Do You Think Ash Really Gonna Face Lucario in the 3rd Badge?

Will Ash Battle Lucario in the 3rd Battle?


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No, he'll face a cherry pie. Now stop creating stupid threads.
 
To be honest, it really isn't a stupid thread. This is a debate that has been waiting to be kindled since the games were first released.

I think he will, but then again, he might not. However, the writers have been sticking to the games moreso than in the previous sagas and this also goes for the gym leaders line ups of pokémon. It will be super exciting to see if anything is said about Lucario by Satoshi . . however, I could see him just being like, "O YA I SAW A LUCARIO ONCE. K LETS BATTLE LOL"
 
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This saga has stuck really close to the real rosters of the gym leaders in the games. Even going so far as to have Gardenia's Roserade have the long cape of a female, which it is a female in the games as well. The only thing is that Roark's Cranidos became a Rampardos. Lucario is already a highest evo state, and it is the feature poke of Maylene's arsenal. If they don't have it, then it will be yet another twist in the DP saga. Not to mention there was some kind of anime art done early in DP that showed the first four gym leaders with their key pokes, and Maylene was with her Lucario.
 
Ash will beat Lucario and unless its a really close match, people will cry "cheap victory" because their precious Lucario will go down to either Chimchar or Buizel or Pikachu.

Ha.
 
Or Mukubird spitting a wet spaghetti at it. That would be an awesome battle.
 
Lucario was shown in some art for the D/P saga, along with some other Gym Leaders and their Pokémon, some time ago.

Sadly, I can't remember what magazine it was in or where I can find the scan.
 
This saga has stuck really close to the real rosters of the gym leaders in the games.
How much can be made of two examples, consisting of six Pokémon altogether? The use of the adverb "really" is quite exaggerated on your part. After all, AG's Roxanne and Brawly also used their Ruby and Sapphire rosters, with Brawly's Makuhita evolving in the re-match. That did not prevent Flannery from later having her second Slugma evolve into Magcargo (before the Gym battle), Norman from having a Slakoth instead of a second Slaking, or Winona from having a shiny Swellow as her main Pokémon (her main Pokémon in the games is Altaria). Furthermore, considering that Liz and Tate were introduced in the anime after Emerald had been released, one might have expected them to use their new team (+Claydol, Xatu); Juan was given Wallace's Ruby and Sapphire team as a weird attempt to mix both characters.

There is no telling what will happen to the rest of the Sinnoh Gym Leaders based on the treatment of the first two. For the record, Wattson did have his Ruby and Sapphire team kept in tact, suggesting that Maylene may do the same in regard to her Diamond and Pearl roster.

Even going so far as to have Gardenia's Roserade have the long cape of a female, which it is a female in the games as well.
Since Generation III, opponent trainers use Pokémon of the same gender as their own, unless that Pokémon is restricted to one gender or no gender at all. It is not the least bit surprising that the anime chooses to stay true to that rule of thumb, although not so much as to follow the games as to avoid deliberately contradicting them on a perfectly acceptable detail; it is the easiest route. It is only now that we can see that thanks to physical differences in some species; in other words, this has nothing to do with knowingly adapting Gardenia's in-game roster.
 
How much can be made of two examples, consisting of six Pokémon altogether? The use of the adverb "really" is quite exaggerated on your part. After all, AG's Roxanne and Brawly also used their Ruby and Sapphire rosters, with Brawly's Makuhita evolving in the re-match. That did not prevent Flannery from later having her second Slugma evolve into Magcargo (before the Gym battle), Norman from having a Slakoth instead of a second Slaking, or Winona from having a shiny Swellow as her main Pokémon (her main Pokémon in the games is Altaria). Furthermore, considering that Liz and Tate were introduced in the anime after Emerald had been released, one might have expected them to use their new team (+Claydol, Xatu); Juan was given Wallace's Ruby and Sapphire team as a weird attempt to mix both characters.

There is no telling what will happen to the rest of the Sinnoh Gym Leaders based on the treatment of the first two. For the record, Wattson did have his Ruby and Sapphire team kept in tact, suggesting that Maylene may do the same in regard to her Diamond and Pearl roster.

