Digimon Ship thread: Why did the writers go with Matt/Sora?

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Wasn't Tie/Sora way popular even in its second season? Were the Digimon writers on crack while writing that imaginary couple suddenly?
 
FloorMaster said:
Actually yes they were on crack.
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LOL That's what I thought XD
But yah that really disapointed me, Tie/Sora was written all the way from season one and even had hints in season two. But than suddenly out pops Sora/Matt and than boome they become cannon.
 
I thought it was intensely realistic. Sure, maybe Sora had a crush on Tai, and vice versa. But it's a very likely outcome: childhood crushes can be gotten over as you grow older, mature, and find cuter boys.

It sounds shallow, but that's life. Nothing was done in Adventure, romance-wise. And then in 02, the first team's growing up, about to become adolescents. Tastes change, outlooks change, eyes shift looking at the boy you crushed on and now see him as one of your best friends, and the guy you probably weren't very close to is the one you find yourself blushing around.
 
I was more expecting TK and Kari to get together, but that didn't happen, either. And then they allow Yolei to have Ken. I guess they wanted to be mostly unexpected with the relationships.
 
The entire 02 epilogue was written in a crack-addled haze.

@Lunamon: while in RL people chop and change all the time, this is still fiction we're talking about. You have to lay a certain amount of groundwork first if you want to bait-and-switch with the pairings. For example, in House M.D., the switch from House/Cameron to Chase/Cameron made sense, IMO, because C/C had been foreshadowed ever since the beginning, H/C had always been portrayed as being a bit off-kilter, and there was a 13-episode arc leading up to Chase and Cameron getting together. But the Tai/Sora/Matt business had no groundwork laid of any kind - one day, Matt and Sora suddenly liked each other, and that was that. There was no attempt to show changing motives. The idea that the characters were growing up and moving on from their old childish crushes was never actually shown to us in canon - it's a plausible fanwank, but a fanwank nonetheless.

I like M/S a lot as a pairing, but it was badly written in the show itself.
 
Ashfangirl17 said:
Wasn't Tie/Sora way popular even in its second season? Were the Digimon writers on crack while writing that imaginary couple suddenly?
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WHAT? when did this happen? i stopped watching partway through series 3 because it was just soooo bad IMO. Was this season 2?
 
I hated the epilogue for Digimon Adventure 02...they should seriously consider re-writing it with a new season...

I was confused with Matt/Sora myself, but being the annoying nine-year-old I was I didn't care for shipping...unless it was TK/Kari of course...
 
Ah, Sora, my first Anime crush. :p

Eh...no, I am not jealous that she went with Matt!
 
Satoshi Ketchum said:
WHAT? when did this happen? i stopped watching partway through series 3 because it was just soooo bad IMO. Was this season 2?
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It happened at the end of season two.

I still say the ship came out of no where. Matt/Sora never once showed feelings for each other in the begining, maybe if they had shown feelings between the two I would belive it a little but they showed nothing till the end of season two bah. At least Yollie and Ken makes some what sense, I mean I wouldn't have paired them off personally but at least they showed hints between them to where it made sense. Don't even get me started on T.K and Kari, that had plenty of hints but did the writers do any thing about it? No. I have to agree with one of the posers the writers were on crack while writing the whole ending to season two.
 
I guess they were kinda going for the realistic approach that childhood crushes don't last when you grow up.

But yeah much of who's was paired off with who was out of the blue.
 
Ashfangirl17 said:
It happened at the end of season two.

I still say the ship came out of no where. Matt/Sora never once showed feelings for each other in the begining, maybe if they had shown feelings between the two I would belive it a little but they showed nothing till the end of season two bah. At least Yollie and Ken makes some what sense, I mean I wouldn't have paired them off personally but at least they showed hints between them to where it made sense. Don't even get me started on T.K and Kari, that had plenty of hints but did the writers do any thing about it? No. I have to agree with one of the posers the writers were on crack while writing the whole ending to season two.
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Jo-Jo said:
@Lunamon: while in RL people chop and change all the time, this is still fiction we're talking about. You have to lay a certain amount of groundwork first if you want to bait-and-switch with the pairings. For example, in House M.D., the switch from House/Cameron to Chase/Cameron made sense, IMO, because C/C had been foreshadowed ever since the beginning, H/C had always been portrayed as being a bit off-kilter, and there was a 13-episode arc leading up to Chase and Cameron getting together. But the Tai/Sora/Matt business had no groundwork laid of any kind - one day, Matt and Sora suddenly liked each other, and that was that. There was no attempt to show changing motives. The idea that the characters were growing up and moving on from their old childish crushes was never actually shown to us in canon - it's a plausible fanwank, but a fanwank nonetheless.

