Contest Forretress VS Scizor

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I'm really surprised this hasn't been done yet. It's the battle of the Gen II Bug/Steel types!

I get the feeling this one will be a bit of a landslide, but let's go with it anyway.

1. Which design do you like better?

2. Which pokemon do you think represents/fits the Bug/Steel type combination best?

3. Which pokemon is more useful?

4. Which has the better prevolution?

5. In a battle between the two, who do you think would win?

6. Any other reasoning why you like/dislike either or both?

7. Overall, which is your winner?
 
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1. Scizor for its bipedal design

2. Scizor again, Forretress looks more like a walnut

3. Scizor because 130 attack + Technician + Bullet Punch + STAB = Psychic types (and Weavile) are finished; it gets worse with Sword Dance

4. Scizor, Scyther is awesome

5. Tough one, Scizor may have an edge because of access to Sword Dance, not to mention being faster

7. Starts with an S and ends with an R; yes, it's Scizor
 
1. Scizor for being a badass preying mantis clad in crimson armor.

2. Based on design alone: Bug=Scizor, Steel=Forretress. Based on combat aptitude, Scizor and Scizor.

3. Scizor by far. With the introduction of Ferrothorn, the only thing Forretress is good for is spinning stuff away.

4. Scyther the badass preying mantis with a dragon head and scythes for hands or a pine-cone with eyes? Hmmm...tough choice. Wait, wait...no it isn't. Scyther all the way.

5. The only thing Forretress can do to Scizor is blow up, and that's a crappy strategy this Gen, so Scizor though it would take a while.

6. Scizor was one of the five Pokemon that carried me through Silver version when I was younger. Furthermore, it helped immensely in the remakes and it is just a fantastic combatant in the competitive field. As for Forretress, I think Ferrothorn is a much better designed Pokemon and is much more useful in battle. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Ferrothorn got access to Rapid Spin in BW2 and completely dwarfed Forretress in every way.

7. I'm pretty sure its clear that Scizor is the winner here.
 
1. Which design do you like better?

I actually really like both of these guys. However if I had to choose I'm going to be different and pick Forretress.

2. Which pokemon do you think represents/fits the Bug/Steel type combination best?

I love the fact that Forretress is a metal bagworn cannon thingie, and I love how Scizor is an ironclad preymantis. However for me it seems like Scizor better represents the Bug type, and they're equal in their representation of the Steel type.

3. Which pokemon is more useful?

They both fill different roles. In-game I'd definately pick Scizor, as offensive Pokemon are usually the way to go. Competitively they are completely different though and it's hard to compare them.

4. Which has the better prevolution?

Scyther is probably more useful (I don't know if Pineco is good in Little Cup), however I've always prefered Scizor to Scyther. I really like Pineco though. The exploding pinecone is a pretty cool.

5. In a battle between the two, who do you think would win?

Eventually Scizor, unless Forretress for some reason has Earthquake and gets lucky or gets a crit. Scizor has roost though, so it can probably last it out. Sword Dance + Superpower/Brick Break will eventually kill off Forretress.

6. Any other reasoning why you like/dislike either or both?

I like Forretress as even though people says it sucks compared to Ferrothorn, there's obviously a reason it's still in OU. It's also got quite a weird movepool IMO, and I like how it looks. Scizor to me, on the other hand, seems pretty generic after seeing it so much in competitive battling. Sure it's great, but to me it just doesn't have that underdog factor. He's the Apollo Creed to Rocky. Sure he may be the best of the best, but he's not the one I'm rooting for in the match.

7. Overall, which is your winner?

As you can guess Forretress is my winner. Long live the Armoured Bagworn!
 
1. Which design do you like better?

Scizor. Mantis Scissorhand > Bagworm thing

2. Which pokemon do you think represents/fits the Bug/Steel type combination best?

Forretress. Just because.

3. Which pokemon is more useful?

Scizor, by a long shot.

4. Which has the better prevolution?

Scizor. Again Mantis > Bagworm

5. In a battle between the two, who do you think would win?

Scizor.

