EV Training Help.

[Nando]

Okay, I've finally decided to begin taking EV training seriously. However, I don't really understand the details of it, so I need it explained to me in simple terms.

Also, while I'm here, I need good EV spreads for Dusknoir, Gastrodon, Lickilicky, Skuntank and Tangrowth.

 

[Mukubird]

In simple terms, EV training is simply fainting a specific number of specific Pokémon to get stat boosts on stats a Pokémon needs. Each Pokémon can get up to 510 EVs total, with a maximum of 255 on a single stat. 4 EVs equals to 1 extra point on that stat, meaning one stat can get up to an additional 63 extra points, and 127 extra points in total.

Each Pokémon in the game also give out specific EVs in one or more stats every time they are defeated, usually reflecting on its highest base stat. Staraptor, for example has 120 base Attack, resulting in 3 EVs in Attack being given to participating Pokémon. You can check some sites for what EVs a Pokémon give when fainted.

There are some factors that also help with EV training:

Drugs: These items, acquired at Veilstone Department Store or the Battle Park, add 10 EVs in a stat, with up to 100 EVs in total per stat. These items are best used before fainting Pokémon as once the EVs in one stat reaches 100, they won't have any effect.

EV Reducing Berries: These berries help with taking unwanted EVs off any Pokémon (ie: Pokémon you used in-game). These take off 10 Evs off a stat IF the stat has 100 or less EVs in it. If it has more, if automatically sets it to 100, meaning you'll only need a maximum of 11 to clear one stat of EVs.

Pokérus: This handy condition, doubles the EV gain of a Pokémon, and is always applied last (after Macho Brace and Power items). This can be spread to the other members in your party and goes away after a while; the Pokémon still gains the advantage of the disease, it just cannot spread it any more. Fortunately, putting the box halts the process, meaning you can preserve the virus for future uses.

Macho Brace: This hold item, gained by showing all three forms of Burmy to the kid in Pastoria, temporarily halves Speed, but acts very much like Pokérus. It can also stack with Pokérus, quadrupling the EV gain in one battle.

Power items: The new items are gotten in the Battle Park and and 4 EVs to their specific stat regardless of the EVs given by the actual Pokémon, with the cost of temporarily halving the Pokémon's Speed. Note that it does not negate the EVs originally given by the Pokémon. (ie: Fainting a Bidoof with a Pokémon holding a Power Weight yields 5 EVs in HP, while fainting a Magikarp with the same Pokémon gives you 4 EVs in HP and 1 EV in Attack, the Magikarp's original EV yield).

Hope that helped you understand EV training a little better. You can also check some FAQs at GameFAQs for more information.

I'm too lazy to provide you with movesets, so just check Smogon or some other moveset site. =P

 

[reservoir_doggy]

I just started too. I decided to EV train a toxicroak. MY GOD. It took forever and let me tell you, when you get that effort ribbon it's like someone giving you a real damn trophy. Now I only need to EV train the other level one members of my new team. At least breeding is done lol.

 

[zatxn]

When ev training, always try to level your pokemon up at the daycare center to the high twenties to level 30 [ a little more is always welcome]. This helps as you can get in more ev's as you level up. It's really worth it when you see the +20's in your stat everytime you level up. =D

 

[Electrocast]

True.

That, and while I level mine up in the daycare I get a bunch of money for the vitamins for the stats I EV them in.

Since I have PKRS, it's a bit easier, I've EV trained in about an hour.

 

[Pyfe]

Leveling prior to EV training, in my opinion, is a waste of time and money. Go to a pokemon collector with the EV you are looking for, bring the pokemon you need trained and an in-game (high level, high PP) pokemon. Attach lucky coin (or whatever that money-doubling item is called) on the in-game, and make him second. When the battle begins, switch to this powerhouse. Use the match caller to battle the guy again. I used this method on Rich Boy Trey to attack train my cubone, and became quite rich in the process!

Of course, if you don't care about getting money, this same concept of power leveling can be applied to any wild pokemon route. My point is that it doesn't make a difference if you start at level 1 or level 40, unless "bigger numbers per level" make you joygasm.

Also. This is very helpful to know: assuming you have pokerus and macho brace, it takes 64 1 EP pokemon (zubat) to max out a stat, 32 2 EP pokemon (golbat), or 21 3 EP pokemon (crobat). I prefer going for the ones that grant two EP (effort points).

 

[Skantid]

Power items + pokérus has a higher efficiency.
Needing 252 EVs to max a stat:
1 EV pokémon needs to be fainted 25.2 times (25 with item and 1 without).
2 EV pokémon needs to be fainted 21 times.
3 EV pokémon needs to be fainted 18 times.

This way, maxing Speed with Zubat or Magikarp takes less than 5 minutes.

P.S.: There's no need to levelup before EV training, people. Most of my competitive pokémon are fully EVed before Lvl.15 and they're not different from my friend's leveled-up-to-100-then-berried-down-and-reeducated pokés. The only difference is that I don't need a billion berries.

 

[Nando]

Okay, one more thing I wanna know. I want to get the process straight.

Taking a level 1 Pokémon newly hatched, you first give vitamins for appropriate stats, then get Pokérus and the appropriate Power item, then EV train by defeating the appropriate Pokémon over and over?

 

[Mukubird]

Yes, and you can also level them up a little via Day Care/Rare Candy if you feel they can't take on the Pokémon you're EV training on.

 

[zatxn]

Yea, that's pretty much it. Here's an awesome guide that tells you where trainers with one Ev type are. It also tells you some pretty sweet locations to find the poke you need to battle to gain the evs.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/ds/file/925601/48969

 

[Crankyman]

I recommend not using the vitamins unless you love the Battle Tower. It's thriftier to just defeat other Pokes.

 

[Mukubird]

I recommend not using the vitamins unless you love the Battle Tower. It's thriftier to just defeat other Pokes.

Frankly, you should be able to get a crapload of money end-game, where you can get 24000 PokéDollars from battling the old woman or man outside of the Pokémon mansion while holding an Amulet Coin/Luck Incense.