EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY! (New Clubs rule)

[$aturn¥oshi]

Yes, we all love fan art, but not so much when it's taking away from the conversation. So, my good friend, Roronoa Zorua has let me utilize her rules on posting fan art from the Shipping forum.

Also, if you're going to participate in a Club, you must be active in the conversation at hand.

UPDATED: October 27, 2010

Rules on Art Posting​

There won’t be many, but it’s time to step up this.

It worries me every time any piece is posted, and despite how I look when I have done it myself, this is always in the back of my mind:

Online Fanarts Protection

No fanfic goes without being credited naturally, depending on where it’s linked. The same courtesy should be given to fanartists.

These following rules not only apply to the possibly to-be-resurrected Picture Thread, but also all the general discussion threads as well.



Guideline to Posting Artwork: step by step


Rule Cero:
If you are an art scavenger, who saves art without remembering where you got it from, this is more for you. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO POST ANY ART WITHOUT AN ARTIST. BIG rule. No artist, no website to link to, DO NOT DARE. For more detailed explanations, please read further on how to properly post artwork.


Rule One (NEW):

Spoiler

Any artwork posted must be uploaded to either an image-hosting site (e.g. Photobucket, ImageShack) or your on-site album, located here and on the top forum bar under the drop-down menu of “Social Links.”

Meaning if the image you wish to post has something like deviantart.com or pixiv.com in the URL, you are hotlinking. This is bad.

Hotlinking isn’t allowed for a reason. In some cases, the image you are trying to post won’t for other people, because that image isn’t in their cache, unlike you, who viewed it before posting it. And sometimes, images are coded to break, or show generic “You are hotlinking” message images to humiliate you.

Rule Two:

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Every image must be accompanied by a link that can be clicked. If multiple images (meaning: more than one) come from the same artist, all you need is one link for all the images by the same person.

If the artist’s name is on the piece, that’s not enough. Need a link.

If you type out the artist’s name, that’s not enough. Need a link.

You cannot click on URLs in images. I’ve tried. It doesn’t work; PASTE IT, pls.

Rule Three:

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There is NO excuse for posting and not linking. You are also warrant an infraction (without a warning, because if you sound like this, you are aware you’re breaking the rules) if you try to cover your butt with:
“It’s not mine. [artwork]”
“It’s from DevArt. [artwork]”
“I don’t know who drew it, but it belongs to them. [artwork].”
“I found it on Photobucket account xxx; have a link. [artwork]”

No. Don’t play that game. You push me, you get warnings and points on your record. This is not a suitable safety net. This pisses me off.

Rule Four:
All images wider than 500px must be contained under a spoiler tag. Don’t know how to make one?

[noparse]

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Stuff inside under a clickable button.

[/noparse]

Easy as pie.



Rule Five (NEW):

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Do not directly connect the link to the image. This is more for your own benefit than anything else (linking to words is more identifiable as crediting; we have missed linked images in the past). Follow the example:

Unspoilered because it’s tiny~

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This is how we roll~

From here!

http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=1132359

Rule Six (clarified July 24, 2010):
Are YOU the artist? If the art is your own, it's common sense to clearly label it as your own.

However, claim any piece of art as your own, when it is not? You can be potentially banned from the Shippers section. Art theft is akin to plagiarism, and plagiarism can get you expelled from school, fired from work, and so on. The same consequences exist for here.




THE ONE EXCEPTION.

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Which is a privilege and not a right. By this, I mean if it happens too much, I will revoke this right. The point is to promote artists and their work, not a colorful gallery of stuff you didn’t even draw.

Say you have a lot of artwork you want to share. But being a scavenger, you probably don’t remember where you got it from. This is what you’re allowed to do.

Okay, soooo, I like Sephiroth! A lot! Maybe too much…orz

http://s790.photobucket.com/albums/yy185/Final_Light/Sefirosu/

Um, don’t view it unless there’s a wall behind you. Some images might not be school or family safe. Nothing porny (like Photobucket allows those, phfft), but better safe than sorry!

From this account is a whole slew of artwork that’s technically uncredited to an artist (I will tell you now, however, they all come from Pixiv, and the numbers in the .jpg URL are actually the corresponding ID numbers, unique to each submission made. C/P is all you need to find the artist), but it’s off-site. We’re not responsible for it, anymore.

Remember: this is a privilege that can be taken away.

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What you CANNOT do with this Exception!

Say you’re browsing the Sefirosu sub folder up there, and you see a piece that you really, really like.

You cannot post it as a link.

OMG, they’re all so pretty! I especially live this one: http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy185/Final_Light/Sefirosu/13925896_m.png

That’s the same as posting the image in-site without credit: it will get you infracted. Because it’s a direct link to a place without accessible artist information.

Reasonings! Why this is like this!

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Why do we need to post links?

-To direct others not only to a place where more of said artist’s work can be found, but if you shuffle your images around in your account and suddenly, the art you posted months ago are all broken images. With a link, at least then, the person late to the party has a second chance of finding what they were referring to. Voila, you’re still providing for your fellow shipper!

Why can’t I hotlink?

