnoh.

No. No it's not. It's Blue Oak, Gary's game counterpart who is a very different character.

One reference to Blue does not mean Gary will show up.

 

[YamiiDenryuu]

I don't think the anime strictly follows little things in the games like that. Maybe he'll show, but it's not guaranteed.

 

[Magma Bomb]

Personally, I don't care. Gary is a completely developed character who already quit his journeys and more or less finished his old rivalry with Ash. Futher appearences of him wouldn't bring something new, it only works as nostalgia bait.

 

[pokemon fan 132]

Its certainly possibility. Not only because of being referenced through in new games through his game counterpart, but also because of his role of researcher npowaday makes him mobile and versatile character which can easily return in any region. Since from story standpoint writers could just send him to whatever region they want with purpose of discovering new species and doing field research like they did in DP.

And revelation of mega evolution is all that more of a reason for Gary to travel to Kalos and learn about its origins, secrets and what causes pokemon to go through such drastic transformation and power up of their abilities. Especially when judging by prof. Scycamore referring it as just recently discovered concept with even people native to Kalos region like Clemont not knowing about it veils whole dash of mystery on it accompanied with ton of material and potential through which someone with career of researcher could play vital part in whole story contributing in unlocking all of its mysteries. Fact of having pokemon which can mega evolve like Blastoise having already lot of experience and training behind himself sets foundation for achieving such level of power creep adding more if marketing value to Gary characer and additional justification behind comeback.
It would be cool seeing him battle with it again.

Personally i wouldn't mind seeing Gary again because he was important part of anime history influencing Ash growth by great deal. I would like to see how much he changed, what new pokemon he may have added to his team and in what way he could contribute to current storyline. It would be certainly nice throwback to past, that's for sure.
Which is desireable in some doze increasing continuity and strengthening anime storyline.

Personally, I don't care. Gary is a completely developed character who already quit his journeys and more or less finished his old rivalry with Ash. Futher appearences of him wouldn't bring something new, it only works as nostalgia bait.

In Pokemon i don't think there exists such thing as "completely developed character". Since its not famous for some deep character growth and complex plot to begin with.

Depending on circumstances i believe his character could add more to storyline and offer something new. Im of opinion how anyone can become vrelevant and important again if writers have creative and fresh ideas in their mind knowing how to take advantage of role he/she is currently stuck into and infiltrate it within storyline so that both series and character could gain something from it.

But i guess it depends from which angle you look at this things too.

 

[YamiiDenryuu]

Personally, I don't care. Gary is a completely developed character who already quit his journeys and more or less finished his old rivalry with Ash. Futher appearences of him wouldn't bring something new, it only works as nostalgia bait.

In Pokemon i don't think there exists such thing as "completely developed character". Since its not famous for some deep character growth and complex plot to begin with.

Depending on circumstances i believe his character could add more to storyline and offer something new. Im of opinion how anyone can become vrelevant and important again if writers have creative and fresh ideas in their mind knowing how to take advantage of role he/she is currently stuck into and infiltrate it within storyline so that both series and character could gain something from it.

But i guess it depends from which angle you look at this things too.

The problem with that is that to "complete" a character's development, they're going to need a lot more than a cameo appearance- they'll need an actual role in the storyline. That's not something likely to happen if Gary comes back just because of that line in the games, leaving him with a cameo that can't provide much for him.

And I do feel Gary's wrapped up by the standards of this show, at least.

 

[Satoshi Da Ze]

Depends on what you consider 'complete'.

Shigeru DID develop from Kanto to the conclusion of Joutou's League. His behavior matured completely from his Kanto counterpart. And it developed further when he decided to stop competing. If we had to keep saying all those characters getting developed further, their stories would never end.
We already have Satoshi's never ending journey. We don't need them to bring up everyone else's all the time.
What we needed to know about Shigeru was already concluded. So was Kasumi's, Takeshi's, Haruka's, Shinji's and Hikari's.

 

[pokemon fan 132]

The problem with that is that to "complete" a character's development, they're going to need a lot more than a cameo appearance- they'll need an actual role in the storyline. That's not something likely to happen if Gary comes back just because of that line in the games, leaving him with a cameo that can't provide much for him.

And I do feel Gary's wrapped up by the standards of this show, at least.

Chapter of being Ash rival has been mainly closed down, but his new ambition of becoming pokemon researcher following grandfasther footsteps created new direction through which character can be explored, build upon and gain some valuable growth.

