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Does Daisy exist in this continuity?

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Daisy Oak. Green's big sister.

She has no been referenced even slightly in the anime. She's a Sevii Island/Leaf. However do you think she exists? In Movie 3 Gary wasn't in that picture, so maybe he was with her? Even if not, maybe she does exist.

Maybe she will pop up. They could make her a coordinator like they retired Johanna, or at least let her be referenced.
 
Somari said:
Daisy Oak. Green's big sister.

She has no been referenced even slightly in the anime. She's a Sevii Island/Leaf. However do you think she exists? In Movie 3 Gary wasn't in that picture, so maybe he was with her? Even if not, maybe she does exist.

Maybe she will pop up. They could make her a coordinator like they retired Johanna, or at least let her be referenced.
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I'm pretty sure that she exists. I mean, if her not appearing or even being referenced was supposed to imply she doesn't exist, then Dawn's father must obviously not exist due to the same logic, even though that's logically impossible (How can Dawn exist if her Dad doesn't. I mean, if she's Jesus Christ, then yeah, there is a possibility for her to be born without a human father, but besides that, it's impossible.).
 
Weedle Mchairybug said:
I'm pretty sure that she exists. I mean, if her not appearing or even being referenced was supposed to imply she doesn't exist, then Dawn's father must obviously not exist due to the same logic, even though that's logically impossible (How can Dawn exist if her Dad doesn't. I mean, if she's Jesus Christ, then yeah, there is a possibility for her to be born without a human father, but besides that, it's impossible.).
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There's a difference between a missing sibling and human nature. Of course Dawn has a father, so does Misty, so does Tracey, so does Jessie, it doesn't mean we need to see them.

Daisy is basically "the absence of evidence, doesn't equal the evidence of absence", just like with Gary's parents. I mean if they never referenced it for 13 years, that Ash's main rival for the first 5 years of the show had a sister, Professor Oak's other grandchild, it doesn't necessarily mean there's no sister, but that she's not important to the show.
 
I guess we´ll never know...but even if he has one,she must not be too important to him or he would have mention her at last once...
 
She doesn't really have a place in the anime due to the fact that she's really unimportant as far as the game's plot is concerned.

The only time that you had to interact with her in the game was to get the Town Map at the very begining. Even then this is easily skipped and you never have to see or talk to her ever again for the rest of the game.

The only time that it would have been especially suitable to introduce such a character would have been in the very first episode of the anime. However, it seemed that they were far more interested in just introducing Ash and Pikachu and setting up their somewhat vague goal of being a "Pokémon Master".

Gary, Professor Oak and Ash's Mom were also important for at least the first half of the episode as well. It's also possible that they were also more interested in introducing the main female lead: Misty, who is actually a far more interesting character to work with then Daisy.

Granted, they could have had a sub-plot with Daisy being Ash's main crush, like in the Electric Tale of Pikachu manga. But with Ash's character development going towards being the utlimate "Chaste Hero" who is utterly clueless about anything romantic, this avenue makes it extremely unlikely to be taken.
 
Considering her inclusion in the games and whatnot from the beginning, I think she does. But since they are hardly ever in Pallet Town, there just didn't seem to be a reason to create a character for her.
 
It would make Oak REALLY young when he started. He's barely over 50, according to the 4th movie, and for him to have a 16-year-old granddaughter would mean he became a grandfather at around 34.
 
Iron Mask Marauder said:
It would make Oak REALLY young when he started. He's barely over 50, according to the 4th movie, and for him to have a 16-year-old granddaughter would mean he became a grandfather at around 34.
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Babies making babies, man. Babies making babies. And with all that poetry, and those sweet slacks? Don't you dare try to tell me that he wasn't SWIMMING in trim when he was younger.
 
Iron Mask Marauder said:
It would make Oak REALLY young when he started. He's barely over 50, according to the 4th movie, and for him to have a 16-year-old granddaughter would mean he became a grandfather at around 34.
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Everyone grows up fast in the Pokemon world it seems. 10 years old practically makes you an adult.
 
