Do you think they'll ever replace Ash with Dawn?

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IS there any possiblity that they might get ride of ash all together once he defeats cynthia or somthing like that and make a series around dawn?

there have been alot of hints and the writers have made her more active and a more important charaxcter than other side characters int he past.. Tracy, misty , brock, and may?
 
You act like Ash beating Cynthia is inevitable.

Dawn is a true co-star, yes. But it has been confirmed that she'll just be dumped for the Gen V girl when the next generation rolls around. Ash, Pikachu and Team Rocket are the only constants in this show.
 
Yeah! That's exactly what I've been assuming! And please change your title, it sounds more like a shipping thread!

I personally would like Ash story to end by the end of DP, at that time, he would have beaten the Kanto E4, and Dawn will take his place as the main character. That's the only explanation that I can think of considering how dare the writers are to equalize Dawn with Ash! I can stop watching the anime after the E4 challenge.
 
MistyBrockAsh said:
and make a series around dawn?
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The DP series is already about Dawn - she's as important as Ash in this series
They're starring together as equals
The reason for this is the games' gave an option to play as a girl so now they're doing the same with the anime (May was the first try, Dawn feels like "the real thing" since they learned from mistakes they did with May)

there have been alot of hints and the writers have made her more active and a more important charaxcter than other side characters int he past.. Tracy, misty , brock, and may?
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As I said the reason for this is appealing more to both boys and girls with a male and female heroes that star together

But it has been confirmed that she'll just be dumped for the Gen V girl when the next generation rolls around.
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It was NOT confirmed at all
If you refer to that interview - it was with ONE of tons of people who work on the show (who could also give his own opinion on the subject rather than a fact) and he didn't even clearly talk about Dawn but just said they like to use the girl heroine from the games (which they can do anyway by making her a rival, join the group while Dawn stay, if she looks very similar to Dawn than Dawn can easily change clothes/hair style and look exactly like her...)

Ash, Pikachu and Team Rocket are the only constants in this show.
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This also isn't a fact
They can easily replace them if they'll ever want
I can see it happen eventually but at least for the near future they're likely to stay

and Dawn will take his place as the main character.
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She can't take the place she already have

how dare the writers are to equalize Dawn with Ash
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Simply
To do the same thing they tried to do with May - appeal equally to both boys and girls just like the games did
Not to mention with May she was the one to leave eventually while Ash stayed... as much as it hurts me to say this - if only one of the two will stay than it'll probably be Ash again

But everything can happen so we can't say anything as a fact... we'll just have to wait and see
 
Piplup said:
But everything can happen so we can't say anything as a fact... we'll just have to wait and see
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Nice to see that you finally admit that you were overconfident.
Now, let's assume Ash will beat the E4 and stay to become one of them to be a Pokémon master (this thread is meant to have the assumption that Ash will beat the E4) since the E4 and champ are portrayed as the strongest trainers. Then Dawn will probably become the senior main character that will act as a teacher to the new hero. In present, Ash often has something to teach Dawn or Dawn learns from Ash herself. So I think Dawn will have something to teach the new guy. Dawn and Ash are pretty much of the same status now but there's still a slight differences between rookie and experienced trainer. And this will pass to Dawn and the new guy.
Let's wait and see which one will happen, the E4 challenge and Ash leaves or the two stay in the next Gen.
 
I never said I'll be right for sure about Dawn staying and actually admitted a lot of times it probably isn't that likely
I just hate to see people who think it's absolutely sure she'll leave
And somtimes when I see things like the CD covers, DVD covers, merchandise, Ash and Dawn starring as equals in movie 10, the new OP, the fact they're totally equals unlike with May, the fact Pip is now as important as Pika, and more... just cause me sometimes to find it hard to imagine the show without Dawn/Pip anymore... this is the same reason why Ash/Pika stay so after years of seeing Dawn/Pip as equals to them will it really be so easy to remove them?
 
Well, I would say it would be easy for the old fans but difficult for the new fans 'cause they just don't know about the case.
 
One thing I have to say, the shot in the opening with all the older characters is going to get pretty crowded soon after DP.

I said this in a few other threads, but I think what's best is if Ash's story is wrapped up in DP, with the final major battle of the series being Ash Vs. Cynthia.

That way everyone leaves together, and the show has a proper ending. I'm actually hoping DP wraps up the show, while the 5th gen stars the new boy and girl.
 
i would no longer be a fan if they get ride of ash i have been a fan since kanto and i have watched near all the older episodes i dont think i could take it


i hated it whn they got ride of misty

and i hated it when the got ride of may

if they get ride of ash who has been there for 14 years then i would think they have to end the show
 
Lol @ the idea that Ash has been on the show for now 12 seasons and he isn't a "constant" or "solidified" character... And yet Dawn gets her name and pic on the title screen of an opening with an out-going Piplup, and she's Ash's equal.

