Do most Pokemon want trainers?

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In one of the first eps, the Pokedex says that wild pokemon are often jealous of trained Pokemon, but why? It seems like an easy answer is that Pokemon is a rather more idealistic world, wherein almost all humans love nature, and it loves them back. But this implies that most Pokemon just want to live with people who like them. Also, it's odd that very few pokemon are ever seen to particularly dislike battling since it's the main 'sport' (or perhaps career) of their world. In theory, battling is rather like cockfighting, but the immorality of it is removed with the simple "oh Pokemon love to battle" excuse. And doesn't it seem odd that creatures who seem to love fighting so much didn't wipe out humans before they'd ever get the chance to consider training them (or discovering fire) out of pure aggression? Do wild Pokemon enact mock battles in forest clearings or whatever? And if Pokemon prey upon one another (as it is mentioned on several occasions that they do) how do trainers make ones like Pidgeot overcome the urge to kill?
So basically, how does everyone thing training works? Does everyone think it's 'humane'? How do Pokemon think of humans?
 
katie310117 said:
And if Pokemon prey upon one another (as it is mentioned on several occasions that they do) how do trainers make ones like Pidgeot overcome the urge to kill?
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Probably the same way dogs do it. Even domesticated dogs will have that urge, and let's not even get started on cats.

Pokemon in the wild are shown to do pretty much the same things the average trainer will have them do, ie, battle every so often but mostly just hang out.

In the games, Doctor Footprint tells you sometimes that your pokemon speak of "getting to go places they can't go on their own". And as we know, most pokemon live in very limited areas.
 
1. Pokemon are not that aggressive. I mean they fight every so now and again but they don't fight to the death.
2. No, I don't think so.
3. Much the same way most humans don't go around hunting animals. They don't need to, therefore don't.
4. I don't know, I guess they just, train.
5. What ever works for them, but who are we to judge how a fictional world should operate?
6. I suppose they all have a different opinion of them.
 
Huh! I think it would actually depend on what verse you're referring to. The anime shows them as like civil and human-like, whereas the game (and the manga to a certain extent) actually elaborated more on the idea of a "wild" versus "tame" I think.

I'm not sure about it now, but in the first gen, they seemed to have kept wild-fighting to a minimum. But the manga shows it a lot more.
 
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Answering the thread title...I would doubt it, since one of the parts of the game is to catch wild Pokemon, and the very fact that they resist means that they probably don't. At least not initially.

So it's up to the trainer to become friends with the Pokemon and share a bond and that bond makes it "tame".
 
katie310117 said:
In one of the first eps, the Pokedex says that wild pokemon are often jealous of trained Pokemon, but why? It seems like an easy answer is that Pokemon is a rather more idealistic world, wherein almost all humans love nature, and it loves them back. But this implies that most Pokemon just want to live with people who like them. Also, it's odd that very few pokemon are ever seen to particularly dislike battling since it's the main 'sport' (or perhaps career) of their world. In theory, battling is rather like cockfighting, but the immorality of it is removed with the simple "oh Pokemon love to battle" excuse. And doesn't it seem odd that creatures who seem to love fighting so much didn't wipe out humans before they'd ever get the chance to consider training them (or discovering fire) out of pure aggression? Do wild Pokemon enact mock battles in forest clearings or whatever? And if Pokemon prey upon one another (as it is mentioned on several occasions that they do) how do trainers make ones like Pidgeot overcome the urge to kill?
So basically, how does everyone thing training works? Does everyone think it's 'humane'? How do Pokemon think of humans?
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I think wild Pokémon don't like trainers in the begining for the same reason wild animals don't like humans: because they are unknown beings to their natural habitats and put in risk their freedom; but once captured, they learn that trainers let them be free in some kind of way (as they let them fight, which they love, trainers feed their monsters and so on).
I think they didn't wipe out humans because as lonh as they don't get too close, their not a menace to their ordinary lives (is like saying an army of lions will take over the world). But if you get too close, they atatck, as animals do (ask Birch if not XD).
It is CLEARLY stated in-game that Pokémon prey each other, again, as real world animals do. But may be their predator habits are reduced when they are tamed by trainers as they feed them and teach them to fight not until death but just until one is unable to keep on fighting. If they keep attacking a fanted opponent, its trainer just has to call it back to its Poké ball and everything's solved.
 
