Do You Think That Any of Ash/Satoshi's Other Companions Will Ever Join Him Again?

[Pidgeot]

Seeing as its been ages since we've had the original gang in the series, do you think that Brock and Misty will return one day and travel with Ash for one final time?

As you all know, there is a lively thread on whether Misty and Brock will ever rejoin the animé. Someone there asked why there was no thread for Ash's other companions.

Here it is.

Personally, I think that they'll only join Ash again in a finale arc. Now, as for everyone else, I've no idea.

Discuss.

Mod-note: Now that this thread is in the PL, posts that merely restate the poll options will count as pointless posts. Please state your reasoning for your choices, thank you!

 

[투 애니원]

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I'm pretty sure Gliscor'd made a similar thread not to long ago.

My answer is no. They'd probably appear together with Ash one day but to travel again is too unlikely.

 

[pokemon fan 132]

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In my opinion while unlikely original trio has some small chance of seeing light of the day again for final season or something with purpose of bringing better sense of closure to series as a whole.

Original trio of Ash,Misty and Brock is extremely popular to this day being group which started pokemon series becoming iconic and most recognizable trio in this show.Having them reunited for one last adventure would be nice way to wrap up long lasting show like pokemon ending it with group which started everything with things coming full circle bringing spirit of older days providing better finality.
This would also provide opportunity to see writers tying up some loose ends going for them being given some character development and provide better finality.

I think this could also prove to be good business move with purpose of going beyond current target audience trying to attract more of older fans toward this show which would in end bring more viewers increasing TV ratings with final product out of it being more money.
Many older fans which don't watch this show for one reason or another and veteran gamers could be wiling to return back to pokemon in case original trio with who thy grew up gets reunited to renew their appeal for show being nice little throwback to past and reminder to their childhood memories while providing to target audience opportunity to get know better trio with who everything began growing to like them just as much as we did.

Out of all groups only real demand from what i noticed is for original trio being reunited which is rather huge being counted in thousands so its natural to expect how this move would bring certain portion of them back to this show.

And Misty,Brock and Ash as trio could definitely deliver quality of entertainment as they already prove to be capable and liked because of it and building up on already existing friendship would bring new interesting dimension to it along with continuation of their stories being made.For a change it would be interesting to see rekindle of friendship between Ash and his previous traveling companions seeing them developed more with build up on their previous relationship serving like nice change of pace compared to rinse and repeat"Ash meets new people","become friend with them","after 4 years departs with them".

From story standpoint they also have reasons and potential to go on on more adventure as well with some things being left unanswered about Brock along with Misty never being given closure to story having untapped potential to do more with character.Since Misty goal of becoming water master requires traveling and entering some competitions(as Whirl Cup showed) with gym not being enough to learn some new things and if Brock becomes traveling doctor joining Ash to go on one last adventure advancing their goals in company of friends instead of doing it alone would make sense giving them justification behind joining cast again.

In end it depends on writers though.If they want to reunite original trio to develop them more and close down series in a way of things coming back full circle than i could see Ash,Misty and Brock being reunited once more.Otherwise most likely not,unfortunately.

 

[Gooba]

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having the old trio come back would be a very nostalgic experience. I bet many people who gave up on the anime would come back to watch it agan and that would be a very good move on the writers behalf. Although i don't think the current writers even care. the use the same *meet new person/pokemon* *find outsomething about them* *they get captured* *rescue them* *depart from them at sunrise* i think they're just going to keep bringing in new people just because they want the show to be "new" and to keep the show diferant each season. So no i doubht they would bring them back. or ecleast it's highly unlikely.

 

[Juzey]

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I think if the anime ever ends, then they'll come back for a few episodes at the end.

 

[Cybersai]

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They'll never be there for a full region again. Misty hasn't had a cameo since 2005 and the writers just got rid of Brock 1 year ago.

The original trio died back in 2002. Not even for a single episode has the trio ever been reunited. Its been 9 years since then, so no.

 

[SSJ_Jup81]

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Maybe if the show is ending as a whole, I could maybe see it. You know, the trio reunited, maybe going someplace together leaving the audience to speculate on such an open-ending. Other than that, no.

 

[Cybersai]

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Why would a Gym leader and a now most likely doctor give up their dreams to travel with Ash again?

