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I was thinking about how the DSi doesn't have a GBA Slot, and how PKMN might want to pull away from GBA all together.

And then I thought of, if they'd do something like WaterBlue for the DSi exclusively. Or maybe something with a Remake of Yellow Version. It would be odd to make both of them as a pair though. I see it more likely that they would pick one, and make that.
The only ''issue'' that I see with this is version exclusive pokemon. Maybe they will make use of the downloadable feature to get some Pokemon that aren't in the Game though. That would solve the problem for there needing to be Paired+ Versions. I am not sure how the DSi works exactly so maybe I'm wrong.

Not sure what they'd do about Emerald and the like though.

Anyway, someone probably has mentioned this before in a thread, and or made a thread for it. Sorry if this is spam or something. Just wondering what some of you think.
 
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As far as I can tell, there aren't any DSi-exclusive games, but they are making ones that are enhanced by it. The original GS was playable on GB, but had better graphics on the GBC. The two GBC Zelda games had an extra shop open when plugged into a GBA. Similar things are probably going to happen with DSi games; nothing you need, but something cool nevertheless. It seems likely at this point that HGSS (so cool to be able to use that acronym!) will use this.
 
True. What I am asking about is opinions on the possibility of their being a remake of the Gen1 Series that would be exclusive to the DSi. Why? Because the DSi has not GBA slot, so it wouldn't be possible to get Gen1 Pokemon outside of the GTS or trading, not that that is a bad thing, but they seem to want to allow people to Buy before they Trade.

Also, you bring up a point that sparks an thought, making DS Remakes of Yellow Version and Emerald Version, that have ''upgrades'' as you said when played with the DSi. Such as my suggested downloadable pokemon and other things.
 
HG and SS are going to have Kanto (I think everyone's pretty much 99.9% sure on that), and all the Pokémon native to it. And making a third incarnation of Gen. 1 so soon after the second (or at all, really) would seem like money-grubbing to more than just the naysayers. No, there's no need for such a game, and it wouldn't make them much extra money at all, so it won't be happening.
 
So soon? When did anyone say anything about a date?
And true the HGSS versions have Kanto, but I didn't really think they'd have all of the Kanto Pokemon. Perhaps though. Even still, what would be of Hoenn?
 
If there are people out there who still haven't transfered their pokemon then they shouldn't replace their DS. It's been enough time that most people will have transfered their pokemon and be done with the GBA games. Nothing needs to be done until the 5th generation.
 
What of those people who don't get a Pokemon Game until GenV?

And you're right, yet. But I was asking how it sounded as something that they might do, or might not do.
 
Nothing really needs to be done ever. Gen V will be compatible with DPPtHGSS, even if it's not directly compatible with RSEFRLG, and thus we can just transfer forward stuff from Gen IV that we originally caught in Gen III to Gen V. You know. Like it should have been with Gen I and II to III and on, if it weren't for the damn incompatibility caused by the hardware upgrade.

Face it: there won't be any advancement of Pokémon stats. Sure, they might add some more crap like notch-earedness and so on, but that's nothing major, and doable easily without messing with the current system. The personality value, which determines almost everything about a Pokémon, is an unsigned 32-bit integer. They aren't gonna upgrade to a 64-bit one anytime soon, firstly because not even home computers can handle that (most truncate at 48 bits if they have a 64-bit CPU and no one notices). Even when taking into account the system of EVs and IVs they have, look: you can have an up to 94-point variance in HP between 0 IV, 0 EV and 31 IV, 252 EV, and in the other stats between a 116-point and 196-point difference (based on the base stat value being between its current minimum of 5 and maximum of 230) depending on the same. That's insane.

They can advance the battle style, for certain, but there's nothing they need to add to the games to make Gen III OR IV obsolete in their entirety. They will still be connectible for a looooooong time. Plus, people were PISSED last time, so they aren't gonna do that again.

In closing, no, they will not remake Kanto AGAIN for the DSi because if you REALLY want to you can break out your regular DS or even a GBA, and play FRLG. There ya go. Kanto.