I think it depends on the pokemon. Some more things Dr. Footprint says in the game are that some pokemon look down on others who have "forgotten the wild" by loving their trainers, and there are also pokemon like Houndoom and Murkrow who seem skeptical of you as a trainer until you really, really bond with them. " ...I, an oft-shunned Houndoom..."

Some species of pokemon may not like trainers as much as others because of the way their species has been treated by people in general.
 
When you look at the Anime, you see a few Pokemon who seem jealous, but others seem to pity the Pokemon, for not being able to be free. I think that all Pokemon would be different, and some prefer having a human companion to others. Sorta like whether a person wants to be inside or outside.
 
If I were a Pokemon, I know I wouldn't want a trainer. I'd prefer to be free. But I'd assume Pokemon are like humans and have different opinions.
 
My guess is no. I'm assuming that's why they usually attack/fight trainers, and struggle to break free from a freshly thrown Pokeball. That's also probably why it takes a while for them to become happy with you.
 
Is this not the idea of the Capture Style? (and to a lesser extent the Poké Ball?) That after being captured, the Trainer's feelings of friendship are conveyed and the Pokémon is tamed?

I would think that not all Pokémon like to fight, however in the wild they would inevitably need to kill to survive, if not because of predators, because they need to eat. Atleast with a Trainer you wouldn't have to kill opponents.
 
Some might, and some might not. Also, that thought about some wild pokemon being jealous... I had Dr.Footprint examine my Infernape, Blaze (who's happiness was at the highest level) and, according to Dr.Footstep, Blaze said "I can see wild pokemon eying us enviously..." But some pokemon say "If I can say there is friendship between Pokémon and people, will Pokémon's friends understand?" That may mean some pokemon don't think humans and pokemon can be friends. Some similar phrases would be "Humans can't understand the cries of Pokémon, nor our feelings.""Others say there are people who aren't very nice to Pokémon. I wonder about Trainer... Will Trainer look after Pokémon nicely? Will I get to go all over with this Trainer? Can we be... Friends?"
 
yea i agree with people who say it depends on the Pokemon.

I assume they struggle from the Pokeball just because they don't know what the hell is happening to them when some strange ball shoots some beam of light at them...

I think some Pokemon want trainers only after seeing and understanding the concept of humans and trainers. When a Pokemon is born in the wild to its natural parents, how could it know enough to wanta trainer.

Only after it meets a human can it want to have a trainer...this has been shown a bunch of times in the anime.

I would chalk up that 'jealousy' thing--which if i remember right, happened in the first episode of the anime--to the anime being new.
 
Firstly (is that a word?), Pokemon can train by themselves but can't learn anything else that can be learned by other enviroments. This is where trainers come in.

Also,
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When thinking about the story and scenario for pokemon, I wanted to make an Ideal world, a world with no war, no energy problems and no inflation or economic problems...
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I think at first, no, but after capture, they get warmed up to the idea. They probably have a much worse view of capturing when they're in the wild; they just see other Pokémon disappear for all they can see. When they get captured they most likely realize what it is and are fine with it. There are, of course, probably exceptions as Pokémon are individuals.
 
As has been pointed out it most certainly depends on the pokémon, but naturally it also has to do with the trainer (nobody wants a mean/bad trainer).
 
"A Pokemon proposed to the others to always be ready to help humans. It asked that Pokemon be ready to appear before humans always. Thus, to this day, Pokemon appear to us if we venture into tall grass." - Pokemon Diamond/Pearl
Although it's a folk story, there's some truth into this. If Pokemon don't want trainers, wouldn't they not appear to us? Would we have to just run after them with nets, like a mere bug catcher? I think this story may be just why Pokemon and Trainers join hands and venture forth into their adventures!
Pokemon may be willing to partner up with humans, but the emotion they feel for the trainer depends on their feelings towards one.
That said, Safari Park Pokemon flee, which may mean they will only stay in battle if the trainer sends out one of their party, and they may see that as a sign of trust.
 
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