FPS fans ruining the game experience?

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True. NoA can't handle them, and all they want are good graphical games. Due to that, RPG wanting in North America has decreased. I believe so, as we did not get the Operation Rainfall games, MOTHER 3, and maybe a few others. What do you think?

BTW, FEEL OUR PAIN, EUROPE AND JAPAN!
 
Who said RPGs don't have to have good graphics?

Mother 3 was canned due to copyright reasons (and percieved lack of demand), Operation Rainfall depends on sales, and there are still plenty of RPG releases by smaller devs and licensors (Atlus, xseed).

Also, why does everyone seemingly blame the death of gaming on FPSes?
 
Gligar13 said:
Who said RPGs don't have to have good graphics?

Mother 3 was canned due to copyright reasons (and percieved lack of demand), Operation Rainfall depends on sales, and there are still plenty of RPG releases by smaller devs and licensors (Atlus, xseed).

Also, why does everyone seemingly blame the death of gaming on FPSes?
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Do not know. :p And on America. By the way, yes, Mother 3 was for that, I am just SAYING that it MAY have been FPSs, and Op. Rainfall, well, no chance of those games. I still am unhappy at them for no Xenoblade. (LOL, I was not interested, anyways.) Just FPSes are most popular in America, and....well....yeah. It's least popular in Japan. However, due to the overload of that, I think that Nintendo's American market is dying.
 
No.

Whats wrong about wanting good graphics?

Answer this question please @GiantZek
 
Well a good reason for Project Rainfall not making into the U.S market is because the Wii is close to the end of its lifespan, and a new IP can't sell well and become popular to the public if that situation happens. If anything, FPS games are suffering from the lack of innovation, which is how Valve's games are doing, as they try copy the same concept. TF2 still kicks CoD's arse anyday.
 
Jax said:
No.

Whats wrong about wanting good graphics?

Answer this question please @GiantZek
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Oh....I mean that you can be happy with good graphics, just that the FPS fans want more FPS. Not that good graphics are bad. Besides, everyone(well almost everyone)has a HD TV or 3D TV. But the FPS fans want blood and gore, and stuff like that.
 
GiantZek said:
Oh....I mean that you can be happy with good graphics, just that the FPS fans want more FPS. Not that good graphics are bad. Besides, everyone(well almost everyone)has a HD TV or 3D TV. But the FPS fans want blood and gore, and stuff like that.
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Well that makes sense.

RPG fans want more RPG

Puzzle fans want more puzzle

Portal fans want more Portal

So it wouldn't it be natural FPS fans want more FPS?

I'm just trying to make you think from a different view point.
 
Ghetsis-Dennis said:
Well a good reason for Project Rainfall not making into the U.S market is because the Wii is close to the end of its lifespan, and a new IP can't sell well and become popular to the public if that situation happens. If anything, FPS games are suffering from the lack of innovation, which is how Valve's games are doing, as they try copy the same concept. TF2 still kicks CoD's arse anyday.
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Yes, as COD, as I heard, every game is the same thing. A shooter with new stuff. Lots of other shooters are out there. (ex: Garry's Mod, Grand Theft Auto)But CoD is the same thing, every game. Though I only played a bit of CoD:Modern Warfare, well, that is what I heard. (Oh yeah, BMGf, sorry for double-post, but I used my iPad, so I can not copy and paste.
 
I don't see how FPS is ruining gaming.

RPGs are still very popular in NA/Europe and there are lots of people like me who both enjoy FPS and RPGs.

Also not every FPS is just the same as the last with some new graphics. Just look at Halo ODST to Halo Reach. Both of the games have very differenet feel from each other and I found that reach was completely different from ODST in many ways besides for graphics and felt like a whole new experience.

Also one thing I do find when someone brings up that FPSs are ruining videogames is that someone has more then likely never fully played a FPS before.
 
Cyber Jet said:
Also one thing I do find when someone brings up that FPSs are ruining videogames is that someone has more then likely never fully played a FPS before.
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Moviebob/Game Overthinker covered the issue of FPS games in the gaming community, along with Smosh's video regarding them.
 
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GiantZek said:
Yes, as COD, as I heard, every game is the same thing. A shooter with new stuff. Lots of other shooters are out there. (ex: Garry's Mod, Grand Theft Auto)But CoD is the same thing, every game. Though I only played a bit of CoD:Modern Warfare, well, that is what I heard. (Oh yeah, BMGf, sorry for double-post, but I used my iPad, so I can not copy and paste.
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I've seen RPGs where they take last years, add new features, and call it a new game. Every game series is like that.
 
You know, there was a point when people claimed Pokémon was ruining gaming, and for similar reasons. Just throwing that out there...
 
