Did Lysandre really die in XY and will we see him in a third version?

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Do you guys think that Lysandre really died in XY and will we see him in XY2/Y2 or XZ/YZ or whatever 3rd verion GF comes up with as head of TF.
 
I think he turned into a rainbow after getting the Skittles knocked out of his ass from the Ultimate Weapon.

In all seriousness though, I think it may or may not depend on which version you played. He was obviously buried alive in both versions, and it's theorized that what happened to AZ has happened to him as well... and that's being given immortality by the energy from the Weapon. But I've often wondered if the effects from whichever Legendary was used to power the Weapon would dictate on what happened to him. His dialogue before activating the final blow of the Weapon does differ between versions, and I personally think that's worth taking into account. In X he says he'll grant the player and their friends immortality(since Xerneas represents life), while in Y he says he'll make them feel the true power of the Weapon(Yveltal is death/destruction).

But on the other hand, aside from the Legendaries, the Weapon itself functions the same way in both versions: both suck energy from 'mons to activate, both were used to resurrect a Pokémon, both were then used to wipe out a large population of people and 'mons, and both gave AZ the ability of immortality.

My personal opinion? If you're buried alive, you're just as good as dead. I think that if we do see him again in the next game(s), it's going to be like how we were able to find and battle N inside Team Plasma's old castle in the post-game of B2W2. Maybe we somehow, for some reason, find our way inside Team Flare's old HQ underneath Geosenge Town and we get to battle an immortal Lysandre post-game.
 
In Y, he is probably dead, yeah.

And even if in X he was granted immortality, that wouldn't do him a whole lot of good as a puddle of smushed organs buried under a mountain of boulders. At that point the only question that matters is whether he remains conscious in that state or not... I suspect not.
 
Endolise said:
In Y, he is probably dead, yeah.

And even if in X he was granted immortality, that wouldn't do him a whole lot of good as a puddle of smushed organs buried under a mountain of boulders. At that point the only question that matters is whether he remains conscious in that state or not... I suspect not.
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What if he really is conscious, and Malva fused him to some machine to restore him back? In Psycho-Pass, a guy had replaced every single part of his body with elaborate machines except his brain and lived as a cyborg. Looking at Lysandre's final battle model with all those applications, it doesn't sound too farfetched.
 
Immortality does not mean invulnerability. Immortality simply means you can't die of natural causes (age, illness, starvation, sleep-deprivation, asphyxiation etc.) but you can still be killed (murder, crushed to death, etc.).

Lysandre was likely made immortal in both versions because of the radiation of the Ultimate Weapon, same as AZ and Floette.

You, Shauna and Serena/Calem were all standing inches away from him when the Ultimate Weapon buried the HQ. If you got out, there is no way he didn't get out. He definitely didn't seem suicidal nor did he seem like the type to let himself die out of defeat or remorse (which he didn't show whatsoever), so he wouldn't have stayed behind for any reason, though his mechanical get-up would have made him lag a bit behind you all.

Also, we don't know if the entire HQ was buried. We know the chamber of Xerneas and Yveltal was because it was directly below the weapon, and we know the shockwaves of the blast made the Geosenge entrance collapse on itself. But we don't know if the rest of the HQ (the viewing window room, the elevator, the maze) were left unharmed. Nor do we know if the HQ somehow had a hidden entrance/exit somewhere else.

So, no. Lysandre didn't die no matter what version you played. But whether or not we'll see him again... That's a different story.
 
That'd be kinda badass if he came back as some sort of half-cyborg. If he couldn't destroy humanity and then rebuild it with the Weapon and Team Flare, maybe he'll try doing it all himself.
 
I really hope he died.....I think it would b fitting that way instead of it just all of a sudden being " Oh Lysandre was alive this whole time?!?!?!" If he was alive then it would almost b like he got away with trying to kill the main character in Y and make the main character suffer by being immortal in X. So to that avail I hope he doesn't show up in the next game...at least not as a live character....maybe in flashbacks?
 
If Lysandre does return in future games, I don't think he'll be returning as the main villian like he did in X/Y. Sycamore seemed to have some level of faith in him, even after all that he did.
 
