DP Ash: More Captures than AG?

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Well, thanks to episode summaries, we now know that Ash is going to already have a team of 4 Pokemon before he even reaches the first Gym, a much different situation than AG. It makes me wonder if Ash is going to capture more Pokemon than usual in DP, since he only has to get his Water-type and his Fire-type following Episode five before we end up with the standard Ash team.

Of course, Hikari will still have to collect her complete party, but it would still feel a tad lopsided if Ash only got two more captures till the Shinou League.

Since there's a larger number of new Pokemon in Gen 4 than in any previous generation (or at least according to certain interviews) might they want to showcase more by giving Ash the ability to switch in between a larger team?
 
Considering their may be "lots of new evos", perhaps some of his Labbed Pokemon may receive those?
 
I doubt it.

Ash has the same types every region, so we can expect him to get a new fire and water one sometime in D/P.

Aipom counts as his "special" type (like Snorlax, Heracross, Donphan and Glalie).

Brock probably won't have more than a team of three, (and I only think Bonsly is coming with him)

Hikari may have the same amount of Pokemon May had, which was only 5 for Hoenn.
 
In the Battle Frontier, Ash made a step in that direction, so rotation could make sense. Though several of his captures would get shafted.
 
It's unlikely that Aipom will hang around too long into Shino. It's fairly clear that it's only really there to make sure Ash:

A) Has something other than Pikachu so the first 3 episodes can work
B) Has a fairly weak but established Pokemon to use until his new Shino Pokemon can take over
C) Can probably have some fanservicey moment involving an Aipom/Hikozaru battle.

I still don't buy that there's an Aipom evolution awaiting us - especially now that the games are so close - something like that would have been revealed weeks after catching the thing, without question.

If there somehow is, then Aipom is likely to hang around till about Ep 20 or so, evolve and probably be either Oak'd soon after (like Heracross) or kept around as a genuine Shino Pokemon representation.

If there isn't an evo, Aipom will be gone by about the third gym - I'd say.

Also, consider the fact that Ash had no fire type at all throughout the Battle Frontier - it's possible Ash's "standard" will get shook up in this and we could see him with a more irregular team - which would be nice.

Personally, i'd love to see a fully-fledged Fighting type on his squad. And a Psychic type.
 
Aipom is already all over the D/P merchandize.

It has its own keychain, its on the spinning top scan, and so forth.

The writers wouldn't bother to give him a Johto Pokemon if it weren't sticking long term.
 
I'm like 75% sure he will, especially with that Ishihara announcing alot of old Pokemon would get evos.
 
There's no reason that Aipom is one of them. Especially since it's likely we've already seen them all - they're unlikely to not announce the pre/evolutions before the games come out.
 
??????

We've seen only 3 evos, and Ishihara said "lots of new ways to evolve old Pokemon".

I seriously doubt it.
 
There's no reason that Aipom is one of them. Especially since it's likely we've already seen them all - they're unlikely to not announce the pre/evolutions before the games come out.

Tyrogue, Porygon 2, Scizor, and several other GSC evos/pre-evos were not released until the games were actually out in Japan. All of the babies and evolutions don't always come first.

Also, consider the fact that Ash had no fire type at all throughout the Battle Frontier - it's possible Ash's "standard" will get shook up in this and we could see him with a more irregular team - which would be nice.

I think the writers are still having trouble topping Charizard. With Cyndaquil and Torkoal, they went the opposite directions - making them the weakest members of Ash's team, at least emotionally. Thus, they didn't work out. Hopefully they'll just go ahead and make this gen's Fire-type the badass.

Actually, Fire sure is shafted a lot in both the games and the anime compared to it's rival types - Water and Grass. There are few, if any Fire-types released every generation, and most Fire-types have good Special attack but rarely learn anything but Fire-type Special moves, thus making them some of the most worthless Pokemon when it comes to adaptability. Hopefully the Specia/Attack split will help them out.
 
I'd like to mention the two new evos main characters got (of Pokemon they had before Johto) were not revealed till the game came out.
 
I think it would be great if Ash caught more Pokemon in D/P, it would make the anime a little bit more like the games, and make allow the gym battles to have more variety. I hope he isn't opposed to using old Oaked pokemon this season also.
 
Considering Ash dumped his entire AG team and has a D/P team of 4 before the first Gym already, I don't think he'll use any older Pokemon.
 
Considering Ash dumped his entire AG team and has a D/P team of 4 before the first Gym already, I don't think he'll use any older Pokemon.

I'd like to see him in the League with his full set, though. He could actually put together theme teams of the same type now (Neatle, Sceptile, Bulbasaur or Noctowl, Swellow, Mukkuru), which would be a good theme for the Shinou leage - like a battle where only Grass-types are allowed . . .
 
I'm really hoping that the writers reserve the last spot (which may be the spot that Aipom occupies now) for Ash's Pokemon back home.

Ash's strategy of using the same Pokemon on his team time after time worked when he would either release them or only had Muk/Krabby/Tauros at Oak's, but he has so many Pokemon now, and if I were one of his Johto Pokemon, I'd be a little agitated being at Oak's lab constantly.

So what I propose is using that last spot to switch Pokemon between Oak's lab and his Shinou roster. If he's going to battle a grass gym leader, then please give Cyndaquil a little screentime; likewise, calling Totodile or Kingler for a match against a ground type leader wouldn't be such a bad call and I'd rather Ash called Bayleef for a match one of these days rather than Bulbasaur (he didn't even use Bayleef against Team Rocket when they returned to Pallet!).

I'm pretty sure we've had an adequate Snorlax fix, and I can't remember if Tauros or Muk were used in the Battle Frontier or not (I quit watching after the Battle Factory and came back during the Jindai saga).
 
If history repeats itself (and this is the Pokémon animé, it will), then Ash is going to have the following:

• The starting-area's flying Pokémon (Pidgeotto, Noctowl, Swellow).

• A fire-type, a water-type and a grass type.
1 - Charizard, Squirtle, Bulbasaur
2 - Cyndaquil, Totodile, Bayleef
3 - Torkoal, Corphish, Sceptile

•*An assortment of Pokémon that are overlooked and not quite as popular (Kingler, Heracross, Donphan, Muk, Glalie, Tauros, etc.).

But none of that really matters, because the moment Ash's 4th-generation become evolved and powerful, they'll get shoved into the background, and he'll use his old Pokémon to win the most important fights. *sighs*
 
Well, Ash's choice of Fire-type is pretty damn limited again. Just like it was between Numel and Torkoal. The developers really have it in for those Fire-types. He either gets Magmar's evolution, or the Fire/Steel type - whatever that is.
 
Fire/Steel was my Torkoal evo....or so I thought.

I hope it's a possessed candle...who knows, maybe the writers won't give him a FIre type.
 
The problem is Ash has so many redundant types now that a certain set of Pokemon will always be shafted. In this case, we all saw how his Johto team wasn't even used during Battle Frontier.

The only Pokemon seemingly special enough to return time after time are Bulbasaur/Squirtle/Charizard. Sadly, I can see Swellow/Corphish being forgotten about for his new D/P Pokemon, but Sceptile will probably gain "Snorlax's role" as the reserve powerhouse.

And that's the sad thing that happens as this show goes on and on. Ash has far too many Pokemon now than the writers know what to do with. That's why I'm hoping he DOESN'T get more than a team of 6 for Shinou, because he has far too many Pokemon rotting away at Oaks who do nothing for YEARS.
 
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