Cydaquil and Ash's Cyndaquil

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I left out "Dawns Cyndaquil" from the title so it won't be a big spoiler to anyone just skimming the forums

Ok So now that Dawn has a Cyndaquil do you think That anytime soon Ash will introduce his Cyndaquil to it? he did this with Bulbasaur after a couple of episodes.

Also this is kinda silly now, Ash's Cyndaquil is becoming far more bland. First he lost his unique trait of not being able to light his flame right away but compared to Dawns Cyndaquil there is no way his "baby" persona can hold up anymore (although it is far older than several other pokemon I know...like any that hatched and probably Brocks bonsly).

Do you think this new Cyndaquil will have any impact on Ash's Cyndaquil?
 
no, hopefully.

there's no need to do what they've done with bulbasaur, back in hoenn.

they can come up with something better than recycling, reallyyyy.
 
Ash didn't even mention his Cyndaquil in the ep Dawn got hers, so I'd say no.

Ash's Johto Pokemon were Ash's least popular team in the series. Unless the writers plan to redeem them in the eyes of the fanbase, we're probably not going to see much of them. I do however think they'll get to be used in at least one Frontier Brain battle.
 
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I must admitt I am more and more dissapointed with Dawn's team. First Piloswine, Ice type, something they should have lessened in Contest, but no, instead they gave Ice type Pokémon to main coordinator. Then they get rid off Ambipom and if this itself is not bad enough they gave her very lame excuse to leave, the lamest Pokémon ever get. And now, they repeat May's pattern and gave Dawn Johto starter. Well, at least it's not Chikorita, but I am still dissapointed anyway.
And not only because of that, I am also dissapointed because my hopes towards Ash's Cyndaquil come back after Sinnoh, evolve twice and finally save us from Charizard's time of fame we've got at the end of Johto and Kanto BF and it was lame both times. But now I am affraid this means writers gave us clear hint they never plan for any of Ash's fire type to surpass Charizard and that's sad for me. Well, at least there are chances for Totodile to evolve twice and finally replace that overpowered turtle. I can still hope.
 
I doubt it. Ash's Johto pokemon were not remotely popular enough to make a cameo appearance outside Ash going back to Oak's.
Besides, even if Ash does somehow remember half of the pokemon that he Oaked and he decides to show his Cyndaquil, it wouldn't make sense to have two pokemon of the same appearance and personality to be in the same place as once. There has to be a difference between these Pokemon if they were shown together. And right now, there is none.
 
I don't argee with Boron are Scott because you both are very wrong.Ash's Johto pokemon were remotely popular and they were seen when Ash came back from Hoenn,they are just as important like the rest of Ash Oak pokemon, the Johto starters were never the least popular team of Ash's they were really damn popular in the series and the same for Cyndaquil who was really a strong fire type that did not need to evolve.
 
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Scott85 said:
Ash didn't even mention his Cyndaquil in the ep Dawn got hers, so I'd say no.
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He didn't mention his Bulba in the ep May got hers
I don't even get why it's so important for the two to meet, they'll anyway probably meet in Pallet after Sinnoh

Ash's Johto Pokemon were Ash's least popular team in the series.
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Not really, maybe with forums members but most of the target audience couldn't careless about what you like to complain about
Most of the young kids probably like the best the Poké that are heavily featured in the newest games - which now are HGSS

we're probably not going to see much of them.
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By the end of Sinnoh, Ash's Sinnoh team will have the same amount of screen time the Hoenn team had (and even more, since Torkoal and Glalie didn't come to BF)
If the hints at Ash's winning the league will be right - then the Sinnoh team might also get the honor to win a league for Ash
After all of that, they'll want to refresh Ash's team a little for the next 2 years or so in the wait for next gen

I really think at least Toto coming back to the team is pretty obvious

save us from Charizard's time of fame
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I think Infernape is more likely for this
At least we can hope for Toto... Ash still doesn't have a fully evolved water starter (and he might have two fire when Monferno evolve) so Feraligatr could be nice

Ash's Johto pokemon were not remotely popular enough
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They were
And they'll get more popular now when HGSS is released and kids get excited for it
 
During that time, maybe, but compare it to how popular Ash's other fire starters were.

We all know how popular Charizard was, and look at how popular Monferno is currently. Charizard and Monferno actually have huge storylines that went on over the course of their respective regions, with Charizard refusing to obey and Monferno being connected to Paul. Cyndaquil didn't get anything like that, its trouble getting its flame lit was solved in a single ep.

Compared to Charizard and Monferno, Cyndaquil is by far Ash's least popular fire starter.
 
emanuellburnell said:
I don't argee with Boron are Scott because you both are very wrong.Ash's Johto pokemon were remotely popular and they were seen when Ash came back from Hoenn,they are just as important like the rest of Ash Oak pokemon, the Johto starters were never the least popular team of Ash's they were really damn popular in the series and the same for Cyndaquil who was really a strong fire type that did not need to evolve.
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I know that the Johto pokemon were popular but only back in Johto. Johto ended over 300 episodes ago. The majority of Ash's pokemon that he caught in Johto haven't been seen for over 200 episodes. I don't even know if Ash remembers whether or not he has the pokemon that he Oaked. Hell, all he said when Johto was mentioned that "it took him back."
The proof is in the pudding- they decide to introduce the Johto starters through Kazunari, Kotone, and Dawn.
 
