"Extinct" Bird Seen, Eaten

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A rare quail from the Philippines was photographed for the first time before being sold as food at a poultry market, experts say.

Found only on the island of Luzon, Worcester's buttonquail was known solely through drawings based on dated museum specimens collected several decades ago.

Scientists had suspected the species—listed as "data deficient" on the International Union for Conservation of Nature's 2008 Red List—was extinct.

A TV crew documented the live bird in the market (above) before it was sold in January, according to the Agence France-Press news agency.

Michael Lu, president of the Wild Bird Club of the Philippines, told AFP the bird's demise should inspire a "local consciousness" about the region's threatened wildlife.

"What if this was the last of its species?" Lu said.

However, the buttonquail is from a "notoriously cryptic and unobtrusive family of birds," according to the nonprofit Birdlife International, so the species may survive undetected in other regions.
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wow... it's gone
Who know, since it hasn't really been proven, it might not be the last of it's species.

eh.... that sucks
 
So if the crew documented the bird, why didn't THEY buy it? Unless it was like a "Oh, look what's for sale today" sort of thing and it was only recognized later...
 
It's surmised that they may be all gone. This may or may not have been the last one. Perhaps the vendor has his own stock, or other people have private stocks as well. Maybe he caught it in the wild, I don't know. People raise all sorts of birds there in their own back yards (Chicken the most predominant) and I don't think anyone's keeping records on who raises what. (At least in the more removed regions)

Knowing the state of the region, I doubt any Filipino Conservation group has anywhere near enough influence to rescue endangered game birds, especially if they're a delicacy. For the average consumer in the open market, they wouldn't be able to tell this quail apart from another more common quail (or other poultry for that matter). Dinner's Dinner.
 
Ugh, I hate what humans do to animals like that. It may be gone, maybe not, but its not right what happened, but try telling those people that.

This stinks as Raptor said.
 
Every time a thread about an extinct animal is made, people suddenly proclaim that Humans are bastards and that we should all kill ourselves.

Honestly guys, stop it.
 
If all Humans killed themselves then you can chalk another species extincted by those Stupid Human Bastards :p

Blackjack Palazzo said:
So if the crew documented the bird, why didn't THEY buy it? Unless it was like a "Oh, look what's for sale today" sort of thing and it was only recognized later...
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That's the first thing that came to my mind, their claim was that they don't believe it is really extinct... still endangered is endangered and when most go to break up illegal animal consumption like that the first thing they'd do is buy the bird before the business is reported.

I'm sure they should have been able to outbid the person who bought it, and they probably would have been reimbursed.
 
Yeah that's true, I forgot to make that point... but technically, you could try to clone it. :p
 
Animals go instinct, people are idiots, what else is new?
All species will die off eventually any how. Besides the likelihood that, that bird was the last of it's kind is rather low.
 
iPoké said:
Not like one bird saves a species.
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Maybe not, but what gives us the right to decide? Would we feel the same way if the animals had their way and started killing humans for the same reason we kill animals?

The slight exception being farm animals, as thats what they are bred for and have been for thousands of years, but wild animals arn't. I'm not a vegetarian or anything like that, but just like to be able to look outside and see the wild animals where they belong, not on our plates or backs, but roaming free... unless there is an over explosion in a species where killing one or two to save them is necessary etc...
 
Shinx3000 said:
Maybe not, but what gives us the right to decide? Would we feel the same way if the animals had their way and started killing humans for the same reason we kill animals?
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Nice job forgetting that I was talking about how all of you were looking down at those documentary people not buying the one single bird of a species that was already thought to be extinct.

They did not find a little shop stand full of these things, it was one single bird. Buying it would not have done anything other than having something we can stuff and put in a museum once it eventually dies--and maybe even a zoo animal while its still alive. So yeah, why don't you try to remember that before preaching to me and probably thinking I don't care at all about animals.

Would we feel the same way if the animals had their way and started killing humans for the same reason we kill animals?
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"Had their way"

You act as if they have a higher form of thinking that humans do that gives some of us pleasure in hunting. Animals never hunt for sport, so that leaves two options that is similar to why we kill animals: food and territory. Yeah, they do that already. You make it sound as if we should be afraid of them hmmmmm.

Shinx3000 said:
The slight exception being farm animals, as thats what they are bred for and have been for thousands of years, but wild animals arn't. I'm not a vegetarian or anything like that, but just like to be able to look outside and see the wild animals where they belong, not on our plates or backs, but roaming free... unless there is an over explosion in a species where killing one or two to save them is necessary etc...
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Now its even more strange that you get all preachy with me but then say its alright for farm animals? Because that's what they've been bred for, yet its not okay for humans to decide to hunt wild animals? It was humans that decided to domesticate these animals, and you're looking at these people as if they are cold blooded killers.

