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Do you think there will be any changes in continuity?

I should warn you that topics like this tend to become more like the main discussion thread. Actually, this is kinda how it started. Posting there might be better for you.
 
Ryuutakesh! said:
I should warn you that topics like this tend to become more like the main discussion thread. Actually, this is kinda how it started. Posting there might be better for you.
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ok sorry so can someone close this one
 
"Continuity" is really loosely defined in Pokemon. I don't think we can call anything an error when there's no real canon for it to contradict.
 
Martonimos said:
"Continuity" is really loosely defined in Pokemon. I don't think we can call anything an error when there's no real canon for it to contradict.
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I agree.

Especially in the case of Jouto, Jouto is the only game tied to any previous game plot wise. Everything else is a variable that works no matter what outcome the player chooses.
 
At least in Japan, Game Freak actually does care about continuity.

Notice how the Pokémon have retained the exact same cries throughout the main series? Even Yellow Version's Pikachu had the same cry, albeit only in its Pokédex entry.

Ever since Yellow, all Pokémon have essentially retained their appearances, with notable exceptions, such as the Legendary Beasts between GS and C. The only games in which the Pokémon look noticeably different are Red, Green and Blue.

Despite the ramblings of idiots and Pokémon haters like my brother, no Pokémon have ever been retired. Also, the National Dex order of all previous Pokémon has remained the same, and will probably remain the same in the future.

In the Japanese version of FireRed and LeafGreen, Janine did, indeed, retain her original name of "Anzu". Also, in all versions of said games, there is a reference to Lance having a cousin who is a gym leader "somewhere far away". This is clearly a reference to Clair and Blackthorn City.

Although, there have been a fair deal of inconsistencies as well. Take, for example, the leader of the Fighting Dojo. I don't remember his Japanese name, but I do know that even the people at Game Freak misnamed him between GSC and FRLG. Unless it isn't the same Karate King.

Sometimes there are continuity issues even within the same game. For example, if you refuse to go with Bill to the Sevii region the first time around, he'll be waiting at Cinnabar Island...and at his cottage on Cerulean Cape.

And then, of course, there's the issue with Kris and Soul. Soul is one of three things: a redesign, a continuity error, or a retcon. Whetever she is, she's a mistake.

As well, Game Freak has always enjoyed adding new plot elements whenever they get the chance, as shown in Yellow, Crystal, FireRed, LeafGreen, Emerald and Platinum.

But to the issue at hand. Regarding all the stuff above, could HGSS present any continuity changes?

I wouldn't put it past Game Freak. They like their continuity, but they also like their brand-new features.

So, in a word:

Yes.
 
Martonimos said:
"Continuity" is really loosely defined in Pokemon. I don't think we can call anything an error when there's no real canon for it to contradict.
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Tell that to the anime fans who strictly adhere that anything dubbed is wrong.
 
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I have to agree with Mario: No

Seriously, I dunno. But I suspect there's not gonna be any drastic continuity changes.
 
Glitchipedia said:
At least in Japan, Game Freak actually does care about continuity.

Notice how the Pokémon have retained the exact same cries throughout the main series? Even Yellow Version's Pikachu had the same cry, albeit only in its Pokédex entry.

Ever since Yellow, all Pokémon have essentially retained their appearances, with notable exceptions, such as the Legendary Beasts between GS and C. The only games in which the Pokémon look noticeably different are Red, Green and Blue.

Despite the ramblings of idiots and Pokémon haters like my brother, no Pokémon have ever been retired. Also, the National Dex order of all previous Pokémon has remained the same, and will probably remain the same in the future.

In the Japanese version of FireRed and LeafGreen, Janine did, indeed, retain her original name of "Anzu". Also, in all versions of said games, there is a reference to Lance having a cousin who is a gym leader "somewhere far away". This is clearly a reference to Clair and Blackthorn City.

