Former U.S. senator John Edwards admits to Extramarital Affair.

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Just another philandering politician.
 
I was wondering when this would be posted...


Anyway, it took him long enough to admit it.
 
Amazing it seems none of the Democratic politicians (Republicans are just as bad if not worse) don't do some kind of bullshit all the time. That's fantastic news for the United States with a political class like that you wonder how everyone was brainwashed into chanting "yes we can!".
 
Ahh yes, we know these things only happen in the US, right? We all know that it was just a figment of our imaginations when Princess Diana and Prince Charles were cheating on each other, right?
 
I assume you are replying to me, although it's not exactly explicit. Firstly I never claimed it was limited to American politicians and you will never find me making such a statement and secondly Prince Charles and Diana are not politicians so that doesn't actually matter. They are simply celebrities so I am unsure why that comparison was made.
 
OH no of course not you know we people in the U.S. are a bunch of hogwash pig farmers of course. Nothing like this could possibly happen in a great place like Euroland where polictical scandals are non existant I mean take Britain for example its a bazzillion times better with Economic Problems and its own bag of Health Care problems. Of course these problems are big in the U.S. but we only imagine they exist in Britain
 
Ling Ling said:
I assume you are replying to me, although it's not exactly explicit. Firstly I never claimed it was limited to American politicians and you will never find me making such a statement and secondly Prince Charles and Diana are not politicians so that doesn't actually matter. They are simply celebrities so I am unsure why that comparison was made.
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Ahh yes, I forgot... the royal family is nothing but a group of celebrities now. Sorry for that.

Back on topic: I just find it a good thing that John Edwards was not the chosen candidate for the Democratic party right now, or McCain would more than likely had much more chance of winning the election.
 
Satoshi-kun said:
Ahh yes, I forgot... the royal family is nothing but a group of celebrities now. Sorry for that.

Back on topic: I just find it a good thing that John Edwards was not the chosen candidate for the Democratic party right now, or McCain would more than likely had much more chance of winning the election.
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Yes that is a good thing but McCain is still locked with Obama in the polls right now which is dissapointing and there is another thing you have to look at. While this is in my own experiances many of my more liberal friends have been actully thinking of voting for McCain and this to me is where I think the scale of Liberal and Prejudice comes in. Of course this wont effect everyone but it will make alot of people who usually vote Democrate vote Republican because they dont like the idea of a black man being president. For people who are wondering after reading this opinion I am a white male and currently planning to vote for Obama. Its sad but true most people are not ready for a black president.
 
While his wife was struggling with cancer?

Nice going. Real nice.
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Actually, I think that's a mitigating factor in this case. A woman with cancer isn't capable or in the mood for sex, and the poor guy is stressed out from supporting her 24/7 AND sexually frustrated at the same time. It's actually pretty common in couples where one ends up having a debilitating disease latter in the relationship.
 
hitman528 said:
Yes that is a good thing but McCain is still locked with Obama in the polls right now which is dissapointing and there is another thing you have to look at. While this is in my own experiances many of my more liberal friends have been actully thinking of voting for McCain and this to me is where I think the scale of Liberal and Prejudice comes in. Of course this wont effect everyone but it will make alot of people who usually vote Democrate vote Republican because they dont like the idea of a black man being president. For people who are wondering after reading this opinion I am a white male and currently planning to vote for Obama. Its sad but true most people are not ready for a black president.
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Unless Obama really screws-up, I more than likely will be giving him my vote as well. It is a shame when people will not vote for someone based on issues that have nothing to do with the job that they will perform, but that is human nature I guess. I have to wonder if your friends would have been more apt to vote for Hillary if she was the Democratic candidate instead of Obama. That would be interesting to know. I will say that after John Edwards' affair, Obama (even taking the prejudice of some people into mind) has more chances of winning than Edwards would have currently.

I will say this though, I think that McCain is a lot more liberal than his party is allowing him to be right now. It would be interesting to see what he would do if he were to gain the presidency.