Besides, by the time there's Gen V, the DSi will be obsolete.
 
Let's take everything you said, and lump it into that last part.

"In closing, no, they will not remake Kanto AGAIN for the DSi because if you REALLY want to you can break out your regular DS or even a GBA, and play FRLG. There ya go. Kanto."

And then let's take the very last thing you said.

"Besides, by the time there's Gen V, the DSi will be obsolete. "

Let's assume that you meant the DSi will be obsolete because, well, there would be a new handheld by that time, and honestly, I have no idea what else you could have meant. Given this, let's also assume that the new handheld will have a DS Cart Slot, because really, it would be odd for Gen IV not to be playable with Gen V, but I suppose it's possible. (In which case it is likely that they will remake it to keep the old versions to the new versions linked.)

Those aren't really assumptions, fyi.

So we have someone, with the new handheld, playing GenIV Games in a ''slot'' and Gen V Games. Where in the world does a GBA Carts come into play for Kanto and Hoenn? If you want to assume that everyone that has Pokemon has a system that was made preDSi, which is now apperantly obsolete, and that they are going to go from GBA to DS to New Handheld, and those who don't have these three Generations of Games will have to go and find/buy them if you want to play certain regions/have certain pokemon, then I suppose your right.
We could have just as easily assumed that everyone had a GameBoyPocket and bam. They can play Kanto whenever. But no, they remade Red and Blue/Green.
Because they assumed that those were long gone.

To me, it seems the the DS Cart gameplay is a system that will be kept for a long while, because of this, it just seems like they are going to try to move away from the GAMEBOY Games, and strictly work on DS Carts.

More over, it seems like they will continue to remake old games, until they stop creating new Gens, so that they are compatible with the new Titles. Why? Because Pikachu is always there. Because all the Gen1 Pokemon are running about. Pokemon is not like those other games, where the ''old versions'' just die. They carry on.
 
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Let's take everything you said, and lump it into that last part.

"In closing, no, they will not remake Kanto AGAIN for the DSi because if you REALLY want to you can break out your regular DS or even a GBA, and play FRLG. There ya go. Kanto."

And then let's take the very last thing you said.

"Besides, by the time there's Gen V, the DSi will be obsolete. "

Let's assume that you meant the DSi will be obsolete because, well, there would be a new handheld by that time, and honestly, I have no idea what else you could have meant. Given this, let's also assume that the new handheld will have a DS Cart Slot, because really, it would be odd for Gen IV not to be playable with Gen V, but I suppose it's possible. (In which case it is likely that they will remake it to keep the old versions to the new versions linked.)

Those aren't really assumptions, fyi.

So we have someone, with the new handheld, playing GenIV Games in a ''slot'' and Gen V Games. Where in the world does a GBA Carts come into play for Kanto and Hoenn? If you want to assume that everyone that has Pokemon has a system that was made preDSi, which is now apperantly obsolete, and that they are going to go from GBA to DS to New Handheld, and those who don't have these three Generations of Games will have to go and find/buy them if you want to play certain regions/have certain pokemon, then I suppose your right.
We could have just as easily assumed that everyone had a GameBoyPocket and bam. They can play Kanto whenever. But no, they remade Red and Blue/Green.
Because they assumed that those were long gone.

To me, it seems the the DS Cart gameplay is a system that will be kept for a long while, because of this, it just seems like they are going to try to move away from the GAMEBOY Games, and strictly work on DS Carts.

More over, it seems like they will continue to remake old games, until they stop creating new Gens, so that they are compatible with the new Titles. Why? Because Pikachu is always there. Because all the Gen1 Pokemon are running about. Pokemon is not like those other games, where the ''old versions'' just die. They carry on.
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true dat lol
 
Hmm. Now you've got me thinking. Really, how hard would it be to put the gen III games through some minor upgrades and release them as DSiWare (a la virtual console)? Of course, I have no idea what the answer to that is. It seems most WiiWare/DSiWare games are far simpler than the ones released on hard media. But hey, you never know.
 