Its easy to blame FPS gamers isn't it? The hate they get is unbelievable. While some of it is justified because some of them act the same way other gamers act towards them.

For most 'mature' RPG fans, FPS gamers are bunch of kids who only care about graphics and don't care about the supposedly 'shitty' gameplay that FPS games have.

Of course its the other way rounf too. Most FPS gamers think RPG fans are bunch of basement dwelling weeaboos who like all think that games today are all crap and a true gamer only plays RPGs (JRPGs in particular)

So please stop with the hate.
 
It's not just first person shooters, it's the American video game industry as a whole. Basically, just about every other American produced video game is aither an FPS, a waggle filled casual fest, or a liscensed game based on a movie, presumably because most of the American video game companies believe that every gamer in America is an adult male who likes lots and lots of blood, gore, and guns (an obvious lie), it's ridiculous, which is why a lot of people prefer Japanese produced games over American produced games.

The reason a lot of people like Team Fortress 2 (including me), is because it has a lot of variety, and a large amount of replay value (something most FPS games lack). And no matter what the situation, it is STILL better than Call of Duty (or as I like to call it, "Call of Doody"), of course, just about ANY Valve game counts as being good.

To put it simply: First person shooters need more variety.
 
The problem I find, is that most FPS games are too similar. I was so annoyed when I got GoldenEye for the Wii, and instead of finding a remake of an awesome game, I found a Call of Duty clone (for example, unless we're on Classic Conflict, we can't play as Bond characters on Wi-Fi - teh heck?!).

Gligar13 said:
I've seen RPGs where they take last years, add new features, and call it a new game. Every game series is like that.
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Pokémon in a nutshell? xD
 
Not every body likes the slow pace of chess, while not every body likes the action in football. Similarly, every person has a choice when it comes to video games. So, if more people prefer a genre over another, whats wrong in that?

I see a hell lot of people saying that "whats there in graphics?" Well, I'll say plenty. We watch the screen and play right?
So, if watching becomes more pleasurable, whats wrong with that?

Seriously, wherever I go, I see people criticizing the other genres of video games.
 
Well, I guess if you like a genre, you'd notice more of the differences. Like a pokémon fan would notice differences in pokémon (pokémon is after all a very repetitive series) a FPS fan would notice more differences between FPS games.

However, I'm sick and tired of general fanbase who think their games are superior. One thing is if people make judgments on other games without actually playing them, but another is disregarding other people's opinion completely just because they disagree. This is so blatantly obvious in some internet sub-cultures, that if you like CoD, then you're branded with a "I like stupid games"-remark. So what if kids prefer CoD? It's their fucking opinion! Saying their opinion is invalid just because you (and many others) think games like Zelda is better just makes you look like a big douche. I used Zelda as an obvious example, because that's what I've seen this attitude, both online and offline. This of course doesn't just apply to Zelda, or Mario or Pokémon for that matter, it seems to me that there's a general notion towards "if you didn't play game x, your opinion is invalid". Not that their opinion that game x is the best is invalid, they could think Street Cleaning Simulation is gaming nirvana for all I care (then again, a lot of people do think that...), but shouting out your opinion makes you seem like a big douche, at least to me. Either that, or just being obvious trolls.

If anything, it's nostalgia that kills gaming today, certainly not FPS. I don't like nostalgia because it suffocates actual innovation in the gaming industry. I'm not a big fan of FPS in general, but I've played some, it's just that I find other genres more interesting, especially RPG, racing games and RTS. (also, I'm not very much a multiplayer person either...).
 
Masterge77 said:
It's not just first person shooters, it's the American video game industry as a whole. Basically, just about every other American produced video game is aither an FPS, a waggle filled casual fest, or a liscensed game based on a movie, presumably because most of the American video game companies believe that every gamer in America is an adult male who likes lots and lots of blood, gore, and guns (an obvious lie), it's ridiculous, which is why a lot of people prefer Japanese produced games over American produced games.
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The lack of research in your post is unbelievable. :|

Not every American game is a FPS or a licensed game. The Western World is responsible for an entire genre (Real Time Strategy), popularised the Wide Open Sandbox games (Like GTA) as well as Racing Sims (NFS, Gran Turismo, etc) Sports Games (FIFA, etc.) While FPS games are a little too common, its only because there is demand for them. They sell because they are good. Calling Call of Duty insulting names is not cool. You just make yourself look like an idiot.

FPS games lack replay value? I don't know how you could say that. The vast online community for those games exists solely because they have high replay value. Otherwise people would have gotten bored and abandoned the game a long time back.

I hate the fact that when people bash Japanese made games, they are nothing more than an immature kid who only cares for graphics and fails to appreciate 'true' games yet they are 'allowed' to bash any non-japanese game while still coming off as the victim.
 
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