Although, there have been a fair deal of inconsistencies as well. Take, for example, the leader of the Fighting Dojo. I don't remember his Japanese name, but I do know that even the people at Game Freak misnamed him between GSC and FRLG. Unless it isn't the same Karate King.

Sometimes there are continuity issues even within the same game. For example, if you refuse to go with Bill to the Sevii region the first time around, he'll be waiting at Cinnabar Island...and at his cottage on Cerulean Cape.

And then, of course, there's the issue with Kris and Soul. Soul is one of three things: a redesign, a continuity error, or a retcon. Whetever she is, she's a mistake.

As well, Game Freak has always enjoyed adding new plot elements whenever they get the chance, as shown in Yellow, Crystal, FireRed, LeafGreen, Emerald and Platinum.

But to the issue at hand. Regarding all the stuff above, could HGSS present any continuity changes?

I wouldn't put it past Game Freak. They like their continuity, but they also like their brand-new features.

So, in a word:

Yes.
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While everything you said is correct, I think of the continuity in Pokemon to be primarily the story.

And the story will remain mostly the same, weather we like it or not. At it's root, every Pokemon game is the same anyway, the things that change between them are plot details.

Small details such as the ones you mentioned are important, yes, but they wouldn't drastically change the game.

This is some-what unrelated, but Pokemon is one of the few RPGs were you more or less, play as "yourself".
For that reason the continuity as you're referring to it can and may change, but still I find it unlikely.


And as far as "in Japan GF cares" GF cares. Period.
It's inaccurate translators and localizations that generally cause minor and stupid continuity errors.
 
Will both english and japanese reuse the scripts that was in gold and silver or make up a new one.
 
Franklin93 said:
Will both English and Japanese reuse the scripts that was in gold and silver or make up a new one.
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Since Nob is gone, HGSS English scripts will likely be a bit different from GSC English scripts, being that everything will likely be translated again.

Then again, we can only make (educated?) guesses, there's no precedent or anything with which to judge.
 
Pt didn't have a significant difference from DP because Nob's gone, so I doubt HGSS will differ any more than FRLG did from RBY.
 
Ever since Yellow, all Pokémon have essentially retained their appearances, with notable exceptions, such as the Legendary Beasts between GS and C. The only games in which the Pokémon look noticeably different are Red, Green and Blue.
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Quite a bit more like Meganium.

They'd obviously have to use a new script. Anything that refers to Johto Pokemon as being an entirely new species would most likely have changed.
 
Yeah, it won't stay the same. I'm sure that Nintendo doesn't pay attention to most of these continuity details, and they probably don't care if a minor detail changes. I mean, there's only a few Nintendo games with an actual chronological order, Pokemon doesn't really have all that much of one.
 
One change off the top of my head is adding a camera-man at the Lake of Rage, saying how recording footage of the Red Gyarados will be a huge hit. Referancing to that one guy in Platinum who mentions doing it.
 
I hope there will be no (or very, very, very few) retcons that mess up the plot continuity.

I'm just somewhat afraid that they'll retcon the thing about Eggs being a new discovery and the Steel-type being new. This will be done, in order not to make younger fans WTF. Of course, any older player, who knows GSC, would perfectly know what's going on...

But I hope for no bigger plot retcon. Despite the addition, I hope that the plot is more or less the same as in GSC. I'm just kinda afraid about Kanto. If they decide to "give it more love", it might have a side effect in annoying retcons. All the changes from GSC should make it into the game. It would really suck if Cinnabar Volcano never blown up, or something... I just hope they follow "Quod Scripsi Scripsi" principle and don't make such idiotic retcons.
 
Maxim Gwanjangnim said:
I'm just somewhat afraid that they'll retcon the thing about Eggs being a new discovery and the Steel-type being new. This will be done, in order not to make younger fans WTF. Of course, any older player, who knows GSC, would perfectly know what's going on...
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Why is this a bad thing?
 
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