Do you want more or less New Pokémon Species in Generation 7 and beyond?

[Quetsol Melt]

As you may well already know we recently got 69 New Species of Pokémon in X and Y (72 with the unreleased Event Legends). While some people were bothered by the decision (myself included) many others were very well pleased with it. I have even started seeing several people around the community asking for even less New Pokémon in any possible future generations. What do you guys think about this whole debacle? What are hoping for in Generation 7? I can understand Game Freak wanting to make fewer less guys this generation. They had to work on creating 3D models for the other 649 Pokémon plus the 72 New Species from Kalos (plus Forms and Mega Evolution's). Also the animations for Attacks and Pokémon-Amie so yeah I don't hold it too much against them. I'm hoping since Game Freak will potentially keep using these models for a while in future games we at least get 100-115 New Pokémon next generation.

Please feel free to share your opinions

 

[Norzan]

Well i liked most of Gen 6 Pokemon so it didn't bothered me much that we got only 72 pokemon but in the next gen i would like around 90 new pokemon. And one of them better be a damn dolphin pokemon (yeah i'm not letting this go).

 

[Bolt Strike]

I think 100-120 is a good average, but I'm not too bummed about the lack of Pokemon.

 

[Stratelier]

To me, it's not so much the raw # of new Pokemon that matters but how visible the new species are, particularly in terms of early-game wild Pokemon encounters.

Consider that with Hoenn and Sinnoh, despite their generations including a large swath of previous-gen Pokemon, the early routes prominently featured only (or at least mostly) the new Pokemon species.

Johto did not. And more importantly Kalos does not. It feels to me like each route in Kalos had only 1-2 new species and 7-10 old ones (standout example: Kalos Route 8, tall grass contains 8 species but only Inkay is a Kalos native). Which of course made it awesome when you actually FIND a new Kalos species in a given route, but frustrating that it took a dozen encounters just to get it.

 

[Proxima Centauri B]

Im my opinion, while I dont think we need 150 each generation, but I felt Gen 6 had too few new Pokemon and too many older Pokemon crammed in. The new Pokemon should be the focus in a new generation and there should be a good number of them. I wouldve prefered Kalos to have around 100, and it just felt like they were not the focus. I think its bad when you have to encounter 10 Pokemon to find one of the new Pokemon in a game and gym leaders are not using new Pokemon.

 

[Team Gaara]

Like others have mentioned, it did suck having so many older Pokemon in comparison to the few new ones on routes and stuff, but I actually liked every one of the new ones, EXCEPT Hawlucha. With Gen V, there were a lot of mons, but I've never come close to using all of them and to this day, I've probably only trained maybe 10% of them. But I think that the larger amount of old Pokemon also may have been just GAME FREAK trying to give us a lot of pokes in the game so we wouldn't have to heavily rely on transferring when it came out.

Point being, it doesn't really matter to me how many we get, per say, just as long as next time they don't appear less frequently than old mons. I'd be fine if we got another 72; as long as they're all cool and make me want to use them, I could care less if there aren't 100 of them. Just put in less older pokes or do a BW thing where you can only catch older pokes after you beat the game so the new guys stand out.

 

[Peachy]

It honestly depends on the quality of them. As long as the majority of the new pokemon are well designed. And I know that "well designed" is a broad term, but I think that most people can agree is a pokemon is good or not. And I don't think we're at the point of "woah there's too many pokemon they need to stop" that some people think that the series is at. I wouldn't mind if Gen 7 pushed the total to around 850.

 

[Alola]

I think 100 more would be nice. That way, it isn't too much for Gamefreak and the fans will be happy.

 

[Bolt Strike]

Point being, it doesn't really matter to me how many we get, per say, just as long as next time they don't appear less frequently than old mons. I'd be fine if we got another 72; as long as they're all cool and make me want to use them, I could care less if there aren't 100 of them. Just put in less older pokes or do a BW thing where you can only catch older pokes after you beat the game so the new guys stand out.

BW only barely worked because there was a large amount of new Pokemon and more variety than usual, they wouldn't be able to get away with that with pretty much anything else. Remember in DP how there was a shortage of Fire types in the Sinnoh Dex? It'd be even worse if you only had the 6th gen Pokemon in the regional dex. There needs to be some mixture of old Pokemon in there for the sake of variety.

 

[lugia61617]

I agree that the number doesn't matter so long as they are distributed in a way that makes them feel like the "dominant species'" in their native region, as was the case with Hoenn.

Also, as the Bank now makes transferring pokemon up through each Generation ridiculously easy now, I would rather see more be introduced each generation (say around 100) so that I have more new species to go out and catch. I almost never complain about the designs of newer species simply because they're new and I find it easy to get to know them. Obviously there are some I don't learn to love but there's plenty that I do.

