Do you think its strange that TR never remember Arbok/Weezing?

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So many of TR's released Pokemon have gotten flashbacks or cameos of TR remembering them after they left. Yet Arbok/Weezing, their two originals, get no mentions at all?

- James brought up his Victreebel several times in the series, one time he was looking at some wild Weepinbell and said it reminded him of his old Victreebel.

- James remembered Chimecho in that Chingling filler.

- James remembered Cacnea when Barry (I think) told him Gardenia had taught it learn Drain Punch.

- Jessie thought about Dustox again the ep after she released it.


Yet Arbok/Weezing, their two "originals" that were with them for 270+ episodes, get no references, cameos, or flashbacks whatsoever. The most we got is Jessie using an Arbok-flute during a contest, but that's so minor.

I just can't believe the writers never had them reference Arbok/Weezing again. Their two original Pokemon, and they're just ignored and forgotten.
 
Jessie just used an Arbok flute in her last contest.
 
Gliscor'd said:
- James brought up his Victreebel several times in the series, one time he was looking at some wild Weepinbell and said it reminded him of his old Victreebel.
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I'll give you the random mention concerning Weepinbell, but most of the other times it was brought up was because of its similarities to James' new flycatcher, Carnivine. Which made it relevant to remind the audience.

- James remembered Chimecho in that Chingling filler.
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See Carnivine.

- James remembered Cacnea when Barry (I think) told him Gardenia had taught it learn Drain Punch.
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Exactly. Because James was reminded of it and learned about its success. Not to mention they were still in Sinnoh where Cacnea is.

- Jessie thought about Dustox again the ep after she released it.
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One episode after the release doesn't say much. And you should know that it was mentioned because of its Contest victory for Jessie. Completely relevant.

Point is, the writers just haven't really had a reason to bring up Arbok and Weezing again, unlike the other ones listed. But I do still agree with you to a certain extent. Perhaps the writers may somehow find a reason.
 
There's also this for Arbok. That and the flute are enough of a reference for me. You can't say the writers don't care about Arbok, so the big question is why Metadogas doesn't get a single reference. I have to wonder if it's because it's a poison type and therefore doesn't "fit" Kojiro anymore. But you'd think it'd at least get a visual reference.

Or maybe the writers just don't like either of them? It would explain why Musashi and Kojiro acted like the two didn't even exist the episode after they were released.
 
SGD1987 said:
Point is, the writers just haven't really had a reason to bring up Arbok and Weezing again, unlike the other ones listed. But I do still agree with you to a certain extent. Perhaps the writers may somehow find a reason.
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So you're telling me out of the last 400+ episodes of AG and DP combined, the writers couldn't bring them up or flashback to them even once? Out of 400 episodes, really?

They're their original Pokemon. Its odd the writers just ignore them as if they never happened.
 
that's because koffing/weezing and ekans/arbok haven't appeared in a lot of episodes since... if the writers made a koffing-centered episode, james would obviously mention his weezing.
 
Weezing's and Arbok's rarely appear maybe thats why Im sure if another one appeared they would remember them. Ash never remembers Primeape or Pidgeot so I guess thats the same case with Team Rocket and Arbok and Weezing.
 
Gliscor'd said:
- James brought up his Victreebel several times in the series, one time he was looking at some wild Weepinbell and said it reminded him of his old Victreebel.
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Don't forget when Gardenia offered her Victreebel for his Carnivine.

I think it's because it happened simply too long ago and some of the fanbase now never saw Hoenn and back. Same with when they erased Misty out of the flashback in the Thunderstone episode. It'd've just confused younger viewers to see a different girl on screen.
 
Yusei Fudo said:
I think it's because it happened simply too long ago and some of the fanbase now never saw Hoenn and back. Same with when they erased Misty out of the flashback in the Thunderstone episode. It'd've just confused younger viewers to see a different girl on screen.
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They're referenced a lot of stuff from Kanto.

Ash brought up Butterfree in two different DP episodes. Once as a Caterpie, and another as Butterfree with its mate.

They also brought back Jessiebelle after 12 years, and Ash had the Thunderstone from Kanto.

So they certainly aren't doing it because they think kids weren't around back then.
 
The writers probably will bring them back, who knows maybe they will make an appearance in Isshu but its unlikely. But its really strange that Weezing and Arbok dont get referenced alot since they were their first pokemon. It seems the writers dont really care about them. My favorite quote from Weezing (Koffing when it was said) "Pokemon do bad because Trainer bad" something like that.
 
Not really. This is Pokemon, and even with all the improvements we haven't even met Pidgeot or Primeape or anyone for that matter. And we all know that chances are we'll never find out the fate of May's travels, or Max as a trainer, or the like. We just need to accept that Pokemon is unlikely to make a call-back to something like that. Maybe in the future, though.
 
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Like I said Scott, no relevant reason. I already explained the relevance to the other ones. And like others have said, we just don't see the Koffing and Ekans lines as much. But perhaps it will happen some time.
 
It's strange that TR never remembered the Pokemon they originally used (for me). I think the writers just plain forgot about them.
 
PlatinumDude said:
It's strange that TR never remembered the Pokemon they originally used (for me). I think the writers just plain forgot about them.
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Not likely. They have proven time and time again that they don't forget as much as the fandom seems to think with the Spurt opening and the Kanto references in Sinnoh.
 
Actually, i do find it rather odd they don't ever have flashbacks/memories of their original two pokemon. i mean, who wouldn't mention their first pokemon at least once in a while?
 
Gliscor'd said:
So you're telling me out of the last 400+ episodes of AG and DP combined, the writers couldn't bring them up or flashback to them even once? Out of 400 episodes, really?

They're their original Pokemon. Its odd the writers just ignore them as if they never happened.
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How often did you see Ash talking about his Bulbasaur, Squirtle, Charizard, Primeape or whoever else after he released/traded/left them behind?

It's not strange at all. The writers have moved on. It seems you haven't. That's the real issue at hand here.
 
I think it is a similar issue to the "Does Ash call his friends" topic that we had a while ago. I don't see why they wouldn't think of them off screen, especially when we saw that Arbok bed.

Even then, I don't have to spout something out to remember it.
 
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