Yes, and besides which, even in the first season they kept the first two gym leaders teams intact in their gym battles against Ash (Brock used Geodude and Onix in the rematch, and Misty excluded her Goldeen from the pokemon she used to battle Ash [though, considering that the match was interrupted by Team Rocket, we don't know if she was planning on using Goldeen or not.].) In fact, not counting the OI gym leaders or battle frontier brains (the latter because they aren't really gym leaders.), the only region in the anime where the gym battle roster of the first two Gym Leaders when Fighting Ash WASN'T the same as the Games was Johto (in the games, Falkner used Pidgey and Pidgeotto, whileas in the Anime he used Dodrio and Pidgeot [I don't remember if he used Hoothoot in the gym battle or not.] and Bugsy used one pokemon different from the games in his Battle with Ash. [in the games, he used Kakuna, in the anime, he used Spinarak.].). and technically, Roark's wasn't exactly the same as the games (in the games his Cranidos never evolved, whileas in the anime, it did evolve.).

On-topic: All I can say is "Maybe, Maybe not". I mean, for all I know, Ash could face a similar (note, not same nor entirely different) roster to the games, the exact same roster as the games, or an entirely different roster from the games altogether.
 
the only region in the anime where the gym battle roster of the first two Gym Leaders when Fighting Ash WASN'T the same as the Games was Johto (in the games, Falkner used Pidgey and Pidgeotto, whileas in the Anime he used Dodrio and Pidgeot [I don't remember if he used Hoothoot in the gym battle or not.] and Bugsy used one pokemon different from the games in his Battle with Ash. [in the games, he used Kakuna, in the anime, he used Spinarak.].).
For that matter, the only region in which none of the Gym Leaders used their exact in-game roster was Johto.

Other than what you pointed out (incidentally, Hoothoot was indeed used in the battle), Whitney added Nidorina, Morty omitted one of his two Haunter, Chuck replaced Primeape with Machoke (and made that his main battler instead of Poliwrath), Jasmine omitted one of her two Magnemite, Pryce omitted his Seel, and finally, Clair omitted two of her three Dragonair and added Gyarados.

It may be fair to conclude that Johto was different in that it was part of the original series; the writers only strive to follow the games to a greater extent than usual when it is the beginning of a new series. Their way of doing just that is having a character greatly reminiscent of the game protagonist begin his adventure, as well as having the first few Gym Leaders use a team exactly like that of their game counterparts. As time goes by, they feel freer to adapt the game material less faithfully, if at all.
 
Misty excluded her Goldeen from the pokemon she used to battle Ash [though, considering that the match was interrupted by Team Rocket, we don't know if she was planning on using Goldeen or not.].)

The battle was said to be 2 on 2, so yes, we know she wasn't.
 
Oh God, here you 2 go.

Why the hell are you bringing this crap up? We're talking about DP not Johto, Hoenn, or Kanto, DP. I'm sure they'll keep the same rosters, as they've been doing so previosly and the anime has gotten more closer to the games(besides Galactic, don't start that shit).
 
How do we even know they'll give her a Lucario. She might be given a Riolu instead. If they wanted to, they could have that Riolu evolve sometime during Ash's attempt at getting the cobble badge ala Roark's Cranidos/Rampardos.
 
I didn't say it was exact, just close, which a lot of the gym leaders were in Hoenn. Evolutions and odd coloring don't matter to me. Wallace and Juan use most of the same pokemon anyway, it makes little difference to me. I do find it kind of odd they did that, though. I do believe a better question would be why would they exclude Lucario? I believe the one seen in the movie was just highly skilled, and not really representitive of all of them.
 
I was being sarcastic and mocking the people who still say Satoshi "owns" her.
 
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How do we even know they'll give her a Lucario. She might be given a Riolu instead. If they wanted to, they could have that Riolu evolve sometime during Ash's attempt at getting the cobble badge ala Roark's Cranidos/Rampardos.
They could give her a riolu and have it evolve like i think they did in the manga, i know they at least gave her a riolu, but we pretty much know it's going to evolve. That poster that came out like a year ago had Maylene with a Lucario and Crasher with a Floazel.
 
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