 

[HRRlion]

I prefer having less if each Pokemon is of a higher quality, including it's effectiveness competitively. I wouldn't even mind 50 new pokemon per gen seeing as many pokemon are filller, like Bidoof line, Lumineon line, Kricketot line, the horde of baby pokemon, etc. Ofcourse that's all subjective but realistically, how often do pokemon like that get used? That said, I wish GF hadn't dropped the regional trio. I kow their cutting down on legends but with only 3 in-game (the cover legends) and 3 event pokemon it does feel a little odd, especially after gens 4 and 5 where we had a ridiculous amount of legends available.

 

[Silktree]

I kow their cutting down on legends but with only 3 in-game (the cover legends) and 3 event pokemon it does feel a little odd, especially after gens 4 and 5 where we had a ridiculous amount of legends available.

The number of Sinnoh and Unova legendaries is what felt odd to me.

 

[Gomez16]

100+ new mons and I would love every possible type combination to have at least 1 pokemon.

 

[Figgles]

The distribution thing is a very valid point, but I still think that Kalos had a bit too few, especially considering it's massive size compared to previous gens. A 85-90 Mon figure would be much better if Gen 7's region has a comparable size.

 

[Team Gaara]

BW only barely worked because there was a large amount of new Pokemon and more variety than usual, they wouldn't be able to get away with that with pretty much anything else. Remember in DP how there was a shortage of Fire types in the Sinnoh Dex? It'd be even worse if you only had the 6th gen Pokemon in the regional dex. There needs to be some mixture of old Pokemon in there for the sake of variety.

Well, the hypothetical statement wasn't really geared towards Gen 6, but future generations (To be honest, I hadn't noticed that when I had DP because I started with Chimchar). And there can be old Pokemon, but not more than the newcomers is what I was saying. If they were gonna do another BW thing, it would be best if they introduced a lot of new Pokemon. But if they only introduced a few, they just need to make the newer Pokes stand out more.

 

[Muur]

The more the merrier.

 

[Orion-Sama]

I really don't mind quantity too much, but ultimately, the more there are, the easier it is to find Pokémon you will like. I didn't like many Pokémon in 6th Gen, though luckily I could find them easily, which is better than GS did. Quantitatively there was little focus on them, but I had little trouble finding the new species despite the quantity of old species. Only a few odd cases like Noibat took a while to find.

The only thing I disliked in XY was the lack of at least the classic Legendary trio. Something like the Birds, Beasts, Regis, etc. With the introduction of Fairies, they could have had a Pixie Trio or something. Ah well, let's hope 7th Gen goes back to at least a 2nd Gen-esque setup. Preferably a lot of new Pokémon though, like all previous odd numbered Gens, though.

 

[Silktree]

With the introduction of Fairies, they could have had a Pixie Trio or something.

Been there and done that. It doesn't matter that the Lake trio aren't Fairy-type, which they should be.

 

[Zeb]

While I wasn't happy when I saw there were few new Pokemon (in comparison to usual of at least 100), I must admit I don't mind too much right now as the majority of them have good designs, bring a lot of new or rare type combinations or just have something different about them, in such a small bunch - so even though the group is smaller, the majority don't feel repetitive or seem like something we've had generations prior. We were given all new starter typings, finally a fast Water starter, very powerful regional bird and mammal(!!!), some cool new typings like Ghost/Grass, Psychic/Dark, Electric/Normal, Fire/Normal, Fight/Flying, Normal/Ground, Ghost/Steel, Poison/Dragon, Rock/Dragon, Rock/Ice..., a whole army of Fairies, no Dragon trio as the mascots (etc). So it still feels very fresh and interesting with a small amount.

Going forward though, I would still like to see larger number of new Pokemon in the next generation than we got this time. I play Pokemon solely for the Pokemon, so it's always a good thing to have more selection of new Pokemon to choose from for your playthroughs and grow to like (or like at first sight in some cases). Plus seeing the new designs and inspirations is interesting in itself (and exciting in pre-release stages).

I wouldn't be surprised if they included Megas in the new Pokemon count though. We got around 30 Megas, add that onto the 72 new Pokemon and we reach over 100, which is close to the minimum we've had previously. Megas in themselves are pretty much new Pokemon, they have different designs, stats, abilities, and even types in some cases, so they are pretty much like completely brand new Pokemon/evolutions for the older Pokemon. I can understand why we have less if they included Megas.

And we haven't had Z yet. Who knows what surprises will be in store there.

but I actually liked every one of the new ones, EXCEPT Hawlucha.

 

[Bolt Strike]

Well, the hypothetical statement wasn't really geared towards Gen 6, but future generations (To be honest, I hadn't noticed that when I had DP because I started with Chimchar). And there can be old Pokemon, but not more than the newcomers is what I was saying. If they were gonna do another BW thing, it would be best if they introduced a lot of new Pokemon. But if they only introduced a few, they just need to make the newer Pokes stand out more.

Fair enough. But if they create a small amount of new Pokemon like they did this gen, it's going to be impossible to have both a majority of new Pokemon and a decent variety of Pokemon in the regional dex. 72 Pokemon is just too few to make that work.