enigma stone event- destroys thought timeline

[Akimbo]

the other day on SS i just got the Enigma Stone, event and when you catch/ defeat latias/ latios steven stone comes up to you and talks about how he has been away from the hoenn pokemon league for too long, therefore still making him champion which means that emerald would have to be after HG/SS, so maybe our thoughts of the timeline are wrong and they just go in order of when the originals were made
R,B,G/FR,LG -> G,S,C/HG,SS -> R,S,E -> D,P,Pt

i just wanted to know what everyone thinks now that we know emerald has to be after HG/SS

 

[Ferbgor]

I think that Steven left Wallace in chage so that he can become a roaming trainer. So now he's thinking about going back to Hoenn and taking back his position from Wallace.

 

[Pokémon Master Red]

the other day on SS i just got the Enigma Stone, event and when you catch/ defeat latias/ latios steven stone comes up to you and talks about how he has been away from the hoenn pokemon league for too long, therefore still making him champion which means that emerald would have to be after HG/SS, so maybe our thoughts of the timeline are wrong and they just go in order of when the originals were made
R,B,G/FR,LG -> G,S,C/HG,SS -> R,S,E -> D,P,Pt

i just wanted to know what everyone thinks now that we know emerald has to be after HG/SS

Well, if that's true, I think I have my timeline IF I counted remakes:
FRLG
RSE
DPPt (because Rusty trade in HGSS)
HGSS

 

[immewnity]

IIRC, the timeline is as follows:

RGBY and RSE take place at the same time, with the possibility of Emerald taking place shortly after RS.

GSC and DPPt take place three years later, with the possibility of Crystal taking place shortly after GS, and Platinum possibly shortly after DP.

HGSS takes place three years after FRLG, and it is assumed that FRLG=RGBY and HGSS=GSC in time, so... yeah. Quite confusing.

 

[Envoy]

IIRC, the timeline is as follows:

RGBY and RSE take place at the same time, with the possibility of Emerald taking place shortly after RS.

GSC and DPPt take place three years later, with the possibility of Crystal taking place shortly after GS, and Platinum possibly shortly after DP.

HGSS takes place three years after FRLG, and it is assumed that FRLG=RGBY and HGSS=GSC in time, so... yeah. Quite confusing.

Blue, Yellow, Crystal, Emerald and Platinum aren't sequels, they're expanded re-releases. Since they have the deeper and more complex stories, it can be assumed that they take the place of the other versions as the "canon" ones.

So....

Yellow (or FrLg) -> Emerald -> Crystal (or HgSs) -> Platinum

 

[immewnity]

Blue, Yellow, Crystal, Emerald and Platinum aren't sequels, they're expanded re-releases. Since they have the deeper and more complex stories, it can be assumed that they take the place of the other versions as the "canon" ones.

So....

Yellow (or FrLg) -> Emerald -> Crystal (or HgSs) -> Platinum

Though there are different places; Battle Tower and Battle Frontier. Same could be said for HGSS, too, then.

 

[VeggiePopper]

the other day on SS i just got the Enigma Stone, event and when you catch/ defeat latias/ latios steven stone comes up to you and talks about how he has been away from the hoenn pokemon league for too long, therefore still making him champion which means that emerald would have to be after HG/SS, so maybe our thoughts of the timeline are wrong and they just go in order of when the originals were made
R,B,G/FR,LG -> G,S,C/HG,SS -> R,S,E -> D,P,Pt

i just wanted to know what everyone thinks now that we know emerald has to be after HG/SS

The only thing it proves is that HGSS take place in a different time that RSE. Maybe before, maybe after. Steven says he's been absent from the Hoenn League. This may be before Brendan/May challenged him, or after, so it says nothing.

 

[Envoy]

Blue, Yellow, Crystal, Emerald and Platinum aren't sequels, they're expanded re-releases. Since they have the deeper and more complex stories, it can be assumed that they take the place of the other versions as the "canon" ones.

So....

