Does anyone loathe or love the fillers so far?

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Because after that kickass episode between Paul and Ash and even though Ash lost, it gave a great buildup to turn things around in the League. And yet, we're still stuck in the fillers until either Dawn gets her last ribbon, Team Galatic's finale, or the last town/Ash's final badge. Dunno if it's the writer's planning stage or they're holding out on us?

Don't mean to sound mean but I haven't dug the recent episodes with excitement, but here's hoping that it doesn't end up like Johto because I'm liking the shape of the season so far.

Anyone else like or loathe the fillers?
 
I don't see how it can end up like Jouto when we're getting close to the end and most of the fillers have been enjoyable.

But I guess I just answered your question. Yeah, there have been a few dull episodes, but overall I like most of the filler episodes. Especially since the Rocket-Dan got so screwed over in AG, and Takeshi gets to do some things in fillers as well.
 
It's like this - we have to have fillers, as everyone knows. Or the show could not continue as the epic saga it has to in order to reach the next gen. What Shinou has done is reduce the number. Stuff happens in a lot more episodes than previous, and that's a good thing, because filler quality became hugely worse after Kanto/(just about) OI.

However, I haven't found Shinou fillers to be as boring as AG/obviously Jouto. AG gave us some gems, but also a lot of shit IMO, whereas Shinou gives us nothing special, but generally nothing too poor. Jouto... let's not go there.
 
ii kanji said:
However, I haven't found Shinou fillers to be as boring as AG/obviously Jouto. AG gave us some gems, but also a lot of shit IMO, whereas Shinou gives us nothing special, but generally nothing too poor. Jouto... let's not go there.
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This is exactly how I feel. Although I'd honestly rather take the the mixed bag of awful and amazing fillers, a la AG, I'm not really complaining here, since the vast majority of Sinnoh's fillers have been at least mildly enjoyable, though like kanji said, there isn't anything too extraordinary.
 
I prefer a string of important episodes separated by some standard fillers.

When the writers do too many pure fillers in a row, people get bored, but if they place them between important episodes, its not that bad.

I think the only problem now is that since the 5th gen is so far off, the writers have to stretch out Sinnoh for a good number of episodes. Already Sinnoh has 137 episodes and Ash only has 7 badges, this region could get around 160 episodes or so before it ends.

Generally its not a big deal. When I rewatch the show, I skip some of the worse fillers that I didn't like, and only really rewatch the good fillers and the important episodes.
 
I prefer a string of important episodes separated by some standard fillers.

When the writers do too many pure fillers in a row, people get bored, but if they place them between important episodes, its not that bad.

I think the only problem now is that since the 5th gen is so far off, the writers have to stretch out Sinnoh for a good number of episodes. Already Sinnoh has 137 episodes and Ash only has 7 badges, this region could get around 160 episodes or so before it ends.

Generally its not a big deal. When I rewatch the show, I skip some of the worse fillers that I didn't like, and only really rewatch the good fillers and the important episodes.
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Same here. It does get broing when too many fillers appear. Sinnoh your right has to streach out for as long as possible and it will end up being longer than Advanced I think.

I think a few of the earlier fillers were bad like "A staravia is born" or "Sleight of Sand" but later ones have been better, like the Summer school 3 episodes. Now Pika and Goliath episode was ok, had a reused plot, but I kinda liked it, watching it too much would make you not want to see it again as I have seen it 3 times or more and don't like it so much now, but the first time is good, it was good to revisit the thunderstone idea.

I watched the episode of Battle Dimention with the 3 psyduck blocking the route, yesterday and I liked it, I did see it once before, did not have much of a point but I suppose they did something like it was in games with the psyduck and you needeing the secret potion from Cynthia to cure their headaches?

The way I think the show would work better if they had a few serious episodes, like battles, then lighten things with a few fillers, then get serious again. Seriousness all the time is bad but so is fillers. For example:

We have say Ash training hard for a gym, we get the gym episode and after is over and he wins, we get a couple of fillers to show the gang taking things a little easier...something like when the new trainer tried to capture the yanma and it ended up with jessie and she got Yanmega. Then maybe focus on Dawn and her contests, then have one filler maybe then go back to Ash again.
 
I think at this point, the writers generally have no choice.

The shortest regions, (such as Kanto, Orange and Battle Frontier), generally have few bad fillers, its only the longer regions that get into trouble.

But the writers have no choice. A new gen doesn't start till every 4-5 years, so unless they make up another anime-only saga like the Orange Islands again, they had to stretch out regions over 3 years.
 
But the writers have no choice. A new gen doesn't start till every 4-5 years, so unless they make up another anime-only saga like the Orange Islands again, they had to stretch out regions over 3 years.
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Well if they don't finish this region until the start of next year (Might happen given the pace of episodes) we might indeed have Johto BF, at this point I am just accepting this might be the case and this could take up the peorid until the next gen. Wonder if chronicles will ever make an apperance again?
 