I don't think that Daisy (Oak) exists in the anime. I don't recall any episodes when she's mentioned.
 
Aladar said:
Not appearing isn't equal to not existing.
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With that logic, Harley has a wife. I mean, there's no evidence that she doesn't exist, right?

Characters' parents are about the only people who can get away with not showing up, for obvious reasons. As far as I'm concerned, people like siblings and friends and other minor characters don't exist in the TV series' continuity until proven otherwise.
 
Dogasu said:
With that logic, Harley has a wife. I mean, there's no evidence that she doesn't exist, right?

Characters' parents are about the only people who can get away with not showing up, for obvious reasons. As far as I'm concerned, people like siblings and friends and other minor characters don't exist in the TV series' continuity until proven otherwise.
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I agree with Dogasu on this one, if Daisy existed in the anime, we would have seen her, so until we actually do, I'll consider Gary an only child.
 
Dogasu said:
With that logic, Harley has a wife. I mean, there's no evidence that she doesn't exist, right?

Characters' parents are about the only people who can get away with not showing up, for obvious reasons. As far as I'm concerned, people like siblings and friends and other minor characters don't exist in the TV series' continuity until proven otherwise.
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Well, I didn't specify here- since she is shown existing in all other works, a person so close to Ash's first and probably greatest rival has high chances of existing in the anime as well.
 
Iron Mask Marauder said:
It would make Oak REALLY young when he started. He's barely over 50, according to the 4th movie, and for him to have a 16-year-old granddaughter would mean he became a grandfather at around 34.
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With D/P stating that Rowan is 60 and is Oak's senior, I'm wondering if they're trying to make Oak around 50 in the games too.
 
We've known Gary since the first episode, and it's been 600+ episodes. I think if Gary's sister existed, we would've seen her by now.

Nothing consequential has happened to Gary's birth with the absence of a sister, which I couldn't say for Gary's mom. So I can believe Gary has a mom and dad, but not a sister.
 
Iron Mask Marauder said:
It would make Oak REALLY young when he started. He's barely over 50, according to the 4th movie, and for him to have a 16-year-old granddaughter would mean he became a grandfather at around 34.
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In an anime where the protagonist or anyone else isn't allowed to age, I think calculating ages of other characters won't do us any good at all.
 
Rex Kamex said:
We've known Gary since the first episode, and it's been 600+ episodes. I think if Gary's sister existed, we would've seen her by now.
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I'd be willing to follow this logic if not for the fact that Shigeru's barely even appeared at all ever since his introduction. Honestly, you could probably count the number of appearances he's made on your hands (maybe not one hand, but still).

PDL said:
Granted, they could have had a sub-plot with Daisy being Ash's main crush, like in the Electric Tale of Pikachu manga. But with Ash's character development going towards being the utlimate "Chaste Hero" who is utterly clueless about anything romantic, this avenue makes it extremely unlikely to be taken.
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Satsuki was cute... I just wanted to say that. ^^ Shame that was the only media she appeared in, technically anyway... even if she did sport the name "Nanami" in that particular manga, it's not as if any other incarnations of Shigeru's sister sported Ono's design.

Iron Mask Marauder said:
It would make Oak REALLY young when he started. He's barely over 50, according to the 4th movie, and for him to have a 16-year-old granddaughter would mean he became a grandfather at around 34.
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teen-age parents? Well, given what your average 15-year-old anime character looks like, I certainly wouldn't blame them. ^^

Dogasu said:
Characters' parents are about the only people who can get away with not showing up, for obvious reasons.
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er, not so obvious. With the wonders of test tube babies and artificial insemination, it's technically possible for people to have strictly one parent, at least in the social sense (and maybe even the biological sense if you bypass all the egg-fertilization stuff and simply count it as "they didn't do the nasty", which a lot of cultures might consider). But yeah, this kinda thing never seems to come up in anime (and if it does, the character in question is explicitly stated to be a clone, an aspect that is almost always crucial to the storyline somehow). Though, I am curious about the fact that Satoshi's father has at least gotten a mention whereas Hikari's...
 
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