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Do you think that hoeans elite 4 was to weak?

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I think that hoeans elite 4 is weak compare to kanto and johto I mean the lvls stop at lvl 58 I think that kinda sucks. I want to know if you think that hoeans elite 4 was weak or a challange. say your thoughts about the matter tell me if there a challange or weak.
 
I think they were a little bit harder than Kanto and Johto. I know i had my fair share White outs with the Hoenn Elite 4
 
I think Steven made it a lot more difficult.

I also think that the Elete 4 (as a whole) in Emerald is more difficult than Ruby and Sapphire for some reason.

But I still feel they are about the same. I think Steven would probably be able to beat Lance and Gary however... Maybe I just think Steven looks cool.
 
Yeah thats true but they never get stronger Like garys lvl 75 blatoise I think thats it sort of a challange in hoean but not really.
 
I think they were medium difficulty. The Jouto 'l33t four was alot weaker... *shrugs* The Elite Four is usually weak in general, but if you don't have all the type advantages down pat and not enough items, it can be a pain. x.<;;;

I think Steven was the one who made it harder, like bella02 alpha mentioned.
 
GSC's Elite 4 is a joke. Seriously, the highest is a L50. Lance's Pokemon LOST levels, for crying out loud!

FRLG's Elite 4 is ridiculously difficult. But Emerald's... I had to take a page out of my competitive battling knowledge and get Dragon Dance on my Gyara before I could even consider winning. Milotic is just evil.
 
I just used the bone-headed strategy of going through the Emerald E4 over and over again until the levels were high enough to win. It took something like 2 days and 20+ rounds to beat Wallace, and even then I almost lost - with a team of level 50 and 60 somethings... Yet, I don't think Milotic was really a problem... compared to Kingdra anyway.
 
I will agree that the original Kanto E4 of R/B/Y and FR/LG fame are the most difficult, and FR/LG makes them even more of a pain when you have to face them with more powerful pokemon. I have only faced the Ru/Sa version of Hoenn's E4, I do not know how much more powerful Wallace is in it, but even when he was a gym leader, I was not afraid of his Milotic. As for Steven, a good Water type w/Ice Beam pwns most of his team hands down, it's defeating that Metagross that's difficult. It has the highest Sp. Def. of a non-legendary Steel type. (Registeel is the real Sp. Def. winner)

I will agree with those that say G/S/C's E4 is a joke. Red's Snorlax is a pain, though, but that's as much as I'll give them. (I hate fighting high HP pokes)
 
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The weakest E4 of all time was Red/Blue's.

They were supposed to be the "strongest trainers in the [world/country/whatever]", but their Pokémon's moves look like they were chosen by a 3-year-old.

Plus Lance used Gameshark back then (Dragonite used BARRIER!?). Then again, he did it in G/S too (Rock Slide+Aerodactyl??).

Holy crap, the GBA Pokémon games are the only ones where at least one member of the E4 ISN'T a blatant cheater...

R/S's E4= :lx206:. G/S/C's E4= :lx077:. R/B's E4= :lx129:.
And I guess Yellow's is more like a :lx129: that leveled up some and learned Surf by borrowing Lance's Gameshark.
 
I beat the G/S/C elite 4 with just a Feraligatr and an Ampharos. I didn't have much trouble in Ruby, (though I had already planned and produced a perfectly balanced team for constant super-effectiveness.) But Yellow and Fire Red were evil. I finally managed to beat the Fire Red Elite Four once, but I only just scraped through.

I haven't got Emerald yet, but I already hate Milotic from the R/S Battle Tower, so it should be interesting. *Checks for most powerful electric Hoenn Pokémon*
 
I had a hell of a lot of fun with Johto's E4. Though.....if you know me even a little, you know why. XD

"OMG! *licks the screen for like half an hour* ...oh, yeah, I'm supposed to battle. ROFFLES!!!!1"
 
I beat the Emerald E4 with just four Pokémon. It took a few tries of saving-then-resetting, though, before I found the right strategy. Sirnight Calm Minded to the max with Thunderbolt and Psychic really killed Mikuri fast.
 
When I go to the Elte 4 I do it kind of arogently, usually the pokemon I train are whatever I want and in the fourm I want, meaning I'm not picking out speciallized teams. in RBY the elite 4 was pretty easy because they weren't to speciallized aganst their type. They tried to take you on purely witht their levels (though you got to them with all your monsters' levels between 50 and 60) which doesn't work. *lol at Bruno's Hitmonlee and the fact that it had no moves to fight a ghost or anti-fighting pokemon*

GSC, I don't know what they were trying (did they think RBY's was too hard?). Maybe they were going by types, to pick types difficult to beat. Uh... I think it's unanimous that this didn't work.

RS.. I think they were trying to make it difficult with type matches and moves. I think it actually made it feel more difficult to me as it seemed like they were specialized to work against their weaknesses. Though with a blaziken you could blaze through almost everyone (stupid pun). I still don't think it was hard enough, as I didn't white out.

FR/LG seemed a little harder with much improvements over RBY. They seemed to try to use the tactics form R/S combined with the lvs in RBY. I think that worked and made it better. I think I whited out one time (but then.. I used unevolved pokemon too, like sandshrew and wartortle). Also when the Elete 4 reorganized it felt a lot harder than that also.

Emerald seemed the hardest to me so far. I had a team of relitively strong monsters, for me, but I got stuck at Walance the first time forcing me to white out (no strategy seemed to do it with my level 45 monsters) and I barely won the second time with Perish Song (using a cheap tactic of waisting 3 turns on his last monster, Milotic, Kingdra I beat with flygon amazingly, he was too much fixed on improving his stats to stop me).

If Diamond Pearl is any indication for Diamond's... then I'll have some fun. I just hope they do something to cause a huge viraity in moves and everything to dramatically change up matches, like going through strong trials for pokemon with certian personalitys to be able to learn and do things considered illegal normally (to cause people to develop counters to, with new moves or learned characteristics, to counter illegal cheap combos like lock-on and a 1-hit k.o. move, or mean look and perish song combo).
 
The thing with RBY's Elite 4 is that their levels are way higher than yours - but their AI is abysmal. They will literally pick random moves, there's no rhyme or reason whatsoever. At least in GSC they knew how to use type advantages - and in RS they began to develop some actual strategy - but RBY's Elite 4 is laughable. However, when you put some actual AI into the mix, as with FRLG... it's brutal. The level disadvantage you face can be very overwhelming.
 
The Hoenn Elite 4 is the only one that gives me trouble. Mainly because I went through Emerald casually leveling up; fighting what I ran into and not doing any extra training. So I got to the Elite 4 and I was all level 40's. And Victory Road blows to train in. Took hours. x_x
 
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