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Actually, I think that's a mitigating factor in this case. A woman with cancer isn't capable or in the mood for sex, and the poor guy is stressed out from supporting her 24/7 AND sexually frustrated at the same time. It's actually pretty common in couples where one ends up having a debilitating disease latter in the relationship.
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You do bring up a good point. That might help explain his actions a little more, although it does not excuse them by any means. It is a shame that when confronted with this situation, he ignored the "through sickness and in health" part of his wedding vows.
 
Well even if McCain does win I still believe he cant be as bad as Bush Jr. but you never know. Speaking of McCain and liberal have you ever seen McCain's mom speak? She is very liberal which I find that funny and interesting. Also as far as your question of whether they would think differently about Hillary or not I do not know but I may ask them some time. None of them have said they are not going to vote for Obama they just seem to be taking a closer look at McCain.
 
The royal family comment was weird and pretty scary considering the fact that the country has been a democracy for quite a while. I laughed at the attempt to attack Europe in the other post and then only named issues in Britain (I doubt you know of any others), even managing to miss the fact that the economic problem in Britian and Europe stem from the American engineered credit crunch (that problem is not the fault of British government nor a problem that originates from Britain or Europe). The health service comment was hilarious the NHS is a million times better than anything in the US. Furthermore you act as if I stated that Europe had no problems whatsoever, I didn't but please quote me and prove me wrong. Enjoy the shadowboxing, which is what this is.
 
I would have kept my mouth shut on this, but I find myself keeping my mouth shut on too many things these days. My sincerest apologies for making this post a mix of political debate but it seems to be veering that way.

Ling Ling said:
Amazing it seems none of the Democratic politicians (Republicans are just as bad if not worse) don't do some kind of bullshit all the time. That's fantastic news for the United States with a political class like that you wonder how everyone was brainwashed into chanting "yes we can!".
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Before I suggest you go apply for a job at Fox News, can you explain to me what the HELL does the Edwards story has to do with the Obama campaign? "Let's paint any bad press in the Democratic Party as a weakness in Obama", anyone?

hitman528 said:
Yes that is a good thing but McCain is still locked with Obama in the polls right now which is disappointing.
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If you're not getting your news from FOX or another adjunct of the Republican Party, Obama's consistently held a lead over a McCain (although to be fair, not a big one).

CNN's "Poll of Polls"

August 1st, 2008
Obama: 47%
McCain: 44%
*3% lead*.

August 4th, 2008
Obama: 48%
McCain: 43%
*5% lead*.

August 6th, 2008 and August 8th, 2008
Obama: 46%
McCain: 41%
*5% lead*.

Source

If people are so worried about Obama not breaking 50%, how about McCain not making it out of the low 40's? But back to the topic at hand if this story translates to a drop in the polls for Obama - this nation is really full of sheep that allow pointless drivel to affect their political opinions.

With all of that said, Polls are extremely unreliable in the Summer. After the conventions and the debates we'll have a more accurate depiction of where this race is going.


hitman528 said:
While this is in my own experiences many of my more liberal friends have been actually thinking of voting for McCain and this to me is where I think the scale of Liberal and Prejudice comes in.
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I'm liberal in most sense of the word and I would never in my mind vote for a man like John McCain. This is my own personal opinion, but I see John McCain as a war happy 71-year old that's extremely out of touch the youth of America.

I'm quite surprised by how much support for McCain I've seen in #bulbagarden and BMGf in general. I guess the Internet isn't quite the bastion of Liberalism that it's made out to be. What I don't think people realize is, the John McCain of 2008 has dramatically changed from the John McCain of 2000.

To be fair I respect McCain's positions on the 2nd Amendment and Abortion (calling for a ban except in cases of rape or incest) but he's DEAD wrong on the Economy - the most important issue to myself and frankly, the rest of America.

Call me a socialist, but the money to fix and improve a society should come from the rich - they have the most of it. It's my own personal belief and opinion that I wouldn't mind giving a portion of my wealth BACK to the country that granted me the opportunity to gain it.

Does anyone else notice that if a Republican changes their position on an issue, it's a "refined position". If a Democrat does it, it's a "flip-flop".

