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Do people actually want continuity in the Anime?

Do you really (actually) want continuity in the show?

  • Yes

    Votes: 47 95.9%

  • No

    Votes: 2 4.1%
  • Total voters
    49
Mareepy

Mareepy

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This kind of thing is so prominent these days, when games actually did something new, gamer responds with it being not what they liked; when games does the exact same thing, they responds with there is no innovation. What do they even want?

And same applies on this topic, too. When the show completely ignores continuity, people rant about it. And when they actually do something sensible, people rant about it. People hate when Ash repeatedly lose to the guy (I really don't bother to look up his name) in Unova, tons of comment about Ash shouldn't be losing to a newbie so many times. And WHAT NOW? People hate that Ash didn't lose to Shota? WHY? JUST WHY?

And hating on Ash actually posing a threat for a Champion? I remembered people hating on Ash still being a noob after all these years. Now he is finally up to the level, and people hates it? WHAT?

I am the one who pointed out that Malva losing to Alain might be an act. But I am actually hoping Alain won legitimately, because if it is true, when Ash finally beat Alain, Ash is finally up on the level he should be. And now everyone hopes he lose to Alain in the episode later, and the there are people who want him to lose to Alain in the league. WHAT? JUST WHY?

Nothing makes sense. Do you guys really want continuity? Or you guys never wanted it and is just enjoy ranting about it because you want to. I want to know how much people actually wants continuity in the Anime and how much people actually don't want it. Comon, be real, if you don't want it, vote no.
 
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I would just like to point out that the fans complaining about Satoshi being a newbie in one series and the ones complaining about him being too strong in another aren't necessarily the same people. With a fandom as huge and varied as this one you're bound to find opposing views on almost every issue
 
This kind of back and forth complaining isn't really specific to the Pokemon fanbase either. You can find it any fanbase where they'll complain about one thing in a series/movie/whatever and then complain when the exact opposite happens in the next installment. It's true that the complaints aren't necessarily from the same people, especially when a lot of people tend to get in and out of the anime every few years and it's pretty rare for people to stick with the anime for a long period of time in general, but the conflicting complaints can be annoying and confusing.
 
Wait, is Ash actually getting stronger? I've only been asking for this since forever.

BTW, what exactly do you mean by "continuity"? Do you mean "logical character growth" or "stick to the status quo"?
 
You've really allowed yourself to get wound up about this haven't you? Yes, a lot of people have double standards and also (as said above) different people complain about different things.

As for where I stand on this, I am glad we've gotten to see Satoshi grow and get stronger in proportion to the experience he's had over the years. It has been really satisfying, as a viewer of whatever no. years, to watch him pretty much sweep through Kalos.

However, I also love the anime, I love its status quo and I don't want Satoshi to outgrow it. Does that make me a hypocrite? I don't really mind.
 
DracoMan said:
Wait, is Ash actually getting stronger? I've only been asking for this since forever.

BTW, what exactly do you mean by "continuity"? Do you mean "logical character growth" or "stick to the status quo"?
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The continuity I meant here is Ash getting progressively stronger. In other words at the 'logical character growth' department.

They always have the option to give a veteran trainer as Ash's rival, so I don't really see the need in "resetting" Ash. And they kept bringing back Pokemon at Oak's lab, physically into the show, mention or even having a picture of Ash with all his Pokemon at Oak's lab at the last episode of each series. The adventures did happen and the show actually acknowledges that.
 
It's like comic books. Normally a villain like the Joker should have been long dead for his crimes, and a hero like Spiderman would have retired and settle down with Mary Jane to start a family. But no one really wants to kill the Joker because he's too popular and funny to get rid of. Same thing with Peter Parker retiring and starting a family. It's an inherit problem with long-running serials like comics or television shows. Sometimes they regress to go back to the good old days or perhaps the writer of the time had a new idea to take the series then another writer decided that's going too far and takes it to his own direction. One More Day and Infinite Crisis alike.

The best solution I've seen so far to the problem is either a legacy passing the torch method or a continuity reboot.
 
Or the idea I keep pitching, where Ash grows to be champion-level strong and then takes on a protégé.
 
or they could show in future a other young trainer that goes on his journey and wants to beat Ash?
Hmmm? do you think that there is a bigger League between all the existing regions with their smaller Leagues ? a tournament that takes place after o period of time maybe every 6 yesrs? that would be interesting to see.
 
Satoshi can still grow, even if he wins the regional Leagues. The Champion League seems to be something designed only for those who have previously won the regional Leagues, where Satoshi keeps losing. A tournament between nothing but Takuto and Virgil-level opponents seems like a great next step for Satoshi to take without being too much stronger. Remember, Satoshi is still only ten years old. So long as he doesn't even have one year's worth of experience as a trainer the series can constantly play the "this trainer is older than Satoshi, so he's power experienced and powerful" thus always leaving an out for Satoshi to be overcome.

None of these regional Leagues ever have particularly old trainers in them, anyway. Satoshi only ever seems to go up against those his age or slightly older. Have Satoshi fight some older trainers to keep him in line. It'd be a perfect way to avoid ignoring prior series as much as Best Wishes did.
 
Speaking about continuity in the show in general, I'm fine with continuity every now and then if it's something major like Ash's aura powers being useful again (which hasn't happened since DP I think?). However, I've never cared for minor references to old Pokemon or characters, like for instance when people wanted Ash to remember Dawn's Mamoswine specifically when he saw another Mamoswine like 40 episodes ago. It's just not something that interests me at all.
 
I'm that Juan vote. O_O
Anime is only good for having negative continuity if it isn't trying to reach for a certain goal. It doesn't really work in Pokemon because it's more of a slight serious series.
 
SonansuMan said:
I'm that Juan vote. O_O
Anime is only good for having negative continuity if it isn't trying to reach for a certain goal. It doesn't really work in Pokemon because it's more of a slight serious series.
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Huh? Can you clarify what you meant? I read it 5 times already and still have no idea what you were saying.
 
Mareepy said:
Huh? Can you clarify what you meant? I read it 5 times already and still have no idea what you were saying.
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Y'see, most shows with negative continuity tend to be on goofy side because there's not much of a particular goal in them. Pokemon is pretty much the opposite.
 
SonansuMan said:
Y'see, most shows with negative continuity tend to be on goofy side because there's not much of a particular goal in them. Pokemon is pretty much the opposite.
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I think you completely misunderstood this post... negative continuity isn't the topic at all.

I am talking about actual continuity, not negative continuity, as in Ash actually improves over his adventure. I looked up what negative continuity meant and is surprised that you misunderstood the thread completely.
 
Mareepy said:
I think you completely misunderstood this post... negative continuity isn't the topic at all.

I am talking about actual continuity, not negative continuity, as in Ash actually improves over his adventure. I looked up what negative continuity meant and is surprised that you misunderstood the thread completely.
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Ah, I see. My bad. I'll just stop here since I don't want this to be too big of a deal.
 
Yes there should be continuity due to this show relying on so many references to the past that kids might or might not realize but doesn't matter because for Pokemon it works and definitely how far we've come should tell you the amount of stuff we know about the series as a whole and what we been through.
 
Please note: The thread is from 9 years ago.
Please take the age of this thread into consideration in writing your reply. Depending on what exactly you wanted to say, you may want to consider if it would be better to post a new thread instead.
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