Its actually been over 300 now.

AG was 191 episodes, DP is so far 145 episodes. Add those two together and its about 350 episodes.

We saw Ash's old Pokemon very briefly in those Pallet eps after the Hoenn league, but they didn't really do anything. Then when Ash came home from Battle Frontier, he didn't see any of his old Pokemon.

So yeah, if the last time Ash used his Johto Pokes was the Gary and Harrison matches in the Johto league...its been around 350 episodes and 8 years since they were used in the show.

My my, how time flies. Its almost hard to believe its been 8 years since Johto originally ended.
 
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I know that the Johto pokemon were popular but only back in Johto. Johto ended over 300 episodes ago.
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And now with HGSS Johto "start" once again and with it the Johto mascots being popular again
Like it or not, they're now heavily advertising Johto and kids are likely to get excited by the new games HGSS (a lot of the target audience didn't even play the original GSC so for them it's a brand new fresh game)

The majority of Ash's pokemon that he caught in Johto haven't been seen for over 200 episodes.
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That's another reason why he should use them
Also, since Johto wasn't the focus in the show for so long, it'd almost feel like seeing new Pokémon when Ash will use them again (especially if they get new attacks and evolve - which can also correct past mistakes people always complain about)

The proof is in the pudding- they decide to introduce the Johto starters through Kazunari, Kotone, and Dawn.
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That's like saying that random episode in AG with the Kanto and Hoenn starters would prevent May getting a Bulba yet she got it a few eps later... and the beginning of next saga she got ANOTHER of these starters (I really wonder if Dawn will later get Chiko too...)
 
Piplup said:
And now with HGSS Johto "start" once again and with it the Johto mascots being popular again
Like it or not, they're now heavily advertising Johto and kids are likely to get excited by the new games HGSS (a lot of the target audience didn't even play the original GSC so for them it's a brand new fresh game)



That's another reason why he should use them
Also, since Johto wasn't the focus in the show for so long, it'd almost feel like seeing new Pokémon when Ash will use them again (especially if they get new attacks and evolve - which can also correct past mistakes people always complain about)



That's like saying that random episode in AG with the Kanto and Hoenn starters would prevent May getting a Bulba yet she got it a few eps later... and the beginning of next saga she got ANOTHER of these starters (I really wonder if Dawn will later get Chiko too...)
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1): "Brand fresh new game" means a brand new assortment of starters. Like they're going to recycle Ash's old hand me downs... We'll be lucky if we see them outside the cameo at Oak's ranch.
2): No reason for Ash to be using the old recycled Johto starters if they are just going to give them to Dawn. I mean, even if Ash did manage to use his Kanto pokemon at the end of Advanced Generation, does it mean Ash will use his Johto starters soon? Fat chance of that happening.
3): Dawn may very well get a grass-type pokemon, but a starter? And a Chikorita? Quite possible, considering how we need a Chikorita since all the others evolved.
 
May getting Bulbasaur and Squirtle didn't prevent Ash from using his own ones
And Dawn only has Cynda... so I don't know what "them" you're talking about... even if she gets Chiko later there's still Toto left...

They'll have to refresh Ash's team after so much time... the Sinnoh team by the end of Sinnoh will have as much and even more episodes than the Hoenn team had

The whole AG was about 190 eps... Hoenn alone was about 130
Monferno is clearly going to have more episodes than Torkoal had
Gliscor I think already have more episodes than Glalie

If DP ends around episode 180-200 as expected then that means Grotle/Sceptile, Corphish/Buizel and Staraptor/Swellow will all have about the same amount of episodes

After 4 years of Ash having the same team, they WILL make a change
After 130 eps in Hoenn they didn't even keep Ash's token fire type and got rid of another Poké too (Torkoal and Glalie)
It might happen again and in this case it makes sense Ash will take Toto back to his team
It'll be redeeming for one of the most neglected Poké Ash have, it'll help advertise HGSS, it'll be very nice to see a Poké back on the team after so long... just why not?
And Cynda/Bayleef can at least be used a little if not on team...
 
I personally hope that since Cyndaquil is now part of the cast, and Bayleaf was far too over-done, that maybe this leaves room for Totodile to come back.

I don't see Kazunari sticking around for long so his totodile might be outta the picture.
 
D558 said:
I personally hope that since Cyndaquil is now part of the cast, and Bayleaf was far too over-done, that maybe this leaves room for Totodile to come back.

I don't see Kazunari sticking around for long so his totodile might be outta the picture.
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At the same time, Bayleaf was really funny and enjoyable to me. Totodile would be good though. Seems like a nice species overall and sometimes cute too.
 
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