6. Any other reasoning why you like/dislike either or both?

Who the hell doesn't like Scizor?

7. Overall, which is your winner?

Mantis Scissorhand.
 
Honestly, I prefer Chevargo/Escavalier over both, but...

1. Which design do you like better?

As you can see, my nickname implies that I like Praying Mantises, so the answer here is obvious: Scizor.

2. Which pokemon do you think represents/fits the Bug/Steel type combination best?

Genesect, hands down.
Kidding, Scizor is the bug/steel.

3. Which pokemon is more useful?

Forretress, I guess?

4. Which has the better prevolution?

Pineco is ugly as hell. Scyther is one of the most badass 1st generation Pokémon.

5. In a battle between the two, who do you think would win?

Scizor.

6. Any other reasoning why you like/dislike either or both?

Nope.

7. Overall, which is your winner?

Scizor.
 
Have never used any of them, but voted for the latter, because

1. Which design do you like better?

Better design, yes.

2. Which pokemon do you think represents/fits the Bug/Steel type combination best?

Good Bug/Steel combination, and I like robot-looking bugs.

4. Which has the better prevolution?

I've used it's prevolution and it was good.

The Scizor-card in the TCG was also fantastic when it came.
 
1. Which design do you like better?
Scizor's design outclasses Forretress in my opinion, as it looks like a Ninja bug, which is all I can really describe it as. Forretress doesn't look bad at all, but compared to Scizor it's a bit more simple.

2. Which pokemon do you think represents/fits the Bug/Steel type combination best?
Scizor definitely takes greater advantage of the Bug/Steel typing being able to take a couple of hits from ineffective attacks while setting up to sweep with it's Technician/Priority Attack technique.

3. Which pokemon is more useful?
Scizor is much more versatile than Forretress in my opinion and has more combinations and strategies when comparing.

4. Which has the better prevolution?
Well of course Scizor has the better pre-evolution in my opinion being the fact that Scyther itself originally did not have any evolutions and was a stand alone powerful Pokemon back in Generation 1. Scyther can still be utilised today in many different teams and strategies.

5. In a battle between the two, who do you think would win?
Scizor would win hands down no question.

6. Any other reasoning why you like/dislike either or both?
I don't dislike either of them and think they are both great Pokemon in their respective roles.

7. Overall, which is your winner?
With all of the above said Scizor passes as the winner with flying colours for me and I think many could see why.
 
1. Which design do you like better?
Scizor, a giant big with awesome pinchers.

2. Which pokemon do you think represents/fits the Bug/Steel type combination best?
Forretress, due to looking more defensive, which is what steel types are known for,

3. Which pokemon is more useful?
Scizor, the other takes took long to KO opponents.

4. Which has the better prevolution?
Scizor, as the pre looks awesome.

5. In a battle between the two, who do you think would win?
Scizor, would destroy Forretress

6. Any other reasoning why you like/dislike either or both?
Forretrees has a weird design

7. Overall, which is your winner?
Scizor
 
I'll be the wierd one who votes for the defensive bug, just prefer forretress a little more to scizor. Now honestly, I know that forretress couldn't ever hope to touch scizor in battle, but hey, at least he can set up some spikes on him or something. Course I'm not saying scizors bad, great scout, awesome typing, technician bullet punch things like that. Just saying I prefer forretress.
 
1. Which design do you like better?
Going to be different and say Forretress, just pretty cool.

2. Which pokemon do you think represents/fits the Bug/Steel type combination best?
Scizor, as it pretty much looks like a metal bug.

3. Which pokemon is more useful?
Hard one, Forretress is great for all it's entry hazards and rapid spin. But Scizor is just Scizor, great ability with Bullet Punch. Got to go with Scizor for the amount of things it checks and it's scouting ability.

4. Which has the better prevolution?
Ahh i remember headbutting all those trees for Pineco. You can't really be cooler than Scyther though.

5. In a battle between the two, who do you think would win?
Scizor, as Forretress has very little to hit it with.

6. Any other reasoning why you like/dislike either or both?
Forretress just has that Rapid Spin. & To have a Scizor was like the coolest thing ever when i was young.

