Double Battle Team *RMT*

[Anthony Von Hertzon]

Team Note: This is for the VGC so that's why there are only four.
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Zapdos@ life orb/choice specs/X
Nature: Modest/Timid
EVs: 252 sp. atk, 252 speed, 4 hp
-heat wave
-discharge
-roost
-light screen

Garchomp@ yache berry
Nature: Jolly, Adamant
EVs: 200 atk, 200 speed, 108 HP
-Earthquake
-Outrage
-dragon claw
-stone edge

Garchomp and Zapdos will be up first and the idea with this pair is to hit with Discharge and Earthquake. That way both of my pokemon are hitting both of the enemy pokemon with one move, the partner isn't getting hurt because of the immunity. Zapdos being part flying being immune to ground type attacks and Garchomp being immune to electric attacks. If necessary, Zapdos can also pull off a heat wave to hit pokes that resist both discharge and Equake. Dragon claw and outrage are powerful dragon moves that can hit practically anything that earthquake cant. The things that Garchomp would have a problem with are levitating steel types or ones that are part flying, such as skarmory and bronzong. Zapdos can use heat wave to finish them off.

Rayquaza @ Life Orb
Ability: Air Lock
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant
Swords Dance
Dragon Claw
Extremespeed
Earthquake

Flygon@choice band/life orb/berry
Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 252 atk/252 spd/4 hp
Moves:
-Equake
-Heat Wave
-Outrage
-Tailwind

Flygon is immune to Zapdos's Discharge and will resist its heat wave. It is also immune to earthquake so if Zapdos faints, not Garchomp, it can come in as an excellent partner for it. Although, not as excellent as if Garchomp had fainted since the two earthquakes would lack coverage and special attack isn't Flygon's forte. However, if necessary, Flygon can pull off heat wave to hit pesky levitating steels and hit both enemies at the same time. Tail wind is for team support and Outrage is a powerful dragon STAB.


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Other things I've considered:
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Togekiss with Follow me and Poliwrath with Belly drum. The only difference is that I'll be sure Poliwrath will survive after his HP is cut and if he survives he wouldn't receive the health boost from a surf.

A Physical quagsire instead of Poliwrath, though I wanted my water absorber that was paired with Empoleon to be bulky with sweeping potential. Quagsire, IMO, didn't cut it for me with his lack luster speed and sp. def. I also considered Lapras, politoed, and Vaporeon. However, they all specialize in the specials and I wanted a Physical sweeper to be paired with Empoleon so I couldn't be completely shut down by a physical or special wall team.

Infernape@life orb
Nature: Naive
EVs: sp. atk/atk/speed (what to invest in?)
Moves:
-flame thrower
-close combat
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Final note:

I've really struggled with getting this planned out, double battles are confusing and even though I've read a lot about them I still am a little shaky. This would be my first VGC event I've been to and I want to do somewhat decent. The Garchomp IS bred and has 5 perfect IVs . The imperfect one is sp. atk and I'm ok with that.

 

[coolking503]

VGC allows to nonevent Ubers, so you can add a couple ubers in. note that garchomp and zapdos are not considered ubers in VGC

 

[Badal]

again let me tell you this:
VGC is a tournament that allows exploit of the Ubers tier. This is a place where you should use Ubers.
Keeping this in mind:

Ineligible Pokémon

The following Pokémon NOT eligible for use in the tournament:
151 - Mew
251 - Celebi
385 - Jirachi
386 - Deoxys
489 - Phione
490 - Manaphy
491 - Darkrai
492 - Shaymin
493 - Arceus

You should build a team with Ubers.
Kyogre and Groudon are commonly used Ubers. These 2 along with Dialga/Palkia are a good team. I would suggest you re-model your team with this information.

 

[Cheesus Is Lord]

I have a question about Zapdos' moveset. I understand why you didn't go with the Shoddy standard HP Grass/Ice. But why Signal Beam in particular as opposed to some other move?

 

[Angad]

Replace Empoleon with Rest + Sleep Talk Kyogre
With the following moveset

Leftovers
Modest
EVs 240 HP / 244 Def / 24 Spe
Moveset
~ Rest
~ Sleep Talk
~ Surf
~ Ice Beam

And Also think about replacing Garchomp With Rayquaza.

 

[Anthony Von Hertzon]

Replace Empoleon with Rest + Sleep Talk Kyogre
With the following moveset

Leftovers
Modest
EVs 240 HP / 244 Def / 24 Spe
Moveset
~ Rest
~ Sleep Talk
~ Surf
~ Ice Beam

And Also think about replacing Garchomp With Rayquaza.

Why exactly? I also dont wish to use many legendaries because that means more soft resetting something I honestly cant stand. If I want good IVs and a good nature I'll have to soft reset. I'll take breeding over that any day.

I have a question about Zapdos' moveset. I understand why you didn't go with the Shoddy standard HP Grass/Ice. But why Signal Beam in particular as opposed to some other move?

Yea I wasn't quite sure what to do with Zapdos. What do you suggest?

again let me tell you this:
VGC is a tournament that allows exploit of the Ubers tier. This is a place where you should use Ubers.
Keeping this in mind:


You should build a team with Ubers.
Kyogre and Groudon are commonly used Ubers. These 2 along with Dialga/Palkia are a good team. I would suggest you re-model your team with this information.

VGC allows to nonevent Ubers, so you can add a couple ubers in. note that garchomp and zapdos are not considered ubers in VGC

I thought you could only have 2 legendaries per team?

 

[Badal]

Why exactly? I also dont wish to use many legendaries because that means more soft resetting something I honestly cant stand. If I want good IVs and a good nature I'll have to soft reset. I'll take breeding over that any day.
I thought you could only have 2 legendaries per team?