Something which such unknown and new concept like mega evolution allows to be done perfectly tying into new life path Gary choosed to follow and way to learn more himself, gather new knowledge about whole process behind pokemon experiencing such power boost informing other scientists and professors from other regions with discoveries he made. While utilizing his acquired knowledge and skills as battler through Blastoise or some other pokemon leading toward their mega evolution getting from first hand insight in whole process and secrets through his own pokemon along with playing vital role in story be it by battling Team Flare, Ash or contributing to story in some other way.

I certauinly don' see anything wrong in Ash and friends story clashing sometime bumping into each other, rekindling friendship, meet new companions and go in same direction gathering new experience, forming new friendships and developing their stories.

Regardless of all new characters we get, there is no reason in my opinion to forget about previous ones like Gary in this case and do more with those you started your work about coming back when their presence could help push things forward while gaining benefit themselves through it.
There is no justification to erase them forever like they never existed, because that way your only damaging series reputation and credibility instead of making it appealing to all kind of fans making people happy of their favorites not being abandoned enjoying in their personalities, pokemon and new stuff made with them.

Depends on what you consider 'complete'.

Shigeru DID develop from Kanto to the conclusion of Joutou's League. His behavior matured completely from his Kanto counterpart. And it developed further when he decided to stop competing. If we had to keep saying all those characters getting developed further, their stories would never end.
We already have Satoshi's never ending journey. We don't need them to bring up everyone else's all the time.
What we needed to know about Shigeru was already concluded. So was Kasumi's, Takeshi's, Haruka's, Shinji's and Hikari's.

To be fair just because character went through some developoment doesn't mean he couldn't develop further or how we learned everything we needed about someone. That depends on viewer experience, did he received required amount of growth so that we could look back and say how his time on show brought him clodser toward avhievement of his ambitions accomplishing something significant enough and how much we wanted to see someone fleshed out.
For instance i felt with May we didn't got enough fleshing as we could never seeing her develop her own contest style stepping out from Ash shadow having unfinished business with rivals, room left to improve as coordinator which could lead her toward top coordinator title etc.
With Misty her water master career was unexplored, so was her admiration toward Lorelei, there was left more to be done with pokemon team and skills as trainer learning to use them in most optimal way(like weakness to electruc, psyduck etc), explore on backstory, her fears, flaws and what motivated her in wanting to become water master . Ending unfinished with lot more left to be done.

Gary may have matured, but he is by anime standards relatively green character having more to offer and learn as person, develop his skills as reseasrcher and build his own reputation and glory as Oak grandson. He certainly isn't something i would call as character used to its full potential if you ask me.
He is still present within same continuity and universe with connection to prof. Oak always making him relevant to series to some degree. Especially as Ash childhood friend playing important role in main protagonist history along with posession of pokermon which can mega evolve giving him again marketing value to become relevant and promote something.

I have nothing against sequels personally , as long they're executed in believable and proper manner.

No one story in this show was concluded anyway persay having unfulfilled dreams and ambitions, they were just replaced with some quickly made plotline to have them send of the cast and make room for whatever number of new characters were gonna get following repetitive, never ending cycle.

 

[Lis]

Despite how much i'd love to see Gary back, since he was Ash's first nemesis and as far as we've seen, in the anime all Ash's rivals end up contributing to his personal growth in some way at the end of each season, (even though he might seem to forget about those lessons in the following saga) and he was the first to inspire in Ash a strong wish to prove himself that he could overcome anything; and beat anyone.

Shigeru DID develop from Kanto to the conclusion of Joutou's League. His behavior matured completely from his Kanto counterpart. And it developed further when he decided to stop competing. If we had to keep saying all those characters getting developed further, their stories would never end.

I agree with you on the fact that his "role" in the anime was decently closed, but i don't think that yet another rival is the answer.
Another different rival who makes Ash's blood boil once or twice will be another uneccesary cliché, whereas an old rival that comes back could be a new; striking change in the series (not to mention that some flashbacks of the episodes would be shown, adding a deeper sense of complexity and showing the deepnes that a true rivalry between two people should actually have) Yes, making Gary grow more as a character might not be the answer, but i sincerely believe that his alredy moderatly "developed" character could be a great impact in the series. We would have in front of us an old rival of Ash's that decides to get out of the desk and return to the "action" (wheter it be in order to help him or not) Thanks to Gary's occupation, is easy for him to re-appear anytime. I think it would be worthful to show contradiction between Gary's instincts: a certain dubious ambiguity between his fighting senses calling him back in order to help (or not) an old friend-rival from long ago; and his now well-trained researcher senses' that keep on telling him not to go (because he's not certain if he can even go, or how urgent is the call for help, etc. Anything of the sort)
In my opinion; as he would obviously choose to follow his heart, this could also leave a thrilling impression on the viewers, that Pokemon is something; some kind of feeling, strong enough for you to leave everything behind and follow your instincts alongside little aliens with powers- I remember quiet well that that was what it was all about back then, and it would most positively attract more viewers (who could forget Ash hugging Pikachu while being electrocuted, out of pure determination? however that is not to be mentioned now)
Instead of adding new faces that could pretty much be forgotten in the next season, to bring old ones back but with better plots and storyline would be more diverting. Dragon Ball showed the same "faces" (in terms of principal characters) all along and it still is one of the "faces" of the anime.
However, Even though Gary could most surely appear again on screen, the odds are not in its favour.

