EV training necessary or not?

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Not to sound like a useless noob but I have a bit of a question, I would like to battle people online and all, but I don't have the time (or patience) to EV train, would I stand a chance on wi-fi without ev training or should I give up? just wondering. thank you in advance.
 
With a fantastic sense of prediction and incredible tactics behind you, yes. But it will be considerably harder to get anywhere, seeing as the OU Metagame now is ver yspeed base, with even one stat point making all the difference sometimes.

So, really, yea, it's important.
 
If you really want to win, EV training is needed like we need air to breathe . You can always push your luck and hope for the best...but its never a guaranteed chance.
 
EV training is definitely necessary if you want to battle seriously. But even if you don't have the patience for it, you shouldn't just give up! Try to find other people who aren't serious competitors to battle for fun. Or, if you have PBR, you can just let it find random battles. Those tend not to have EV trained Pokemon.
 
To me, EV Training is like Snaking in Mario Kart or Wave-Dashing in Smash Bros. A little something extra meant to make single Pokemon very more, but exploited by hardcore gamers with too much time on their hands.
 
To me, EV Training is like Snaking in Mario Kart or Wave-Dashing in Smash Bros. A little something extra meant to make single Pokemon very more, but exploited by hardcore gamers with too much time on their hands.

I concur.

Not a big EVer myself.
 
Doesn't really take that long if you have Pokérus and an EV-enhancing item...
 
I really hope they get rid of it in the next generation so I can actually have fun battling against people again.
 
While EV training is tiresome (I myself just ev trained a Lickylicky for the first time), you should easily be able to find people who aren't in to the EV training scene to battle. However, EV training is not nearly as tiresome as IV breeding, and I'm not even going to touch that one.
 
To me, EV Training is like Snaking in Mario Kart or Wave-Dashing in Smash Bros. A little something extra meant to make single Pokemon very more, but exploited by hardcore gamers with too much time on their hands.

Its not that long to fully EV-train a Pokemon. I've even found a way to EV train multiple Pokemon with similar spreads.

If this was said about IV breeding, then we have a whole different matter.

Dogasu said:
I really hope they get rid of it in the next generation so I can actually have fun battling against people again.

Simple solution, just battle people who don't EV-Train.

I don't see why such an important factor on the strategical side of Pokemon Battling should be taken out merely because a couple people don't like it.

Oh so simple guide
 
Because its Level Grinding: Super Special Mode.
And it brings more realism to the concept of training Pokemon. Rather than mindlessly battling the elite 4 over and over to get yourselves to level 100, you actually try to train in specific stats.

Its kind of like how athletes train different muscle groups for different purposes. I do however wish that in the 5th generation that they make EV training atleast affect the appearance of the Pokemon who EV Trains. After all, a defensive Breloom should look more bulky, while a speedy one more slender.

And really, atleast it gives us something to do after that amazing plot of theirs is over. Even the Battle Tower has EV trained Pokemon trained in specific stats, so why should you reside yourself not to do it when the NPCs clearly do it aswell?
 
I thinks its a pretty cool thing, it's just not for me. Maybe I will use PBR more. thank you for the answers
 
Trying PBR to avoid "overpowered" Pokemon is kind of oxymoronic if you are doing random wifi battles considering people just use ubers.
 
It's boring. It's dull.

Games are meant to be fun, not done so you can be the very best by exploiting whatever it is that you are exploiting.

Sure, I will do it a bit, but once it starts being boring, I'll just stop.
 
I don't see why such an important factor on the strategical side of Pokemon Battling should be taken out merely because a couple people don't like it.

Question: Do anyone actually like it, or do they just accept that since it's there, they need to do it because otherwise their monsters will be weaker than everyone else's, since everyone else will EV train?
 
Its not that long to fully EV-train a Pokemon. I've even found a way to EV train multiple Pokemon with similar spreads.

So, according to you, it does not take long to encounter a Bidoof or something else 225 times? (or less, depending on if you have EV enhancing items or are training with pokes that have a higher EV gain).

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You have way to much time on your hands. It takes me days to EV train, items or no items. Not all people play for hours, you know.
 
I used to EV-train lots before, but I've given up. I guess the major reason I even did EV-train was at first to be "overpowered" against local opponents. Later, after it "spread" throughout, it became tiring to try to keep a whole Team of Pokémon with proper spreads. It just wasn't worth it. :\

Now that I barely have time to *play*, I decide to have more of actual fun with the story and other in-game stuff. After all, that's the reason most of us (if not all) had first picked up the game in itself.
 
So, according to you, it does not take long to encounter a Bidoof or something else 225 times? (or less, depending on if you have EV enhancing items or are training with pokes that have a higher EV gain).

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You have way to much time on your hands. It takes me days to EV train, items or no items. Not all people play for hours, you know.

Days? Sheesh, what do you do, play in one-minute bursts? I can usually finish maxing out a Pokémon's EVs in a particular stat on one L trip between Lincoln Park and the Loop.

I do, of course, have the advantage of the Pokérus and Macho Brace. Plus there's the EV vitamins, which jump it to 100, so all in all, the maximum amount of Pokémon I need to beat is usually no more than 35.
 
Days? Sheesh, what do you do, play in one-minute bursts? I can usually finish maxing out a Pokémon's EVs in a particular stat on one L trip between Lincoln Park and the Loop.

I do, of course, have the advantage of the Pokérus and Macho Brace. Plus there's the EV vitamins, which jump it to 100, so all in all, the maximum amount of Pokémon I need to beat is usually no more than 35.

Answered yourself there.

I would like to see numerous battles in which Non-EV trained Pokémon beat EV trained Pokémon. Just so all that EV training was futile. :)
 
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