Ash is never going to stop traveling to endless regions, Misty and Brock's lives are totally separate from him now. Friends do not always stick together.

 

[pokemon fan 132]

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They'll never be there for a full region again. Misty hasn't had a cameo since 2005 and the writers just got rid of Brock 1 year ago.

The original trio died back in 2002. Not even for a single episode has the trio ever been reunited. Its been 9 years since then, so no.

People thought we will never see Gary or Jessibelle again either in DP and yet they returned.If writers find reunion of Ash,Misty and Brock would be profitable enough and serve purpose contributing to show plot they certainly can revive this group back to life.

Also original trio was already reunited in Hoenn,so im not sure if i get what you mean.Only reason why they werent alone was due to fact of May and Max already being main characters.

Why would a Gym leader and a now most likely doctor give up their dreams to travel with Ash again?

Ash is never going to stop traveling to endless regions, Misty and Brock's lives are totally separate from him now. Friends do not always stick together.

Who says thy would give up their drams?They can make further steps toward their goals by joining Ash for awhile traveling in company of their friends as well.

We still dont know if Brock will become traveling doctor or settle at pokemon center and speaking of Misty,her goal was to become water pokemon master last time i checked.Main reason why she returned to gym and stayed was out of obligation and necessity not because she wanted to be gym leader.Nothing in chronicles indicated that Misty gave up on original goal of becoming water master still preferring water types,wanting to learn everything she can about them.
Unlike Gary or Brock who decided to change their careers gym leader duties were forced upon Misty not knowing if she still wants to become best water trainer or not.

We can see how several gym leaders out there leave gym to improve themselves and learn new things which they cant at gym,like Wallace,Fantina,Cilan etc so if Misty left gym for some period of time to gather new knowledge and advance her dreams would make sense.
If problem with gym substitute gets solved and Misty decides to leave to advance her dreams writers could just pick up from where thy stopped having her back in plausible way.

Since her ultimate goal of becoming water master requires traveling and entering some competitions with gym not being enough makes perfect sense for her to leave and advance her skills,catch new water types and gather new knowledge.
In fact many fans say how going on quest trying to become E4 being promoted would make for a good closure to her character achieving basically her goals.Another reason why traveling is good idea.

 

[CommanderPigg]

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No.

 

[Hassel]

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You'd have to be pretty darn delusional to think they would.

 

[Eitarou]

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Wasn't it already stated that Misty won't be coming back?

 

[Cybersai]

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Wasn't it already stated that Misty won't be coming back?

Yeah, maybe in a "series finale" type episode we'd see them again, but I would highly suspect we'd also be seeing all the other characters one last time too.

 

[Sith Droideka]

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Let me tell you all a story. Once upon a time, a little boy named Ash, cursed with latent time-control powers that forced him to turn 10 every year, teamed up with a fiery red-head named Misty, also 10, and a tanned, almost-blind man who used echolocation to find things, called Brock. One day, Ash and Misty left behind Brock because he dumped them for some girl professor and went on an adventure with Tracey, king of filler. Then they all went to Johto, became as exciting as watching grass grow or paint dry, and then Misty suddenly rode home on her bicycle because she was called back. Then Ash and Brock went on better written adventures while some fans of Misty cried foul.

For ever and ever and ever and ever and ever...

Eight real-world years later, a Misty now aged about 16 (she had no latent control over time) decided to call her good friend Ash, who was still aged 10. Unfortunately for Misty, she no longer found him attractive due to the fact that she isn't a pedophile, and in sadness prepared to jump off of a diving board into some concrete when she was eaten by Soledad's out-of-control Snorlax. Meanwhile, Brock actually got into a relationship with a Nurse Joy, only for it to turn out that she was actually Kyurem in disguise, and it ate Brock.

Meanwhile, certain fans still hadn't gotten the fact that the original trio wasn't coming back.

And thus Brock and Misty never returned, because they had been eaten, and a great wailing and gnashing of teeth was heard throughout the land.