I like M/S a lot as a pairing, but it was badly written in the show itself.
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Okay, sooooo...what?

02 wasn't about the old team though. Adventure had six pre-teens and an 8 year old running around trying not to get eaten and generally doing a lot to save the world. I saw vague signs of Tai/Sora in 01; that was 01.

But in 02, there were no signs of any romance anywhere with the 01 kids (unless you count Jun's fangirlism over Matt), before the Christmas arc. They had everything happen to them in the background. And did Tai seem that miffed when, at the concert, Sora told him she was going to see Matt to give him...what were they, cookies?

He was slightly baffled, but not shocked or upset, as if he'd just seen his dream girl run off with his best friend. And when it became general knowledge he and Sora were dating, Tai didn't appear jealous. What does that say for all those hints in 01?

I'm not fond of Matt/Sora in the least, but I thought it was fine, considering they managed to show something of a hint for /secondary characters/ (which Cameron and Chase are not) before it became official(ly background and unimportant information to the current situation at hand). I liked that it happened in the background; it didn't detract from Davis et al, or the plot.
 
Okay, sooooo...what?
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Pardon?

02 wasn't about the old team though.
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All the more reason not to mess around with the pairings involving the older kids.

And did Tai seem that miffed when, at the concert, Sora told him she was going to see Matt to give him...what were they, cookies?

He was slightly baffled, but not shocked or upset, as if he'd just seen his dream girl run off with his best friend. And when it became general knowledge he and Sora were dating, Tai didn't appear jealous. What does that say for all those hints in 01?
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How does that disprove my argument, which is that the writers switched over from Tai/Sora to Matt/Sora at the last minute? The 01 hints are as strong as they always were; they don't become retrospectively weaker if the writers made Tai do a 180 later on, any more than Cameron's eventual interest in Chase proves that she was never interested in House.

I like Matt/Sora and I don't like Tai/Sora, so this isn't crazy shipper talk or anything.
 
Ok, there was this episode where Matt and Sora revealed their love towards each other, but I don’t think it aired in either the US or the otha countries apart from Japan obviously. I think it was a valentines one, but I forgot. Read it on Wiki, that place knows everything! And honestly I love Tai and I think he should of paired up with Sora instead, but Digimon's so unpredictable!

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Matt/Sora was kind of unexpected, but I agree with what some others have said, it was more realistic. Also, in retrospect, Adventures doesn't really seem that shippy for Tai/Sora to me anymore.

I can also forgive them a little for not having much on screen development for this pairing, due to the time jumps. There was what, a two or three year gap between Adventures and 02? A lot of stuff could have happened in that time.
 
True but I would of liked it if Tai and Sora went together.
 
they where on crack and drunken, WHY WHY ?? Taiora was far more popular, and Yolei with KEn ? Hmm, They where on a Lindsay Lohan Crack, because those ninfomatic (thats not a word, comes from ninfomania, a spanish word) guys had 3 kids, 3 KIDS !! and they didnt even did the Hikari/Tk ship, SUPER LINDSAY LOHAN CRACK I SAY !!!
 
anime_aficionada said:
Ok, there was this episode where Matt and Sora revealed their love towards each other, but I don’t think it aired in either the US or the otha countries apart from Japan obviously. I think it was a valentines one, but I forgot. Read it on Wiki, that place knows everything!
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There's your problem, you believe everything you read on Wiki. It's edited by anyone, so people can put in anything they want.

Such a Japan-only episode doesn't exist, in any of the Digimon seasons.

And how does having three kids--not an unreasonable amount--equate with "crack" and being a nymphomaniac?
 
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