Yellow (or FrLg) -> Emerald -> Crystal (or HgSs) -> Platinum

Just thought I'd point this out again.

 

[Vhazhiphor]

Here's a thought.

Every single Game takes place in an alternate world.

Though elements may be similar throughout them all, each playthrough of the game is essentially an alternate timeline of the events within said game. Mewtwo is unique, and I doubt we can all have one or several of him. How we all experience roughly the same events. It's not one world; it's many, many parallel dimensions. Trading between cartridges is essentially planeswalking. And in at least one case, time traveling.

A little more serious, though, it just means he hasn't been there. We know he's been traveling since Emerald, so it doesn't really put anything out of order. Even if Wallace wasn't placed as a "save my spot for me, will you?" Champion, he can easily come back and obliterate the entire E4+Wally so I doubt that's a problem either.

 

[Dynamo]

Actually, I think Platinum takes place later than Diamond and Pearl. I thought I read on Pokemon.com that it was like 2-3 years later, which is why Sinnoh was colder and you wore the scarf. In Emerald, we also know that Juan took the place of Wallace, who is mentioned as he had the gym before-hand, which leads me to believe that Emerald is later on. So If I had to guess...
RBGY/FRLG/RS
GS/HGSS
Crystal?/Emerald
DP
Pt
BW

I may be wrong, but that seems about right.

 

[Rellik]

OH LOOK ANOTHER TIMELINE THREAD HOW FUN 'CAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE OVER 9000 OF THESE ALREADY!![/SARCASM]

>_>

Anyways, until this is locked/merged, I might as well throw my two cents in.

First of all, like Envoy pointed out, Yellow, Crystal, Emerald, and Platinum are not sequels. They're expanded remakes that replace the original Paired Versions in the canon. Likewise, the same applies to FireRed/LeafGreen and HeartGold/SoulSilver.

Secondly, the whole topic of a canonical timeline is completely fucked. The only time the passage of time has ever been mentioned in the main series is the three year gap between GenI and GenII and their remakes. That's it. Everything else is based solely on fandom observations and the absence of the Time Capsule from GenIII onward.

Here's the general consensus on the subject: FR/LG replace all of GenI in the canon. FR/LG are able to trade with Emerald without the use of the Time Capsule. Therefor, FR/LG and Emerald both happen at roughly the same point in time. Many would argue that the events in Hoenn happened after the main storyline of FR/LG, due to the fact that while R/S/E can trade with FR/LG at any time, FR/LG can only connect with the Hoenn games after obtaining both the Ruby and the Sapphire in the Sevii Islands, which can only be found after you complete the games' main storyline. If I remember correctly, dialogue within FR/LG states that ti was impossible for trades to be conducted between Kanto and Hoenn before that point in time. (Now, the whole thing goes to shit when you consider the fact that FR/LG can connect with Emerald at any point at all, regardless of weather or not you've recovered the Ruby and Sapphire, but I personally like to assume that that's due more to a programming oversight on GF's part than anything else.)

Now, again, HG/SS replace the original GenII in the gameverse. Since HG/SS can trade with Platinum without any Deus ex Machina-style time machines, it's again assumed that HG/SS and Platinum happen at around the same time. Now, some claim that the Sinnoh storyline starts somewhere around the time that Ethan/Lyra battled the Red Gyarados in Lake of Rage based on the news report at the start of D/P, but since that report is absent in Platinum, which is the canon version, and because HG/SS can trade with any of the Sinnoh games from the very start, we have to assume that it's all happening concurrently.

Now, since we know for a fact that there's a three year gap between FR/LG and HG/SS, and that Emerald and Platinum take place around the same time as FR/LG and HG/SS respectively, we can infer that there's also a three year gap between Emerald and Platinum.

TL;DR - The timeline is shit, but if it existed, it'd be FRLG->Emerald->[THREE YEAR GAP]->HGSS/Platinum

 

[Falconwing]

Steven is just an overpaid substitute Champ because he's... camp or something. Steven has always been the true champ. That's, at least, how I see it.