Exactly and thats why you should add it. When you have an opportunity to make it better you should. If you're going to be lazy and say "Oh I don't want to have legendaries since its going to be too much hardwork getting them." Then why do you want to get a better team? Everything requires hardwork. If you want to make your team better you have to get the legendaries.

 

[Cheesus Is Lord]

I really can't think of another good offensive move for Zapdos except for Thunder (in case you run into an always-popular Rain Dance team). However, Zapdos does learn a variety of support moves that are good in doubles. Possibilities include T-Wave, Protect, Tailwind and Light Screen. I asked mainly because I was unsure on what I would do with this Zapdos and wondered if you had something in mind.

 

[Anthony Von Hertzon]

Exactly and thats why you should add it. When you have an opportunity to make it better you should. If you're going to be lazy and say "Oh I don't want to have legendaries since its going to be too much hardwork getting them." Then why do you want to get a better team? Everything requires hardwork. If you want to make your team better you have to get the legendaries.

Ok ok, point taken, especially since I looked at Rayquaza's stats and freaked...do you have any suggestions for Rayquaza?

I really can't think of another good offensive move for Zapdos except for Thunder (in case you run into an always-popular Rain Dance team). However, Zapdos does learn a variety of support moves that are good in doubles. Possibilities include T-Wave, Protect, Tailwind and Light Screen. I asked mainly because I was unsure on what I would do with this Zapdos and wondered if you had something in mind.

Light screen added. Thanks!

 

[Badal]

Ok ok, point taken, especially since I looked at Rayquaza's stats and freaked...do you have any suggestions for Rayquaza?

Ya loads. I'd personally say:
Rayquaza @ Life Orb
Ability: Air Lock
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant
Swords Dance
Dragon Claw
Extremespeed
Flamethrower

This works well. You can interchange Flamethrower and Earthquake depending on if I know what's best to use beforehand.It's also the only safe switch against Water Spout Kyogre (there are more but I prefer him) leads, since Rayquaza resists Water Spout and Air Lock negates the Rain boost.

 

[PlatinumDude]

Ya loads. I'd personally say:
Rayquaza @ Life Orb
Ability: Air Lock
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant
Swords Dance
Dragon Claw
Extremespeed
Flamethrower

This works well. You can interchange Flamethrower and Earthquake depending on if I know what's best to use beforehand.It's also the only safe switch against Water Spout Kyogre (there are more but I prefer him) leads, since Rayquaza resists Water Spout and Air Lock negates the Rain boost.

Why Flamethrower? It doesn't pack enough power in Ubers. Rayquaza's better off with Fire Blast or Overheat with a Naughty/Lonely nature and the 4 remaining EVs in Special Attack.

 

[Badal]

Ubers is a tier where you can't afford to miss and its HIT go HIT go. So thats why Flamethrower over Fire Blast.

I usually play Heavy Offense and thus Adamant, but again its up to the user.

 

[PlatinumDude]

Ubers is a tier where you can't afford to miss and its HIT go HIT go. So thats why Flamethrower over Fire Blast.

I usually play Heavy Offense and thus Adamant, but again its up to the user.

The Uber environment is all about power. Well, almost, considering the fact that there's some stalling involved. And, yeah, Flamethrower is used sometimes in Ubers, right?

 

[Badal]

The Uber environment is all about power. Well, almost, considering the fact that there's some stalling involved. And, yeah, Flamethrower is used sometimes in Ubers, right?

Its used quite commonly.

 

[Anthony Von Hertzon]

Ya loads. I'd personally say:
Rayquaza @ Life Orb
Ability: Air Lock
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant
Swords Dance
Dragon Claw
Extremespeed
Earthquake

This works well. You can interchange Flamethrower and Earthquake depending on if I know what's best to use beforehand.It's also the only safe switch against Water Spout Kyogre (there are more but I prefer him) leads, since Rayquaza resists Water Spout and Air Lock negates the Rain boost.

Ok, I'll probably put Equake on it instead of flame thrower so I can hit both of the pokemon on the other team. However, now I need a partner for it. Preferably one that is immune to Equake and can hit a levitating/magnet rising steel typewith a powerful super effective attack (other then ground type attack). Or, a pokemon that can use gravity. Also to consider, is that it would have to work well with Zapdos and Garchomp and still function with Rayquaza. If Zapdos faints and Garchomp doesn't then it will have to go in along side Garchomp, that or rayquaza. I think the perfect choice would be:

Flygon@choice band/life orb/berry
Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 252 atk/252 spd/4 hp
Moves:
-Equake
-Heat Wave
-Outrage
-Tailwind

Flygon is immune to Zapdos's Discharge and will resist its heat wave. It is also immune to earthquake so if Zapdos faints, not Garchomp, it can come in as an excellent partner for it. Although, not as excellent as if Garchomp had fainted since the two earthquakes would lack coverage and special attack isn't Flygon's forte. However, if necessary, Flygon can pull off heat wave to hit pesky levitating steels and hit both enemies at the same time. Tail wind is for team support and Outrage is a powerful dragon STAB.

Flygon will also work with Rayquaza too, correct?
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The other pokemon that crossed my mind is infernape. With its mixed sweeper capability it can hit levitating steel types real nice with STAB fire and fighting combos to hit the steels in their defensive weak spot (def/sp. def). However, he doesn't really work well with Garchomp's earthquake and although isn't weak to it, I wouldn't like it to take damage for discharge from Zapdos. He'd have a hard time dealing with Rayquaza's Equake as well.
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Do you have any suggestions?