7. Overall, which is your winner?
It's a hard one, but although I love Forretress, i feel that Scizor is the best overall.
 
1. Which design do you like better?
I prefer Scizor's because of it's scissor look and the fact I really liked it in the anime.

2. Which pokemon do you think represents/fits the Bug/Steel type combination best?
I don't know how to answer that....wah?

3. Which pokemon is more useful?
Um...wah? Scizor is an offensive Pokemon and Forretress is an defensive wall support Pokemon. I don't see how we can compare how useful they are, they're both very good in their own rights.

4. Which has the better prevolution?
Um....Scyther was a standalone Pokemon in Kanto, of course it has the better stats and stuff compared to Pineco who came packaged with his evo.

5. In a battle between the two, who do you think would win?
The heck?....Forretress is a support defensive Pokemon, it has no business battling. Of course Scizor would win, but at the same time it would be wasting time fighting a defensive Pokemon who will set up Spikes, Toxic Spikes, and Stealth Rock on it and might strip away some of it's HP with a few of it's attacks.

6. Any other reasoning why you like/dislike either or both?
I don't dislike either of them.

7. Overall, which is your winner?
Neither, it makes zero sense to compare these two in the same role.
 
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1. Which design do you like better?
I prefer Scizor's because of it's scissor look and the fact I really liked it in the anime.

2. Which pokemon do you think represents/fits the Bug/Steel type combination best?
I don't know how to answer that....wah?

3. Which pokemon is more useful?
Um...wah? Scizor is an offensive Pokemon and Forretress is an defensive wall support Pokemon. I don't see how we can compare how useful they are, they're both very good in their own rights.

4. Which has the better prevolution?
Um....Scyther was a standalone Pokemon in Kanto, of course it has the better stats and stuff compared to Pineco who came packaged with his evo.

5. In a battle between the two, who do you think would win?
The heck?....Forretress is a support defensive Pokemon, it has no business battling. Of course Scizor would win, but at the same time it would be wasting time fighting a defensive Pokemon who will set up Spikes, Toxic Spikes, and Stealth Rock on it and might strip away some of it's HP with a few of it's attacks.

6. Any other reasoning why you like/dislike either or both?
I don't dislike either of them.

7. Overall, which is your winner?
Neither, it makes zero sense to compare these two in the same role.
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Well, the comparison is due to how these two came out during the same generation, with the same typing... Besides, you can judge them based other aspects as well, such as overall usefullness or things like that.
 
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I don't think you understand the purpose of the Contest Hall. Go ahead and feel free to browse the contest hall index and notice how many match-ups there "don't make sense"; making sense is not a requirement for a contest, since any pokemon can be pit against another for whatever reason is deemed fit by the creator. It's not about comparing pokemon that share roles (although that can be a specific reason why some contests are created). Also, this is not specifically about competitive battling either. Some people who vote and cast their opinion on these polls/contests, just use them in-game, and forgive me for speaking for them, but I don't think anyone uses Spikes, Toxic Spikes, etc, in-game. This isn't the battle center. Competitve battling isn't the be all and end all. And to add, preferring Scyther over Pineco need not be stat-related, as some people do not care about stats, they may prefer Pineco's design etc.

Also, I suggest reading more carefully in future, as it was never actually suggested that these two are being compared "in the same role". The points given to discuss are just to give other posters some ideas as to why you chose the choice you did and to stop people feeding the need to post pointless posts such as "I voted for Scizor" or "SCIZOR DA BEST!11!!".
 
1. Which design do you like better? Scizor

2. Which pokemon do you think represents/fits the Bug/Steel type combination best? Scizor

3. Which pokemon is more useful? Scizor

4. Which has the better prevolution? Scizor

5. In a battle between the two, who do you think would win? Scizor

6. Any other reasoning why you like/dislike either or both? I like Scizor best, but Forretress is okay.

7. Overall, which is your winner? Scizor
 
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