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As if the controversy over the hijab wasn't enough already, what with children being refused permission to participate with sporting events.

Police said they received a call from a man who said he'd just killed his daughter.

The victim's father, Muhammad Parvez, 57, was arrested at the scene. He will appear in court on Tuesday and face murder charges.

Aqsa Parvez's friends told CBC News that the teen had been having arguments with her father because he allegedly wanted her to wear a traditional hijab.

"She kinda wanted to go a different way from the way her family wanted her to go," said one friend.
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A slain Muslim teen whose father has been charged with second-degree murder apparently chafed at the prospect of wearing traditional religious garb, but members of the Islamic community warn against anyone using the tragedy to vilify the head scarf known as the hijab.

"I don't want the public to think that this is really an Islamic issue or an immigrant issue," said Mohamed Elmasry of the Canadian Islamic Congress. "It is a teenager issue."
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What has priority, Freedom of Religion, or Freedom of Choice? The Right to life, liberty, and security of person? Can they possibly be compared? Will there ever be a balance? Is this only an issue because it involves a different religion in the predominantly Christian west?

"[The hijab] has taken on proportions larger than life and that's misplaced," Ahsan said.

"When you come across parents who think that wearing that piece of fabric on their head somehow makes them more spiritual or more [of a] practising Muslim, I think that's a fallacy and it causes needless conflict in the family."

What's more important, said Ahsan, is that a young woman, or any Muslim, adheres to the core values of their faith and what the hijab represents: dignity, protection and grace.

What troubles Ahsan is girls who wear the hijab but also skin-tight or revealing clothing.

"To me that is farther away from the Islamic concept of a hijab than a girl who is not wearing a scarf but wears looser clothing."
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Can an intermediate ever be reached? There is so much strife already in the world, do we really need to add more over different interpretations of the same religion?
 
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Funny how it's always women who are the victims with this. You never hear about some Jewish family killing their son because he won't wear the skullcap.

Anyway, at least they caught the bastard.
 
Blackjack Palazzo said:
Funny how it's always women who are the victims with this. You never hear about some Jewish family killing their son because he won't wear the skullcap.

Anyway, at least they caught the bastard.
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He didn't even leave the scene of the crime, AND they already knew who killed her. Of course they were going to catch him.

And she was killed because she WANTED to wear it, not because she DIDN'T want to. Don't think I've EVER heard of someone being killed by their family because they WANTED to do something traditional. Being killed by an angry mob, sure, but not family.
 
Wherever you find hyper-conservative traditionalism, you will find a nutjob who consider breaking the custom to be unthinkable treason, and will react in most devastating ways. Islam and the hijab are in this no different than any other group of traditionalist on the face of the planet.

Sentence him to the harshest penalty possible, watch the other traditionalist groups -regardless of religion - carefully, and hope for the best.

(And of course it's always the girl. Traditionalist religious groups are the last refuge of the Patriarchy, where women are expected to be good and obedient follower of Teh Man)
 
You know, I hate to say it but I'm the kinda guy that like an eye for an eye. However he killed his daughter they should kill him the very same way just to see how he likes it. That guys must have been a real ass though to kill someone because of a freakin headscarf.
 
Fortunately, Canadia has no death sentence.

Send him to jail instead.

With Bubbah :-D
 
Evil Figment said:
Fortunately, Canadia has no death sentence.

Send him to jail instead.
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Of course, it takes much more money to keep people in jail. And then they get any time from sentencing they've already spent in jail during the trial off. Then they can get 60% of that slashed off too for good behavior, even though many of them reoffend anyway. Add that into prison shortages and hey, a 10 year sentence may end up being only 3 years, possibly even less.
 
Yeah, but the problem with death sentence (in general, in this specific case it wouldn't be much of one) is that you end up hanging innocents.

Not acceptable.
 
Misty said:
I'd just like to say: New Jersey ftw
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This is where I make the obligatory mention that New Jersey, despite having less than a quarter of Canada's population (8 vs 33 millions), managed to have well over two third the number of murders (427 to 605) in 2006...

It would take a lot of nutjobs like this guy to make New Jersey FTW a valid argument :p
 
System Error said:
Of course, it takes much more money to keep people in jail. And then they get any time from sentencing they've already spent in jail during the trial off. Then they can get 60% of that slashed off too for good behavior, even though many of them reoffend anyway. Add that into prison shortages and hey, a 10 year sentence may end up being only 3 years, possibly even less.
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That's why I support the Chinese execution system. The day after your found guilty, they take you out to a field, shoot you in the head, then charge your family for the cost of the bullet. None of this spending years getting free room and board from the taxpayers for years and years crap that's so prominent here in the states.
 
And entirely too many innocents getting executed because of poor lawyers, crooked law enforcement people, and plenty of other reasons.

Sorry, stupid idea.
 
Evil Figment said:
And entirely too many innocents getting executed because of poor lawyers, crooked law enforcement people, and plenty of other reasons.

Sorry, stupid idea.
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But there are other things to consider, though. Both extreme sides of the argument have their facts and their flaws. With no death penalty, as you mentioned, there is the risk of innocent people getting executed for one reason or another. But, there is the risk of prisoners getting out and reoffending, which is ironic in the case of the Canadian legal system, given how it is based around reform and how ineffective it seems to be, as most seem to either show no remorse through it or just go through with the reform training and reoffend anyway. Even in the Canadian legal system, dangerous offenders (who are in prison indefinitely, as "life sentences" are only 25 years) can get the opportunity for parole every seven years.

The right way to do things, in my opinion, is to find a balance between the two stances of those for and against capital punishment. There's no doubt we need obstructions to protect aginst executing the innocent, but we need to deal with reoffenders or those who are legitmate dangers to society effectively as well that's easy on the wallet.
 
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