Anyway, MBA, I doubt they'd do that. If Ash is to get replaced then I'd think they'd just start with a whole new crew. And the theory that Dawn would take over--I don't think Contests will ever be as centralized or weighted as Gym battles.
 
Do you even watch the show? in DP Dawn IS an equal to Ash and Contests are clearly as important as Gyms
 
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Do you even watch the show? in DP Dawn IS an equal to Ash and Contests are clearly as important as Gyms
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Are you a writer for the show? Unless you are, quit acting like you know more than everyone else. Remember things are not always as they appear. Just because they SEEM to be equal, in the eyes of the creators the gym and Ash's story is still the more important one. The fact is, only time will tell.
 
What? Ask anyone else- most of the people will agree they're equals
You don't need to be a writer of a show to be able to understand who are the starring characters -_-
They even bothered to edit the text at the beginning of the openings to change "Ash" to "Ash and Dawn"
Like it or not - officially, the equals stars of DP are Ash and Dawn
And anyone who watch the show should know that
 
Piplup said:
Do you even watch the show? in DP Dawn IS an equal to Ash and Contests are clearly as important as Gyms
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Oh cut your little "Do you watch the show?" bullshit before it even begins. Do you realize that in every Dawn-related thread you attempt to fabricate supporting evidence for your arguments from the most meager examples, and that most of the time they're nothing more than pure speculation?

"Dawn has her name in the title with Ash!"
"Piplup appears to be the answer to Ash's Pikachu!"

It's these very arguments you use to say that 2 season (thus far), 1 region Dawn is an equal to Ash, and yet you're saying Ash isn't a fixated or constant character when he's been through 12 seasons as the main character. I've got a better question, have you even watched the show before DP? Ever? Of course I was gonna laugh at that.
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Now, if you're referring to the rest of what I said:

For the first half of DP, contests were a pretty big half of the show, sure. As you get to the latter eps that have yet to be dubbed, it's been focusing in more on Ash, his gym battles, and his rivals. Jun's entrance is a testament to that. With Dawn in possession of 3 ribbons thus far and about 3 major (known) cities to achieve the remaining 2, they're not going to keep up the Contest focus with the gyms, which has 4 gyms and 4 major cities.

And what's making DP any different than what they did with Hoenn or especially the Battle Frontier? In BF's shortened length, the Contests were focused in almost as much as the Frontier challenges. May's rivals were as well. But fans thus far have always tended to prefer gym battles more and it's far from likely that the Contests take their spot as the central focus of the show any time soon.

Speaking of May, what real "mistakes" did they make with her?

Also, you brought up the games at one point and mentioned Dawn's role in them. Yeah, well, also note the fact that in the games, the gyms are still and have always been the primary focus, whereas contests are still side-quests.
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By the way, boasting something with arrogance in your tone doesn't make something any more valid.
 
Piplup said:
What? Ask anyone else- most of the people will agree they're equals
You don't need to be a writer of a show to be able to understand who are the starring characters -_-
They even bothered to edit the text at the beginning of the openings to change "Ash" to "Ash and Dawn"
Like it or not - officially, the equals stars of DP are Ash and Dawn
And anyone who watch the show should know that
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"Ask anyone else" You know, you sound like Scott when he's talking about Johto, except you are talking about Dawn. Quit attempting to make you opinion the only correct one, and quit attempting to make it the opinion of the masses. Sure, there are those who will disagree.

"Like it or not" You are not God. You don't tell me that something is a certain way whether I like it or not. This is not a fact. It's not a fact that she's an equal, but it is a fact that she is one of the main characters in the show....who can be as easily replaced by another person as so many have been overtime. The only character who has never been replaced(other than the rockets) is Ash.

Finally, I watch the show. So get off your high horse and quit thinking that you're the only one that's right. Fact is, these are our opinions. The only people who can or cannot say we are right or wrong are the creators. Overtime, we will know who is right...till then...quit being so obnoxious and acting like a know-it-all....it's rather annoying.
 
they are not equals the appear it but ultimatly ashes story comes first before her

and gym battles are at this point more important to contest battles look at it this way
this show attracts boys more than girls
gym battles are the attraction for boys and contest are the attraction for girls
hence ash's story and the gym battles are more important

wait until dawn has been here for 12 seasons then you can tell me they are equal...

no that a solved that why dont you guys actually answer the question instead of debating if they are equal
 
MistyBrockAsh said:
they are not equals the appear it but ultimatly ashes story comes first before her

and gym battles are at this point more important to contest battles look at it this way
this show attracts boys more than girls
gym battles are the attraction for boys and contest are the attraction for girls
hence ash's story and the gym battles are more important

wait until dawn has been here for 12 seasons then you can tell me they are equal...

no that a solved that why dont you guys actually answer the question instead of debating if they are equal
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I did. If Ash is to get replaced, which I highly doubt, then I'd see them assembling an entire new crew as oppose to making a coordinator or the contests the main focus.
 
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