Maybe it's just me, but I've found some of the fillers to be more enjoyable than the plot episodes. I'm surprised how many people think they're just average.

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whereas Shinou gives us nothing special,
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DP117 says hello.
 
I've liked a lot of the Sinnoh fillers so far.

I'm a horrible person, I know.
 
Boron said:
The Johto fillers were better than the Hoenn fillers, actually.
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Not all of them. Some Johto fillers were hilarious I agree, but the bulk of the fillers between Whitney and Jasmine had no reason to exist other than to fill time.

Looking through the episode list on Bulbapedia, I count about 40 pure fillers in Hoenn out of 130 episodes. And some of those fillers were quite funny like, "The Bicker the better," "Sharpedo Attack," Claydol Big and Tall," "Once in a Mawhile," "Which Wurmples Which," and so forth.

I'm too lazy to type out more at this point.
 
I maintain that fillers are generally more acceptable if the plots surrounding them are enjoyable. Y'know, if I'm liking Ash's Gym Battles and having fun with Dawn's contests and Pokemon are getting caught and evolving and learning new moves left and right... then fillers are great! I always like a chance to 'show off' (so to speak) a new entry or technique in the family.

I will also put forth the idea that in the beginning of a new series, fillers tend to be more enjoyable. Whether it's the whole Fresh! and New! feeling wafting over us... or strokes of genius and creativity coming from the guys behind the scenes... or even just a high-tolerance for the same ol' shit (shtick! I meant shtick!) on our part because we're patient for the cool new stuff, the fillers near the start of any region will be higher on the scale than some of the latest dealings.

And that brings to mind yet another opinion. This comes from my own experiences and tastes, but if I'm itchin' for the plot to go somewhere or speed up 'cause I'm anxious to see how a particular fight is going to play out (Team Galactic or Ash vs Volkner, for instance), then I don't CARE about fillers! Get to the good stuff! And make it snappy.
 
I like fillers. Except johto fillers. But I don't like johto in general, so...
 
Rocket Girl said:
Maybe it's just me, but I've found some of the fillers to be more enjoyable than the plot episodes. I'm surprised how many people think they're just average.
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Don't get me wrong, I love plenty of fillers over several plot episodes (which were crap) but in terms of pure filler, we haven't really got anything stellar because I refuse to admit that DP 117 is just a filler!! :p
 
I've liked some of them, nothing too spectacular. I like Pika and Goliath, that one about Abigale and Sugar, and the summer school.

I like you think of it this way. It could be like DBZ and have an episode of grunting and yelling at eachother, or to do one transformation.
 
Do the Cheryl eps count as fillers? If so, they are the best DP fillers I've seen so far. Of course, I have not yet seen all eps, so that might change in the future.
 
It's ridiculous to care if an ep is "filler" or not
A lot of "fillers" are better than plot eps
And it's funny how people call just -everything- "filler" - see how someone in this thread called the Starly evolution ep a "filler"
People are getting worse with the time... let's just call the episodes, you know... episodes, OMGWTFFFF and stop using stupid fan made terms like "filler"
It doesn't matter if an ep is "important" or not - all that matters is if the ep was entertaining... and both kinds of eps can be either bad or good
 
Piplup said:
It's ridiculous to care if an ep is "filler" or not
A lot of "fillers" are better than plot eps
And it's funny how people call just -everything- "filler" - see how someone in this thread called the Starly evolution ep a "filler"
People are getting worse with the time... let's just call the episodes, you know... episodes, OMGWTFFFF and stop using stupid fan made terms like "filler"
It doesn't matter if an ep is "important" or not - all that matters is if the ep was entertaining... and both kinds of eps can be either bad or good
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filler_(media)

We could always say "Anime Original", but filler is so widely accepted and commonly used that people use it without a second thought. If I said "skin-wrapped meat tube" when I meant to say Hot Dog, you'd probably get confused. Or disgusted.

The tastes of fillers are also plenty subjective. We have established that. A person who likes one filler isn't going to like his neighbor's favorite filler. We also have a consensus for episodes, too, where the majority agree that it was Acceptable or Non-acceptable.

Don't let what one person says get to ya. They could be upset that the characters weren't wearing white while dancing to a Hoedown and unjustly claim an eppy to be bad.
 
V Faction said:
Don't let what one person says get to ya. They could be upset that the characters weren't wearing white while dancing to a Hoedown and unjustly claim an eppy to be bad.
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For the record, I would love this.

But yeah, I agree. It's just a word, a label to distinguish one type of episode from another. I don't see it as anything inherently degrading, it's just that some people like them and some don't.
 
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