-YOU KNOW HOW YOU’RE SOCIALLY TOLD NOT TO POST IN ALL CAPS BECAUSE IT’S CONSIDERED SHOUTING AND RUDE? NEVER MIND IT LOOKS DUMB. IT’S NETIQUETTE. DON’T FUCK UP OTHERS’ BANDWIDTH. THAT IS STUFF WEBMASTERS HAVE TO PAY FOR, WITH REAL CASH. HAVE SOME DAMN MANNERS. DON’T HOTLINK, AND DON’T TYPE IN ALL CAPS.

DEVART ALSO TECHNICALLY DOESN'T ALLOW IT, DESPITE THEM NOT PUTTING UP A METHOD OF PREVENTING IT. JUST SEARCH THE PARAMETERS: DEVIANTART HOTLINKING.

See how annoying that is? Just don't do it.

Why do I have to clarify my own artwork? It's mine.

-I don't know that. For all I know, it's someone else's uncredited work. Why should you be punished for something you shouldn't be? It's work undoing infractions, man.

Why can I post directly to an image-hosting account, but not to any of the images on it without an artist link?

-Because once you’ve left the forums to view that art, we aren’t liable to the Online Fanarts Protection clause of professional respect. To give credit it to show some signs of responsibility in recognizing that all artwork is drawn by a person just like you. And they deserve credit for their hard work.

If you cannot provide such a service, at least leaving the site to view the uncredited images makes US safe from scrutiny, and obviously someone else’s fault.

Things you can link to when posting artwork!

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Personal websites: only to the main/front page. Nowhere else.
http://www.geocities.jp/naitodenaito/

Image-hosting account: Only when you have confirmed it is an artist’s personal gallery, and not simply a collection of Teppo artwork.
http://s49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/January_Frost/

Art sites: to the page where the art is found, or the artist’s user page directly
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=11603452
http://culpeo-fox.deviantart.com/
http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/member.php?u=22098 (Yes, linking to a user profile on a forum counts. But you MUST BE CERTAIN they are the original artist, and not simply a reposter like you are.)

EXAMPLE POSTS:
Legal examples (models you yourself may follow):
http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showpost.php?p=1477476&postcount=46
http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showpost.php?p=1481801&postcount=51
http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showpost.php?p=2037348&postcount=173
http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showpost.php?p=2074517&postcount=174
http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showpost.php?p=1721240&postcount=146
http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showpost.php?p=1768573&postcount=149




I don’t care if it’s annoying; some of our members do it anyway, even if no one forced them. But EVERY TIME you post a piece...CREDIT it.

This is no joke, and this time around, I will be enforcing the matter of crediting. And to the people who care about these things, I implore you to make sure your fellow members do so. And if they don’t, do tell me. If I can’t trust you, I won’t trust you.




Addendum (March 23, 2010): Screencaps are not "art". Official manga images are not "art". Those are free to be posted without taking on credit.

However, image manipulations are. If the image you are posting isn't original, it's considered a piece of artwork.



Clarifying (April 20, 2010): This rule covers ALL threads within the Shipping section and is not limited to the Shipping Picture Thread. If you post a picture in ANY thread, you must give it the proper credit.

 

[Dawn~Berlitz]

I absolutely agree with these rules they are fair

 

[DracoMan]

*cough*kissass*cough*

Just kidding.

 

[Queen Cynthia]

What if I have had a picture on my computer for ages and can't figure out where I got it from any more?

 

[$aturn¥oshi]

You can upload it to a photo sharing site and post the link in the group, but not the actual picture.

 

[Queen Cynthia]

And what difference will this make?

If you want us to post only the link, fine, but quite frankly, I don't get how that would make any difference as by clicking on the link, people will be able to see the picture anyways.

 

[DarkDreams]

It's to get rid of the over load of picture SPAM. If you have nothing to contribute but pictures, then I guess it's not really a discussion

 

[$aturn¥oshi]

And what difference will this make?

If you want us to post only the link, fine, but quite frankly, I don't get how that would make any difference as by clicking on the link, people will be able to see the picture anyways.

It's not about not seeing the picture, it's about hosting someone else's work on the site and not paying the artist the proper respect by crediting them for their work.

 

[crossovershipper]

can i post screencaps ot the social groups?

 

[$aturn¥oshi]

can i post screencaps ot the social groups?

Yes.

 

[crossovershipper]

Yes.

yay, because i was gonna submit tons of screencaps to different groups

 

[$aturn¥oshi]

First post updated to coincide the Shipping forum's update.

 

[yourlilemogirl]

ok...some of this went over my head simply because it was tl;dr (more like tl;dr most of it). so i'm just gunna avoid posting images :S

Question though, how would this affect image-necessary threads, like the Random Images thread?

 

[Ghost]

ok...some of this went over my head simply because it was tl;dr (more like tl;dr most of it). so i'm just gunna avoid posting images :S

Question though, how would this affect image-necessary threads, like the Random Images thread?

I believe that it only applies to this forum.

 

[$aturn¥oshi]

Yes, these rules only applies to the clubs threads here. (And the shipping threads they originate from.)