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With Salamence being promoted to Ubers, which will become more used in the OU tier?

Dragonite has superior defenses and movepool, but has a nasty x4 weakness to Ice.

Kingdra has superior speed thanks to Swift Swim and a resistance to Ice, but has a very shallow (emphasis on very) movepool.

I will personally use Dragonite over Kingdra because of its bulk and movepool, not to mention Roost gets rid of that Flying type.
 
I've never liked Dragonite because of appearance. Sure it's great in battle, but Kingdra is not that bad either, and it can do very well in a Rain Team.

Kingdra.
 
In my opinion Dragonite simply because of it's monster move-pool and incredible variety of sets, while all Kingdra can do is sweep with it's very small and predicable move-pool and sets. However in Rain Kingdra is not something to be fucked with.
 
I agree with that Rain comment. I get mys rear end kicked by Kingdra all the time in the URPG because of that. Kingdra in general is something not to screw with, but I take variety of attacks over pure Strength.
 
Dragonite, but just barely. Kingdra will be used almost as much thanks to Swift Swim. I personally enjoy The D-nite more.
 
Dragonite, hands down. Kingdra may be a beast in the rain, but out of it, or before it gets a chance to set up, it's almost pathetic. Plus, Dragonite has more versatility, being able to effectively run bulky or clerical sets as well as offensive ones.
 
I'd probably go with Dragonite because of that ridiculous movepool. Otherwise I'd give it to kingdra
 
Dragonite >
Flygon
Kingdra
All other dragons

just simply because, give Dragonite a scarf, it becomes fast and is almost as good of a sweeper as Salamence :bounce:
 
personally i hate dragonite except for the fact that it can learn superpower. and i enjoy playing a rain dance team to much so ill have to give ti to kingdra :)
 
Dragonite, because if its huge movepool and good offensive stats. Kingdra doesn't have much of a movepool (but it lets it hit most Pokemon neutrally), but it does really well in rain.
 
I guess it actually has to depend a little on the other pokes in your team. I would choose Kingdra if theres alot more pokes that could benefit from rain dance like thunder, water-type attack or abilities like hydration or other swift swimmers.
 
Dragonite is basically a bulkier Mence with ExtremeSpeed and Superpower, so I see Dragonite getting a lot more use than Kingdra.
 
Just because of this thread, I've decided to make a mono-dragon team with dragonite and kingdra in it :p
 
Dragonite. Is. A. Beast. Hands down. Kingdra blah blah blah Rain Dance synergy blah blah blah whatever. They're both great, and have completely different strategies usually, but every team could use a bulky cleric or a bulky Dragon Dancer, but not every team could make use of a Rain Dance sweep. (I know Kindgra can Dragon Dance... but it's just not as good =/).
 
Dragonite will replace Salamence in popularity. Flygon will be next most popular. Kingdra will always be the oddball (albeit badass). The larger movepool of the former two make them easier to use.
 
I would have to go with Kingdra. There are few reasons behind this. 1) I don't like Dragonite's design. 2) Dragonite can be easily crippled with moves like Ice Beam, while Kingdra can't, as it's only weakened by the rare Dragon-type attack. 3) Sniper. Try using Focus Energy with Sniper and have a Razor Claw/Fang on hand. That will land several painful critical hits on your poor target. 4) Rain Dance/Swift Swim will turn Kingdra into a tsunami-making machine.

Sure, Dragonite has an awesome movepool, but a single Ice Beam could turn it into a dragon-shaped ice sculpture, so I stand by Kingdra. Besides, I don't find Dragonite all that great. Sure, it's a pseudo-legendary and whatnot, but the right moves can cripple it in one shot. I mean, I beat all of Lance's Dragonites with my Lanturn's Ice Beam in a single shot, and she's not super powerful (she's barely scratching 50, and a bit on the slow side). Plus, Kingdra just looks cooler to me (and easier to raise). So, I stand by Kingdra.
 
Neither of them will come close to being a Salamence replacement but Dragonite is the next best thing. DDNite comes fairly close to DDMence. The bulk does come useful but the SP Atk and Fire Blast is missed and gets walled by the likes of Skarmory, Gliscor and Celebi. MixNite doesn't come close to MixMence's wall breaking capabilities and i actually rather MixDra as a replacement wall breaker due to better speed, and enough of a move pool.
 
It's been mentioned before, but I say it again--Neither will meet the high standards Mence has left. I prefer Kingdra myself. Running a Rain Dance team with Kingdra, then using Ice Beam simply destroys a Dragonite. As long as you aren't actually switching into a Dragonite as a Kingdra, you can take hits long enough to Ice Beam.
 
I personally LOVE Kingdra. It's got pretty average stats, but that's what makes it so great. And in the rain, it's a definite beast. Plus, I think Kingdra looks way cooler than Dragonite. Sure, Dragonite has a better movepool, but Kingdra's small Dragon and Water type attacks with STAB movepool is onlt resisted by Magnezone (I think). Anything Kingdra's attacks are neutral to still do lots of damage. Also, Dragonite does have better bulk, but Kingdra resists lots of types, and the only thing SE against it is Dragon.

So, I say Kingdra.
 
Kingdra due to better STAB, typing, and ease of setting up
 
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