Did Misty and Brock know about Squirtle being Gary’s first Pokemon?

[Paulisthebest]

This is just a general question that I thought of once I really paid attention to this scene. I was watching the match in the Silver Conference when Gary sent out Blastoise and Misty and Brock said something about it.

Misty: “Is that…”

Brock: “The Squirtle that Gary received from Pro. Oak at the beginning of his journey, yeah that’s the one.”

Considering that in Kanto, two of Gary’s badges were the Boulder and Cascade Badge I think that Brock battled against Squirtle, but Misty’s sisters may have been the ones to fight Gary. They mentioned that some trainers from Pallet easily beat them one after the other. Misty probably had left the gym at that time and caught up to Ash so I don’t think that she could have known about Gary’s first Pokemon at the time.

What do you think?

 

[Magmortar123]

I think it might have just been that the writer's forgot about it or something TBH. Although I do agree that Brock might've fought against squirtle.

 

[Musashi]

http://dogasu.bulbagarden.net/comparisons/jouto/ep271.html

Here are the lines where 4Kids pretty much destroys the final scene of the episode. This happens right after Shigeru calls out his Kamex:

Misty: "Brock! Could that be...?"
Brock: "The same Squirtle that Gary originally received from Professor Oak? Yeah, that's the one."

Remember way back in the first episode, when Satoshi asks Shigeru what pokemon he got from Orchid-Hakase? Shigeru refused to tell him, and for 269 episodes, neither Satoshi, any of his traveling companions, nor any of us knew which pokemon Shigeru got from his grandfather. With this episode, however, we all find out at the same time.

That's where the problem is. In the dub, Brock acts as if he knew all along, and the tone of his voice seems to say that it's common knowledge that Gary's starter pokemon was a Squirtle. In the Japanese version, Kasumi asks how he got one, and Takeshi wonders if the Kamex Shigeru has could be a Zenigame that he got from Orchid-Hakase. He doesn't just sort of know the way he does in the dub, and his ignorance in the Japanese version makes the revelation of Shigeru's starter pokemon that much more special.

So thank you, 4Kids, for ruining one of the big revelations of the end of the series.