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Do you think pokemon should have multiple color palettes?

Do you think pokemon should have multiple color palettes?

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Sometimes I see fan made shinies and they look so good that it makes me wish we could have multiple shinies per pokemon.
 
Yes, I definitely think Pokemon should, and Squakwabilly (did I spell that right?) was a good start. It doesn't have to be multiple shinies. It could be normal different colored forms of the same Pokemon like Tatsugiri, who had multiple different colored forms. And, in turn, the shiny versions of the different colored non shinies could have had different colors.
 
I don't see why not. Though I think it should probably be limited to three palettes so things don't get out of hand - unless it's a special Pokemon. So you'd have like:

  • Normal
  • Shiny
  • Alternate - Unlike shiny, this would be unconnected to rarity. Since shiny is already the exciting one. Maybe they could move some of the... less considered shinies to here and give older Pokemon new shinies to get people really excited to hunt them. And also make their rarity more tantalizing. This would be as common as the normal version and serve as a more easily accessible alt.
They could also do the Awesome Thing that Pokemon Stadium did and have hue shifting instead. Basically, the normal color palette of a Pokemon can vary slightly by tint depending on the nickname. You can get the gist of what I'm talking about with Blue Moon Fall's hue previewer. Whilst the nickname was a very cool way to distinguish things, I think they should just have it happen randomly like the size feature in the Legends games out in the wild. It'd be a fun way to mix things up by automating them without too much work.

I mean, imagine playing a modern Pokemon game and you see a bunch of guys spawn on the overworld of slightly varying hues. In this case, I feel they should also change up some of the older shinies that are just hue-shifted very slightly, like Garchomp, to distinguish them from the new feature.

I doubt they'll ever do this. But man... that would be so cool if they did.
 
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I don't think we're likely to get anything like this just due to the amount of work it would take for something so small. GameFreak isn't really the type to go the extra mile for this kind of stuff. But it would be super cool. ESPECIALLY the hue shift from Stadium I miss that so much! And if it was extended to shinies as well (shinies bypass it in Stadium to always be the same, iirc), that would be insane... I can only imagine the crazy hunts that would result from trying to get specific hue value shinies haha
Honestly I'm always for little details to make individual mons feel more unique, immersion and becoming attached to your Pokémon is a big part of the experience, after all (for me at least)
 
Honestly no. I don't see the appeal of Shinies in general other than to use as trade bait, so the idea of having even more color palettes does little for me. Also it feels like the kind of thing GF would use as an excuse to leave out more Pokemon from the regional Dexes in the future, because they'd claim that the extra alternate colored Pokemon would take up too much data or something.
 
the only way i've ever seen this work correctly is when you lean into biology; creating additional shiny tiers based on the very real cases of albinism and melanism. otherwise it becomes "oh wait let's give the cats tabby and calico!" which is fine and cute and usually very adorable, but hard to apply universally.
 
Hmmmm.. maybe during the days of sprites which can be adjusted at the switch of a palette, I could've easilly seen it and it'd be fun to see, but as stuff like shinird are individual models now, I worry about further colors just being a bit more extra work. Perhaps for select few if they have a little time in development for nothing bigger, but it seems it'd be a bit of an arbitrary resource to prioritize for every Pokémon.
 
Juliyet said:
Hmmmm.. maybe during the days of sprites which can be adjusted at the switch of a palette, I could've easilly seen it and it'd be fun to see, but as stuff like shinird are individual models now, I worry about further colors just being a bit more extra work. Perhaps for select few if they have a little time in development for nothing bigger, but it seems it'd be a bit of an arbitrary resource to prioritize for every Pokémon.
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eh, shinies don't need entirely separate models, just texture swaps. model dumps of scarvio (use the size dropdown to see individual file breakdowns for the zips) only use the one set of polygons. it's JUST retextures for shinies.
 
bittersweetVICTORY said:
eh, shinies don't need entirely separate models, just texture swaps. model dumps of scarvio (use the size dropdown to see individual file breakdowns for the zips) only use the one set of polygons. it's JUST retextures for shinies.
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Okay that's fair. But i still feel like retexturing would take a little more than classic palette swapping for sprites. Though maybe GameFreak/Creatures found an easy process with it for shinies that they could use for recolors :hmm:
 
Juliyet said:
Okay that's fair. But i still feel like retexturing would take a little more than classic palette swapping. Though maybe GameFreak/Creatures found an easy process with it for shinies
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not necessarily; in a case like this you can just copy the necessary lineart and arrange your colors n plop that over it. or, if you actually want to be really economical, there's a technique they don't use here called colorsets. if you've modded final fantasy xiv before, you know what these are; this is how they get such a wide range of colors on hair and clothes. (they use the same technique on skin colors but because there's actually color baked into the model's diffuse that affects how it renders in some interesting ways.)

i'm willing to bet that GF has never bothered with colorsets on pokémon because they've never needed to account for several different color palettes at once.
 
i dunno about alternate types of shinies but i think it'd be cool if they did something kinda like in pokemon stadium where nicknames would give your pokemon a different hue. maybe base it on something other than nicknames? a make it more visible for some pokemon. it'd be a little thing but i think it'd be fun and cool to make every pokemon feel unique
 
No, just no.

If you mean if the player themselves could customize slight colours or details of our own pokemon then I don’t mind that, but if you mean like more types of shinies, then hell no.

However, what I think could be a better option is to change some of the existing shinies. I would most definitely like every shiny that’s basically the same as the original to be changed.

I can sympathize not liking any shiny colour choices, but making another shiny design solely for those species just feels too pointless. I’m sorry, but I’m rejecting this idea.
 
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