/storytime

They are not coming back. Not. Coming. Back. They will never return, and they will never travel with Ash. I doubt that by the sixth generation we'll even see Brock. And as I'm sure you all know, Misty appeared once in DP. One time. And that wasn't even her, it was a lure. For all intents and purposes, TR could've blown up the Cerulean Gym and Brock died in a wild Chansey stampede and it wouldn't impact the show at all. Because if Misty hasn't shown up since what, DP89?, then she will definitely not appear in a series that is not only foreign to Kanto, and is far enough away that a plane needs to be used, and she would not be advertising anything. So just stop it. Give up. Stop whining. Misty and Brock cannot advance their careers in a foreign country where they could play no roles, since the current trend seems to be to simply replace their roles entirely. And since I doubt any of use want two pieces of cardboard hanging around our heroes, I think we can all agree that no, they won't be coming back, and no, I doubt that they will ever travel with Ash again in the future.

 

[Itsuki]

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Brock is living his dream now, so he won't be coming back. There is no reason for him to. And I would be disappointed if they ever brought Misty back.

 

[Aestivate]

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Maybe for a "back for the finale" run, but all the other main characters would be back too. Otherwise, no, no, no. There is NO indication that Takeshi/Kasumi are any more important than any other of Satoshi's traveling buddies. Nostalgia goggles =/= special.

 

[pokemon fan 132]

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I dont think its delusional to take in account all possible options.As it was established purpose behind this show is all about making money.

We are talking in here about trio which made anime globally popular achieving iconic status and introducing to us pokemon.This is group with which older fans grew up with being always remembered as first faces and ones with who started everything when pokemon was at its peak of popularity.Among many people pokemon will always be associated with them leaving bigger impact than their successors did so its pretty much a given how some benefit their reunion could provide.

Given how 15 anniversary is being on its way covering up Blue games i could see both Misty and Brock coming back for it,and if older games gets remade again their return would hold marketing value behind it.

I gather how last season would revolve mostly around wrapping up Ash and other characters bringing show to end not being so much about game promotion and since writers wouldnt be restrained by advertizing games they would have liberty to tweak things around to prepare show for most suitable finale and conclusion.

Many people would like this to happen and if last season happens i could see Ash,Misty and Brock being reunited serving as nice throwback in past reviving spirit of older days and providing better sense of conclusion to pokemon anime because of ending it with those who started everything.
Many other anime tend to bring back older characters when reaching end with purpose of leaving better and longer lasting impact.

Purpose behind reunion of original trio would:
-provide better sense of closure to series as a whole with things coming full circle with those who started it,
-it would make stronger connection to past and Ash hometown region from where his journey started with their reunion being done for continuity purposes.
-Their reunion could also attract more of older fans toward this show judging be demand for them being reunited out there with purpose being to reach beyond current demographic,increase ratings and act as reward for all fans who were part of this franchise for all this years.
-it would give target audience opportunity to get know original trio with who everything began.

Last season of pokmon would be perfect opportunity to have first group reunited because it would hold significance and purpose behind it.

Wasn't it already stated that Misty won't be coming back?

According to ex pokemon director mr.Hidaka who was storyboard artist at that time it was said how she wont return to main cast,but will continue to make cameo appearances.However such thing wasnt confirmed by writers themselves.

Going by this answer has already been provided,butsometimes writers tend to change their minds.Like they did with Brock case in OI for example.

Realistically Misty most likely wont return to cast with same applying probably to Brock but who can in here say with 100% certainty how this will never happen when things tend to change with writers changing plans all the time?

LMisty and Brock cannot advance their careers in a foreign country where they could play no roles, since the current trend seems to be to simply replace their roles entirely. And since I doubt any of use want two pieces of cardboard hanging around our heroes, I think we can all agree that no, they won't be coming back, and no, I doubt that they will ever travel with Ash again in the future.

This is kinda contradictory,because if they returned they would be playing some role in show again being significant obviously,and since it was established how for further progress of their careers traveling is required(more so in Misty case since her goal is to become something higher than gym leader being one type master which basically E4 members are)provides valid excuse from story standpoint for writers to bring them back with purpose of enriching their knwledge and learn new things which would help them in longer run.

Especially if another remakes of first generation of games get made again with Ash going back to his hometown region.
Majority of fandom would like that original group hits the road again with demand being huge.

Brock is living his dream now, so he won't be coming back. There is no reason for him to. And I would be disappointed if they ever brought Misty back.