They hunted those quails for food, the same reason people domesticated animals. Its not as if Philipines is this rich country where everyone has a farm to fit your exception of farm animals--or even had that much money anyway. Your lifestyle of being able to go to a grocery store to find mass-produced drugged up poultry is not the lifestyle the entire planet shares, and the wild animals you want to go out and see are food.


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Cloning still dosn't solve anything when cloning is still a long and tedious process, and the species is still unable to reproduce itself.
 
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Nice job forgetting that I was talking about how all of you were looking down at those documentary people not buying the one single bird of a species that was already thought to be extinct.

They did not find a little shop stand full of these things, it was one single bird. Buying it would not have done anything other than having something we can stuff and put in a museum once it eventually dies--and maybe even a zoo animal while its still alive. So yeah, why don't you try to remember that before preaching to me and probably thinking I don't care at all about animals.
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I know it was one bird, but if the documetry people did buy it, at least it could have lived out the rest of its life, instead of being killed not long after it was bought.

You act as if they have a higher form of thinking that humans do that gives some of us pleasure in hunting. Animals never hunt for sport, so that leaves two options that is similar to why we kill animals: food and territory. Yeah, they do that already. You make it sound as if we should be afraid of them hmmmmm.
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Yeah, animals never hunt for sport, They hunt for food, yeah, but if one wild animal killed a human in the wild where its found, like a shark killing a human in the sea, its bad, but a lion killing a wildebeast is accepted. I know this may seem stupid but I would undertansd if the shark was somewhere it should not have been, like the middle of a town and it started eating people, but even though I don't like it and its terrible what happens, if a shark eats someone swimming in the sea, is it not the humans fault for swimming where sharks are found in the first place?

Now its even more strange that you get all preachy with me but then say its alright for farm animals? Because that's what they've been bred for, yet its not okay for humans to decide to hunt wild animals? It was humans that decided to domesticate these animals, and you're looking at these people as if they are cold blooded killers.

They hunted those quails for food, the same reason people domesticated animals. Its not as if Philipines is this rich country where everyone has a farm to fit your exception of farm animals--or even had that much money anyway. Your lifestyle of being able to go to a grocery store to find mass-produced drugged up poultry is not the lifestyle the entire planet shares, and the wild animals you want to go out and see are food.
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Sorry, I never meant to come of saying it was right to farm animals, just that it had been going on so long that these animals are not wild anymore, I am talking farm pigs, sheep and cows, not deer and other animals some places farm its acceptable now, but we should not start domesticating more animals to fill our "food desires" because I said that.

And sorry if I offended anyone, never meant to come off that way. I just like animals alot and did not mean to go overboard on anything.
 
Possbily the last of it's kind? I hope the person who ate it enjoyed it.
 
iPoké said:
They hunted those quails for food, the same reason people domesticated animals. Its not as if Philipines is this rich country where everyone has a farm to fit your exception of farm animals--or even had that much money anyway. Your lifestyle of being able to go to a grocery store to find mass-produced drugged up poultry is not the lifestyle the entire planet shares, and the wild animals you want to go out and see are food.
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And how do you know that no one in this thread is FROM the Phillipines? And how do you know that everyone in this thread has the same "lifestyle"?

Moreover, you don't have to be from a rich nation or even be rich yourself to have a farm. And hell, you don't need to have a farm to have poultry. So your morality lesson fails in far more ways than a basic readthrough indicates.
 
True, but I wouldn't berate iPoke immediately. While those are sweeping generalizations, they're not completely off base (except for the hunting bit). It depends on what you refer to 'lifestyle' being.

'Hunting' doesn't really happen there, at least not in the cities and towns I know of, but there are open markets everywhere where you can buy roasted pig and chicken on neighborhood streets and on the same token, live animals (but picking food up pre-prepared is more common than live). A good amount of people pen up their own live poultry in their own back yards (if you can even call it a yard) and will cut them up, clean them and boil it and that's about as fresh as it gets. Those that can afford to keep livestock, can; no farm necessary. Prepping the chicken (or any other animal) and cooking it from scratch is no different than preparing caught fish. This style of living is prevalent even into the lower to mid-middle class. The highest classes are far and few between, but they're distinct and normally far removed from the other classes, living in more modernized areas which are often gentrified to support their style of living.

I don't remember seeing any traditional American supermarkets with giant deli counters or stuff like that when I was over there, but there are tiny shops that do sell basic goods.
 
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I hope it tasted good....

Course how many of us would look up the type of bird before they ate it?
 
DCM said:
I hope it tasted good....

Course how many of us would look up the type of bird before they ate it?
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I have a crazy need to know what it is I'm eating. But...again...crazy.
 
GrnMarvl13 said:
I have a crazy need to know what it is I'm eating. But...again...crazy.
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Makes two of us. I need to know what the heck I'm about to start chewing on; that way I can politely refuse if it's something I may not want to partake in. (Sorry, but I'm not eating brains and eggs. And forget trying to feed me tripe.)

And I wish I could say news like this surprised me, but it really doesn't anymore. =/
 
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