Besides, by the time there's Gen V, the DSi will be obsolete.
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I doubt it.
I'm pretty sure that Gen V will be released on DS/DS Lite/DSi Family.

Looking at history...Nintendo DS was released on December 2, 2004, 2 years after that Gen IV has been released. If you are saying that Gen V will be on the next hand held console safe to say that it will be on 2012. thinking that DSi just only been released and the closest date that a new hand held console will be release is on 2010. So 2012 for Gen V? i think its too long, it will affect the TCG, Anime, Spinoff and etc...

Also take note that HGSS has been announced, GAMEFREAK has been creating a next new Pokemon Main game since the released of Pokemon Platinum aside from the Gen 2 Remake and they will not sit around and wait for the next hand held and then create a new main series of game. If they going to release the Gen V new hand held should been released last year or early this year...Just check the history on how Nintendo Hand Held has been released.

Logically that how things work unless Nintendo/Gamefreak/Pokemon Company is finishing the creation of new gen and just want revolve on the 4 existing generation.
 
TTEchidna said:
Nothing really needs to be done ever. Gen V will be compatible with DPPtHGSS, even if it's not directly compatible with RSEFRLG, and thus we can just transfer forward stuff from Gen IV that we originally caught in Gen III to Gen V.
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I wouldn't be so sure. Gen. II and Gen. III were completely incompatible, and while that one was due to hardware incompatibility, I don't see how Game Freak deciding to completely start over again with the next generation is out of the question, especially if they use the option of taking things in a Gen. II direction by putting two regions in one game again for a wide range of possible Pokémon available in the wild. And even if there's hardware compatibility, the number of special features and items and everything else that will be present between the main Gen. IV games and the remakes potentially pose a real software compatibility issue. At least a Pal Park scenario is likely, but anything beyond that is subject to a lot of factors.
 
If there are any exclusive Pokemon DSi games I highly doubt they'll be core games like Diamond, Pearl, Heart Gold. Most likely it'll be some Pokemon game that heavily utilizes the camera or the storage capabilities of the DSi. So maybe a Pokemon ranch like game (which won't work unless you have an SD card; which would come with the game anyway) but with DS graphics rather than Wii Ware Graphics.
 
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Hmm. Now you've got me thinking. Really, how hard would it be to put the gen III games through some minor upgrades and release them as DSiWare (a la virtual console)? Of course, I have no idea what the answer to that is. It seems most WiiWare/DSiWare games are far simpler than the ones released on hard media. But hey, you never know.
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This is true. Maybe if you ''save the game'' on a ''memory chip''? Kinda like a memory card for the Wii.
 
There are size issues, though. Currently, the rumor is that Nintendo requires Wii Ware developers to keep any games they make for the service at 40MB or lower. If they do that, then it's also likely that they're doing the same thing for DSi Ware as well.

According to Wikipedia, Pokemon FireRed was 128 MB.

So no, I don't think anyone will be making a full-on Pokemon RPG for DSi Ware.
 
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There are size issues, though. Currently, the rumor is that Nintendo requires Wii Ware developers to keep any games they make for the service at 40MB or lower. If they do that, then it's also likely that they're doing the same thing for DSi Ware as well.

According to Wikipedia, Pokemon FireRed was 128 MB.

So no, I don't think anyone will be making a full-on Pokemon RPG for DSi Ware.
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And there is no way to Save the Game File onto something like for WiiWare?
 
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And there is no way to Save the Game File onto something like for WiiWare?
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Apparently, it's not a matter of storage, it's a matter of transmission. The games have to be less than 40 MB to be uploaded and downloaded.

But it seems like N64 games, like Star Fox or Ocarina of Time, would be much larger than that, yet they offer those through VC. Are the rules different for Virtual Console and WiiWare, or are N64 games just a lot smaller than I think?
 
Rules are probably different.

And if you look at what's been released on the DSi so far...it's all been little puzzle games with gimped features (I mean, no multiplayer in Dr. Mario? What?). Expecting a full-on RPG for the service based on what we have right now is downright crazy.
 
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