Brock can become traveling doctor.

Maybe for a "back for the finale" run, but all the other main characters would be back too. Otherwise, no, no, no. There is NO indication that Takeshi/Kasumi are any more important than any other of Satoshi's traveling buddies. Nostalgia goggles =/= special.

I dont think question in here is who is more "special" but in what way would be best to wrap up long lasting show like pokemon .Like i said before imo it would make more sense to close down series with first Ash traveling companions forming group with who everything started adding for bigger impact.

Thats not to say how Max,May etc wouldnt get some focus too,because they would with writers giving them chance to shine prior to end,its just they wouldnt be in last season as main characters which would accompany Ash on final adventure in case writers decide to prepare end of this show in that way.

Also original trio is most iconic and recognized group of characters worldwide because of being trio which started whole thing making anime popular in first place.Even people who dont watch pokemon,tend to associate this show with first group.Talking from personal experience and what i noticed.

For none of replaced groups there exist such demand for reunion like its case with Misty and Brock and there probably exists reason behind it.

 

[Aestivate]

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Not. True. At. All. I agree that while the original trio is very iconic and yes, it helped to make the anime popular, that is not to say that it is iconic for the actual targeted audience. Ask any 6-year-old today about the main characters of Pokemon and I assure you the names "Dawn, Cilan, Iris, Ash, Brock" will come up as opposed to "Ash, Misty, Brock" or "Ash, May, Max, Brock." The writers aren't aiming to please the older fans, but to bring the younger ones in to keep the fandom alive.

 

[Sith Droideka]

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"Majority of fandom would like that original group hits the road again with demand being huge."

No it's not. The majority of the fandom consists of little kids who don't even know who Misty is unless they've played the games. As in, the older ones. And of the minority that are not little kids, only a minority of them want the Original Trio to hit the road again. If anyone should hit the road again, it should be people that actually make sense, such as traveling coordinators like May or Dawn or starting trainers like Max, not doctors going to Med School like Brock or established gym leaders that need to keep the gym running unless they want the gym closed, like Misty. And where did you get the idea that the E4 need to travel? I don't believe we've ever seen a member of the E4 traveling around to become one. Not to mention that in the games it seems as if Koga was appointed a member of the Indigo League E4, not that he traveled around a bit to earn it. Plus, Unova is not in Kanto. It is nowhere near Kanto. And if Misty's going to join an E4, it's Kanto.

 

[pokemon fan 132]

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Not. True. At. All. I agree that while the original trio is very iconic and yes, it helped to make the anime popular, that is not to say that it is iconic for the actual targeted audience. Ask any 6-year-old today about the main characters of Pokemon and I assure you the names "Dawn, Cilan, Iris, Ash, Brock" will come up as opposed to "Ash, Misty, Brock" or "Ash, May, Max, Brock." The writers aren't aiming to please the older fans, but to bring the younger ones in to keep the fandom alive.

That is only true to one extent because certain portion of target audience is familiar with original group thanks to reruns,older relatives or internet.New generations of kids sooner or later catch up with previous sagas finding out from Misty when watching original series a or Hoenn whenever references to her were occasionally provided.
Many of today Brock or Misty fans who were target audience when Sinnoh was starting out are now teenagers with age rang being between 12 and 18 which just proves how new kids either find out about older characters through reruns of older series,because of internet or simply hearing from older relatives .

Many of original series veterans who are now in their twenties are long gone but original trio popularity is still going strong because of older being replaced with new fans who in one way or another got familiar with Ash first traveling companions.

Talking from my personal experience i met some of today children who know about original trio being viewed as most iconic group even now to anyone who watched first series.Whoever i met and ask about pokemon in majority of cases pokemon anime was associated with original group because they were there when pokemon was at its peak of popularity being trio which promoted whole concept of show worldwide.

Thats not the case only with pokemon,in all other shows which replace cast first group of characters is usually being remembered the most.One of examples is Yugioh with first cast still being recognized and remembered the most.

As for writers aiming toward bringing new generations of fans that is true and everything but if they decide to reach beyond target demographic with purpose of bringing in more fans,reuniting original trio could attract more of older fans toward this show while keeping target audience which would in end mean more viewers and money.