Assuming he wasn't crushed to the point of death, in X, he's gonna be trapped in the rubble forever. In Y, he starves. Simple as that.
 
I think the machine exploded in X, instead of giving him immortality. And given that nothing's been announced, he's dead Jim.
 
thatd be fun if he returned like Frieza and Cooler in DBZ as Mecha Lysandre :D

And then future Red comes back from the future with the help of Dialga and cuts him in half with an Aegislash :)
 
Jammy2A said:
thatd be fun if he returned like Frieza and Cooler in DBZ as Mecha Lysandre :D

And then future Red comes back from the future with the help of Dialga and cuts him in half with an Aegislash :)
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And then his Aegislash gains over 9,000 EXP afterwards.
 
In Y he could have died but you can find a surviving Team Flare grunt post game so why would he just stay there and watch you and your friends run out?

Since I believe the next game will be about redemption, he'll probably come back and might have been converted to good by Sycamore. He'd be a bit of a waste of a character if he's killed off and the way Sycamore talks to you afterwards about saving him, I doubt killing him is saving him.

Lysandre might be in hiding and Sycamore knows where he is and is helping reform him. Or he does a really redeeming deed in the next game.

Plus, if he became immortal, why the hell would he stay buried under the ruble?! Either Sycamore or a Team Flare member would have surly gotten him out, especially with how well respected he was among his team!
 
Lysson said:
In Y he could have died but you can find a surviving Team Flare grunt post game so why would he just stay there and watch you and your friends run out?
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No reason to assume that every Flare grunt was in Geosenge when the Weapon was fired.

Lysson said:
Plus, if he became immortal, why the hell would he stay buried under the ruble?! Either Sycamore or a Team Flare member would have surly gotten him out, especially with how well respected he was among his team!
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Unless the boulders crushed him into a puddle.
 
look up the And I must scream entry on TVtropes's page for XY, that will clear the confusion at least for X, in Y he did simply die.
or in other words, he was implied to have become immortal due to being near Xerneas, and then got buried underneath all the rubble, but since he's supposedly immortal, he's trapped there with no way out except thinking about his deeds until the far far far future when either it's dug up or erosion kicks in.
 
He got out of the first incident alive, but was killed by a TCG player due to his plot to break the TCG metagame with a broken card.
 
AgentRosa said:
That'd be kinda badass if he came back as some sort of half-cyborg. If he couldn't destroy humanity and then rebuild it with the Weapon and Team Flare, maybe he'll try doing it all himself.
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I would love to see this happen too. But i Just hope he refine his plans during and have more interesting ideas than destroy humanity.
I hope to see Malva and Xerosic involved in the story. Something like Malva redeeming herself to save her ass. Or being a traitress, she is afraid and and joins the hero when she learns that Lysandre is still alive.
And Xerosic just pretending being good but being involved with Lysandre "resuscitation".

Lufenian said:
If Lysandre does return in future games, I don't think he'll be returning as the main villian like he did in X/Y. Sycamore seemed to have some level of faith in him, even after all that he did.
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Lysson said:
Since I believe the next game will be about redemption, he'll probably come back and might have been converted to good by Sycamore. He'd be a bit of a waste of a character if he's killed off and the way Sycamore talks to you afterwards about saving him, I doubt killing him is saving him.

Lysandre might be in hiding and Sycamore knows where he is and is helping reform him. Or he does a really redeeming deed in the next game.

Plus, if he became immortal, why the hell would he stay buried under the ruble?! Either Sycamore or a Team Flare member would have surly gotten him out, especially with how well respected he was among his team!
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Would be really interesting the professor having a role in the story besides helping the hero.
Since he is Lysandre old friend, besides everything he had done, Sycamore could be the one still believes in him as a person and knows his hideout . This can lead to Lysandre redemption or Sycamore being an naive idealist in the end, or both. Something like Naruto-Sasuke relationship, but please, developed much better
 
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Probably alive. Wasn't aware he died... cuz X, I guess.

I imagine he'll appear in a third version.
 
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