 

[Divine Synner]

Okay so I'm not sure if some have seen this yet, but there's a guy in one of the Pokemon centers who talks about Professor Oak's grandson being in Kalos and as we all know, this is Gary. This might be a small detail, but do you think the writers will take this and end up using this so Ash can meet up with his old rival? A large part of me is hoping to see him return and catch up on how his research has been going since we've last seen him in Sinnoh.

No. No it's not. It's Blue Oak, Gary's game counterpart who is a very different character.

One reference to Blue does not mean Gary will show up.

I thought his official name was Green Oak? Blue is Red's girl companion.

 

[Magma Bomb]

Despite how much i'd love to see Gary back, since he was Ash's first nemesis and as far as we've seen, in the anime all Ash's rivals end up contributing to his personal growth in some way at the end of each season, (even though he might seem to forget about those lessons in the following saga) and he was the first to inspire in Ash a strong wish to prove himself that he could overcome anything; and beat anyone.

Shigeru DID develop from Kanto to the conclusion of Joutou's League. His behavior matured completely from his Kanto counterpart. And it developed further when he decided to stop competing. If we had to keep saying all those characters getting developed further, their stories would never end.

I agree with you on the fact that his "role" in the anime was decently closed, but i don't think that yet another rival is the answer.
Another different rival who makes Ash's blood boil once or twice will be another uneccesary cliché, whereas an old rival that comes back could be a new; striking change in the series (not to mention that some flashbacks of the episodes would be shown, adding a deeper sense of complexity and showing the deepnes that a true rivalry between two people should actually have) Yes, making Gary grow more as a character might not be the answer, but i sincerely believe that his alredy moderatly "developed" character could be a great impact in the series. We would have in front of us an old rival of Ash's that decides to get out of the desk and return to the "action" (wheter it be in order to help him or not) Thanks to Gary's occupation, is easy for him to re-appear anytime. I think it would be worthful to show contradiction between Gary's instincts: a certain dubious ambiguity between his fighting senses calling him back in order to help (or not) an old friend-rival from long ago; and his now well-trained researcher senses' that keep on telling him not to go (because he's not certain if he can even go, or how urgent is the call for help, etc. Anything of the sort)
In my opinion; as he would obviously choose to follow his heart, this could also leave a thrilling impression on the viewers, that Pokemon is something; some kind of feeling, strong enough for you to leave everything behind and follow your instincts alongside little aliens with powers- I remember quiet well that that was what it was all about back then, and it would most positively attract more viewers (who could forget Ash hugging Pikachu while being electrocuted, out of pure determination? however that is not to be mentioned now)
Instead of adding new faces that could pretty much be forgotten in the next season, to bring old ones back but with better plots and storyline would be more diverting. Dragon Ball showed the same "faces" (in terms of principal characters) all along and it still is one of the "faces" of the anime.
However, Even though Gary could most surely appear again on screen, the odds are not in its favour.

No, just no. I don't comprehend this logic at all.
If you want a new direction for an old face the anime has a wide repertory of characters that were poorly handled or unfinished for you to pick, but out of all of them you think it is a good idea to risk one of the few that had a good closure?
It is a risky gamble where you have too much to lose and too little to win. Did you ever watch a masterpiece that you thought it couldn't be any better, but then someone decided to stretch it with unnecessary sequels and ended up spoiling the overall image of the work? The same logic also works in a lesser scale, it is called "don't fix what is not broken".

 

[Lis]

No, just no. I don't comprehend this logic at all.
If you want a new direction for an old face the anime has a wide repertory of characters that were poorly handled or unfinished for you to pick, but out of all of them you think it is a good idea to risk one of the few that had a good closure?

Oh no, certainly not, i would rather have Misty back, but we are talking about Gary's comeback, how would it be plausible and how could it contribute to the developing of the series. Which is why, if it were to happen, i think that that's what could be done with him in the series, and that's how could he contribute to the anime.