Not sure if people are familiar with this but demand for reunion of Ash,Misty and Brock is huge with there being thousands of fans wanting to see this group back for one more adventure. All i see on various sites,youtube, or in real life is request how first group should comeback.

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No it's not. The majority of the fandom consists of little kids who don't even know who Misty is unless they've played the games.

I was talking about older fandom when speaking of majority.

When it comes to target audience its needed to take in account how certain number of them watched older seasons thanks to reruns on various TV stations like Boomrang,Pokemon Smash,Cartoon Network etc or thanks to internet(yes in 21st century today kids have access to it)knowing who Misty is.

As in, the older ones. And of the minority that are not little kids, only a minority of them want the Original Trio to hit the road again.

Not at all.Out of older fandom vast majority judging by what i encountered online wants original trio back on show again.

When you see thousands around the net whining abort first group,sending all kind of petitions and letters with attempt of bringing them back that says something.

If anyone should hit the road again, it should be people that actually make sense, such as traveling coordinators like May or Dawn or starting trainers like Max, not doctors going to Med School like Brock or established gym leaders that need to keep the gym running unless they want the gym closed, like Misty.

Not every doctor opens day care center staying at one place.Some of them travel with purpose of gathering new knowledge by learning about pokemon and methods of healing in wild and by meeting other famous doctors from other regions.With Brock we still dont know what kind of doctor he will become.

As for Misty since when leaving gym to advance your dreams doesnt make sense?We can see with examples of Brock,Cilan,Wallace etc how being gym leader doesnt matter if someone has other goals he strive for leaving his position for one or another reason.,

Since Misty goal is to become water master for which it was established how traveling and learning about water types in wild,battling other water trainers and exchanging your experience with them is required as well events like Whirl Cup expanding on whole term little more confirming how there exist specific competitions someone needs to enter in order to achieve this,having her leave and travel for awhile to advance her dream would make sense.
Just for comparison Wallace also used to be gym leader later on leaving gym to improve skills through traveling becoming champion,contest master and one of best water trainers in world.

We all know how sister incompetence was main reason behind her return to gym later on staying.However that doesnt represent any problem at all since writers could in case of Misty return resolve situation with Cerulean gym very easily by providing substitute which would take care of it while she is absent,By either making sisters more responsible or opening new subplot by introducing unknown relative which could bring some quality development.In that case since Misty would be free to leave and if in character is invoked desire to travel again learning new things which she cant at gym and exploring new regions and pokemon along with sharping skills through tournament and competitions with purpose of advancing goal would provide valid excuse behind return.

With May and Dawn if anything it would be much harder to provide justification regardless of continuing to travel since they decided to leave group on their own coming to realization how to achieve their goals with purpose behind laving being in advancing their careers.

Something which didnt exactly happened with Misty with many things being left unanswered regarding her story being sent back to gym without character being given closure with no indication of further progress with story being made laving things uncleared.Writers could just pick up from where they left regarding Misty dream in case of return having window of directions through which character could be taken doing continuation of story.

And where did you get the idea that the E4 need to travel? I don't believe we've ever seen a member of the E4 traveling around to become one. Not to mention that in the games it seems as if Koga was appointed a member of the Indigo League E4, not that he traveled around a bit to earn it.

It is still not known how could someone become E4 but there probably exist some tasks and evaluators someone would need to pass to prove his strength and to determine if he has potential to obtain such position.Since you cant reach E4 level of skill as gym leader being required traveling to learn new techniques and improve your skills by battling other stronger trainers and entering events with high competition with many leaders who became something more leaving their respective positions to travel and train and since you cant jump from gym to E4 position just like that with there probably existing some tests and procedure to pass its logical to presume how in order to become E4 member traveling is required.

Talking about Koga anime canon isnt same as game canon.Speaking of which he didnt became E4 right away being implied how 3 years passed during transition period when he stopped being gym leader.
As for Misty in Gold and Silver when you beat her in games she says how she plans to travel one day to meet stronger trainers and improve so having her hit the road again would fit nicely with game canon as well.

Plus, Unova is not in Kanto. It is nowhere near Kanto. And if Misty's going to join an E4, it's Kanto.

Who is talking about Unova?Its being discussed will original trio return in future regions when this one gets done with.