Case in point: Offshore Drilling. John McCain v.2000 opposed it, McCain v.2008 supports it. When Barack Obama steps up and says that he's willing to COMPROMISE on drilling if it would produce a real solution, he's a flip-flopper.

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Actually, I think that's a mitigating factor in this case. A woman with cancer isn't capable or in the mood for sex, and the poor guy is stressed out from supporting her 24/7 AND sexually frustrated at the same time. It's actually pretty common in couples where one ends up having a debilitating disease latter in the relationship.
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That is not an excuse to be a cheating douche bag. "In sickness and in health", anyone? The guy campaigned for honorable causes, but he is certainly without honor.
 
I am not sure that Fox News actually has a studio in Europe or that anyone at Fox actually knows where or what Europe is, but that is a tangent we need not follow up upon. To clarify I was not smearing Obama or criticizing him or his campaign because of what Mr Edwards was doing. What I was pointing out is that the belief that Mr Obama will completely change and reshape Washington, seems ever more unlikely with the amount of scandal currently making the rounds in the US from Elliot Spitzer to Ted Stevens. There is a huge amount of corruption being uncovered so it may be slightly naive to think that Barack Obama will be able to change the whole situation in Washington, that is why I brought up the "Yes We Can!" slogan. I thought Edwards was a decent politician and he appeared to be honest and dependable, alas it appears that it isn't the case.
Why you all chose to interpret as an attack on the United States or try and twist my words so that it appears that it is Obama's fault is beyond me. Shadow Boxing with the strawman, anyone?
 
Ling Ling said:
To clarify I was not smearing Obama or criticizing him or his campaign because of what Mr. Edwards was doing. What I was pointing out is that the belief that Mr Obama will completely change and reshape Washington, seems ever more unlikely with the amount of scandal currently making the rounds in the US from Elliot Spitzer to Ted Stevens.
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I wasn't trying to pick a fight with you. Thank you for clarifying your remark. I'm willing to concede the point if you were simply drawing the connection between Politicians being able to hold sway over the Public.

I took what you said more as "Hey, look at the Obama Zombies chanting 'Yes We Can' - just a matter of time before some scandal comes out about Obama" (And before anyone mentions the Rev. Wright thing, don't bother. A candidate's religion is of no importance to me - I wouldn't care if Obama were Muslim, although it is clear he is not).

But alas, once again, I apologize if it seemed I was trying to pick a fight. I just ask that you choose your words more clearly in the future, as I will too.

Back to the topic at hand... while we're discussing infidelity in Politics, can we remember that John McCain cheated on his first wife? Bill Clinton?

By Edwards admission (as well as Elizabeth's) - he told his wife about the affair shortly after it ended so this argument is more about his honesty with the public. I'm curious to read everyone's thoughts.
 
I would agree that at least Mr Edwards confessed to her after it happened. I personally find that a better option than Mrs Edwards reading about the affair in the papers at a later date. While the time was undoubtedly inopportune I must admit that I can understand where is coming from (not saying it's justified but at least understandable to some degree).

On Barack Obama well actually Rev. Wright is a good point, even if we aren't looking at the religious aspect and to my knowledge he also had dealing with a property dealer and campaignfunder called Antoin "Tony" Rezko, while this guy was under investigation and they stayed silent about the hefty campaign contributions he made. Neither of those incidents are really too serious but it is all a bit strange for a candidate, who prides himself on superior moral judgement (the reason he gave for not voting for the Iraq war). But as I said neither of these are major scandals or actually "bad/problematic" for Obama and I am not trying to smear Barack Obama over this. I definitely prefer him over McCain by a long shot, however all I was saying is that people often portray him as fantastically clean superman and pretend to think he is completely different from all other politicians.
 
About the Obama holding a clear lead. I just have to ask what was the margian of error in those polls if you know what that is? Oh and about using Britian as an example that was just an example nothing more and you said some thing about me not knowing any other countrys in Europe if youd like Id happily make you a list just ask anytime.
 
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